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Old August 20, 2007, 01:30 PM   #1
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My Eyes! My Eyes!

I can't freaking see and there is nothing anyone can do about it. As I stare into a scope, the reticle goes in and out of focus...quite frankly, I am speed shooting now to rest my eyes, ie position, sight, fire snap snap.

I am thinking of ditching my Leupold M3 3.5-10x40 TMR FFA and biting the bullet for a S&B or similar in the hopes that this will make it better for me. Thats delays the suppressor I am yearning for so it's a decsion not to be taken lightly.

I hjave also been looking at Nightforce (again) and US Optics...any thoughts between any of those, ie S&B, US Optics and Nightforce vis a vis Leupold in connection with brightness, clarity

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Old August 20, 2007, 01:41 PM   #2
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When you first look thru the scope are the cross hairs perfectly clear? It sounds like the scope is out of focus. Try glancing thru the scope and adjust the diopter until the hairs are crystal clear. Then adjust the focus if it has one. Otherwise, quit looking in the scope thru the bottom of the bottle. That darn alcohol will blur the eyes every time.
Yes, personal experience that I got over.
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Old August 20, 2007, 02:01 PM   #3
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When you first look thru the scope are the cross hairs perfectly clear?
Of course...I focus carefully........its just that MY focus doesnt last...

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Old August 20, 2007, 02:19 PM   #4
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WA, if the scope isn't adjusted correctly your eyes, as you get older, will hunt for the correct focus. That's why it comes and goes. My little bro had the same issue until I got his scopes adjusted correctly. Another issue may be sinus. If you have sinus allergies that can also be an issue. Might want to have someone with great vision look thru your scopes for focus before changing anything.
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Old August 20, 2007, 02:58 PM   #5
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First decide if you want FFP or SFP reticles. If FFP then decide whether you want all the custom options available with USO or if you prefer the features on the S&B. Optical and build quality is pretty much a wash.
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Old August 20, 2007, 03:03 PM   #6
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Focus the crosshairs in the sky, with the rear ocular. Then you
can start playing with the focus (side focus) and targeting..

Do you think first focal plain is a help or hindrance ??

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Old August 20, 2007, 03:06 PM   #7
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Regarding your location, could it be possible that you are suffering from snow blindness?
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Old August 20, 2007, 03:15 PM   #8
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Tom brings some food for thought,
With the magnetic field being what it is way up there
You might look into this my friend
http://www.zapatopi.net/afdb/build.html

Good luck
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Old August 20, 2007, 03:25 PM   #9
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Great suggestion, tater! I sent the link to some of my friends. But should you put it inside or on the outside of a kevlar combat helmet?
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Old August 20, 2007, 03:28 PM   #10
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Another issue may be sinus
hmmmmm....Mine are destroyed due to a bug I picked up in Venezuela years ago. My balance is shot too and I get sinus headaches

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Do you think first focal plain is a help or hindrance ??
I dont think it makes much of a difference, I try to shoot just 4-6x anyway

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Old August 20, 2007, 06:27 PM   #11
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Seen an optometrist lately? Vision can be corrected/adjusted unless chemicals are involved.
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Old August 20, 2007, 06:31 PM   #12
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Seen an optometrist lately? Vision can be corrected/adjusted unless chemicals are involved
Every year....and no chems until after shooting

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Old August 20, 2007, 07:25 PM   #13
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You are definitely a candidate for laser or lens replacement surgery. I did it two years ago at the age of 61 and the results are miraculous!!
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Old August 20, 2007, 07:26 PM   #14
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I have too much astigmatism for Lasix

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Old August 20, 2007, 07:42 PM   #15
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Just out of curiosity Wild, do you see snow snakes? I've heard of them.
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Old August 20, 2007, 08:03 PM   #16
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I don't see anything

Seriously, you know how they talk about condition red and white and yellow and suchlike? Well I am in condition fog

This eyeball crap is annoying me. Its killing my groups.

Maybe I was just having a bad day

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Old August 20, 2007, 08:19 PM   #17
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blind,,,,,,,Not

Chill out! Your not blind! I am blind. I can shoot open sights, And a Scope. You just need to do the 5 second rule. Let your eyes adjust!

You are able to knock down a Elk at 250 yards! You got the noids, over fuzzy sight frame. Take your time . Slow down and I bet you do better! Lay of the Coffee!


Just take your time! One Shot , One Kill...
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Old August 20, 2007, 08:36 PM   #18
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Lay of the Coffee!
Hmmm...two 4 shot mochas didnt help huh

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Old August 20, 2007, 09:02 PM   #19
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I've heard if you touch yourself too often you can go blind. Maybe that's it.

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Old August 20, 2007, 11:41 PM   #20
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The thing is, you are older, so you have to be patient.
Lenses get old and stiff as we age.
If you are doing paperwork, then look thru a scope...
the sight will be different than if you look at the horizon for 15 minutes and look thru a scope.
Our eyes need time to adjust.

You just need to have a "sight-setup" routine.

Relax and watch the wind in the trees a hundred yards away.
Then look thru your scope.
If you are still having problems, it is because the scope is slightly out of focus and your eyes are trying to adjust as if you were reading a book.
Tweak your focus a tad, and ensure the parallax is OK.
Look of to the trees again for a few and try again.
Eventually, you will find your true focus for that scope and not need to worry about it again.
You will only need to observe your surroundings for a minute or two before you make a shot at the range or hunting.

Most of us do that already just arriving at the location.
But at a young age, we don't recognize what our subconscious is doing.

Its subliminal at young ages because its so natuaral, easy and fast.
As we age, it is harder/slower to adjust, we lose patience and fail to understand.
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Old August 21, 2007, 12:10 AM   #21
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two 4 shot mochas didnt help huh
Yikes. Lay off the beans and your groups will improve, foggy vision or no.

You may as well start chewing coca leaf, it's got to make you less spazmoidal than eight shots of expresso.
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Old August 21, 2007, 03:38 AM   #22
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Find an optometrist thats also a shooter.

Watch your caffine intake.
Exersize more(?)

I've been using Lutine and Billberry vitamine caps. The British in WWII gave it to their fighter pilots to improve distance and night vision. Two years ago my eyes actually got better than the previous eye exam. I don't think it was the good looking optometrist that scooted up to me and said "Look right here". For me its been downhill since sixth grade
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Old August 21, 2007, 07:19 AM   #23
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I don't see how changing brands of scope will help a physical problem with focusing your eyes. The reticle and target focus/parallax have to be RIGHT. I was ready to trash my Leupold and spring for a Nightforce but gave it one last try and [i]carefully[/b] focused the eyepiece on the range instead of at home. That helped a lot, to the point of saving $1100.
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Old August 21, 2007, 07:24 AM   #24
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Dang Tri focals dont help either *mumble mumble shuffle around at 4:30 am scratchin and looking at the gorgeous form of the the 7.62 nagant load I made*

Saving dollars is good. No coffee. Rest night before. Refocus.

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Old August 21, 2007, 07:27 AM   #25
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You need to see an Opthamologist now, not an Optomitrist.
I just had new lenses installed in both eyes within the last month by an Opthamologist, and, it's like getting new eyes.
What the guys said above about the reticle moving in and out of focus is right on. A different scope won't fix your eye problems. Your eye problem can be solved, but not by an Optomitrist.

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