What do you feel is the best CCW Semi

Mr.XD9mm · September 8, 2007, 03:15 PM

I am leaning toward the Kahr but then again thinking of Sig or possibly HK.
What are your thoughts?
Ideally I generally wear jeans and like the idea of slimline of the Kahrs practical use of just sliding in the pocket, what do you feel is the best for this purpose?

kristop64089 · September 8, 2007, 03:35 PM

I handled a Kahr CW40 last week, really liked the size and feel(especially the grip). Only thing I did not like was, it sounded like I was un-zipping the slide when I racked it.

This also happened with the pm40 in the shop.

FWIW It may be a harmless nothing, but I have quite a few guns from different makes, and none of them sound like that.

Silentarmy · September 8, 2007, 05:16 PM

Find a range that will rent you the Kahr and fire it before buying. Never a More violent flipping S.O.B. on the green earth! They are so small and cute and a great gun but if you can't shoot it, you can't train with it! I have a HK USP .45 Compact and I like it but I do not carry it either. I carry a Glock 36 or 27 depending on the day.

ActivShootr · September 8, 2007, 05:35 PM

Ed Brown Kobra Karry

michael t · September 8, 2007, 05:43 PM

Colt Defender or the new Agent. Then a Commander size pistol.

pogo2 · September 8, 2007, 07:25 PM

For small semiauto CCW guns, my favorite two are a Kahr MK9 and a Colt Defender. Both of these conceal very well and are similar in some respects, having 3 inch barrels, slide widths of 0.90 inches, and single stack magazines. The Kahr conceals the easiest, of course, since it has a "2 finger" grip and a 6 round magazine. The Colt will take 3 fingers on the grip and has a 7 round Wilson magazine.

When I can't carry something larger I use one of these.

Diesel1 · September 8, 2007, 07:49 PM

I'll throw in a vote for the Glock 19. Small and concealable, high capacity and
stone reliable.

Rinspeed · September 8, 2007, 08:00 PM

For me the Sig 239 is the perfect pistol for CCW. I had a USP compact but traded for a full size USP just because the 239 concealed so much better in the warmer months. The 239 is very accurate for it's size and has been 100% reliable.

turbojohn · September 8, 2007, 08:03 PM

The 380 ppks aren't bad, but a bit heavy and big. I like my .32-seecamp...as far as size and punch it's not bad. I have the Bobcat too which is the same size as the seecamp but has a slightly longer grip which I like. Been trying to get a finger extender for the seecamp's grip, but that's like pulling hen's teeth.The seecamp grip is the same length as the grip on my 38 derringer, so it is fairly short.

Trapper L · September 8, 2007, 08:35 PM

The best CCW- Smith and Wesson Model 4516. Ask any LEO. They are built like a tank, shoot great, incredibly reliable, and have a seven round mag in a compact package.
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms...ls/SW_4516.htm

You may disagree but this is one auto that has proven it's worth in the trenchs, not in the gun rags.

CaleeforniaKid · September 8, 2007, 08:45 PM

I'm going to pick up the new Walther PPS just as soon as it is approved in CA. From what I've read from other users, it's definitely worth consideration.

PSP · September 8, 2007, 08:50 PM

On my personal all time hit list:

HK P7
HK P2000SK
Sig P232
Seecamp

Honorable Mention:

Walther P99c
Beretta 84/85
Walther PPK
Steel Kahrs

Officer's Match · September 8, 2007, 08:54 PM

twentythree.

hoytinak · September 9, 2007, 02:51 AM

My main carry guns depends on dress and mood:
1) HK P7 PSP
2) Ruger SP101
3) HK P2000SK
4) Kel-Tec PF9

Ocraknife · September 9, 2007, 03:24 AM

The Kel-Tec PF9 is a very good choice. 7+1 capacity, very slim and around $300. The trigger is much better than the P3AT that I had and the recoil is much more tolerable. I have a G19 but there is no comparison between the it and the PF9 as far as concealability is concerned.

Manedwolf · September 9, 2007, 03:29 AM

My choice:

20oz, thin, flawlessly reliable, accurate. And .45 ACP. 6+1 as the 745, 10+1 as the 145, which is thicker in the grip.

Hold it up next to a PF-9...they're pretty close in size!!!

cabbynate · September 9, 2007, 03:35 AM

I think the Taurus PT111 Millennium Pro Pistol in 9mm is not a bad choice. It shoots well and priced right. I also keep these little gems around just in case......

Ocraknife · September 9, 2007, 03:35 AM

Hmmm, that one looks intriguing. How much does the 745 cost?

cabbynate · September 9, 2007, 03:44 AM

Here in Las Vegas about $369.00.

Officer's Match · September 9, 2007, 08:58 AM

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/11873
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/48999
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/48997

chris in va · September 9, 2007, 11:06 AM

I want an HK PSP in a bad way. Someday, someday.

olretiredgunney · September 9, 2007, 12:29 PM

Little,light,accurate and 40 cal.Dont know anything else you could ask for--------------------except a 45

!

obiwan1 · September 9, 2007, 03:29 PM

H&K p2000 or Kahr K40. Either will handle 99% of your needs.

Alnamvet · September 10, 2007, 04:36 PM

Glock 39. Now, if you can live with a revolver, nothing beats a S&W 642 in the pocket.

P97 · September 10, 2007, 04:58 PM

The best for me is a Ruger KP97DC.

September 8, 2007, 03:15 PM	#1
Mr.XD9mm Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2005 Posts: 199	What do you feel is the best CCW Semi I am leaning toward the Kahr but then again thinking of Sig or possibly HK. What are your thoughts? Ideally I generally wear jeans and like the idea of slimline of the Kahrs practical use of just sliding in the pocket, what do you feel is the best for this purpose?

September 8, 2007, 05:16 PM	#3
Silentarmy Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2007 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 355	Find a range that will rent you the Kahr and fire it before buying. Never a More violent flipping S.O.B. on the green earth! They are so small and cute and a great gun but if you can't shoot it, you can't train with it! I have a HK USP .45 Compact and I like it but I do not carry it either. I carry a Glock 36 or 27 depending on the day. __________________ "No one will Ever buy that PLASTIC gun!" Steve Gallenson, Early 1980's "Those Who live by the sword get Shot by those of us who don't" "What we learn from History is that we do not learn from History!"

September 8, 2007, 05:43 PM	#5
michael t Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2004 Location: Out back Ky Posts: 4,044	Colt Defender or the new Agent. Then a Commander size pistol. __________________ Certified Armed Infidel Colt Defender ,Colt Mustang ,Dan Wesson CBOB, PPK/S, American Classic 1911,Bersa Thunder 380 http://bersachat.comHome of Bersa http://www.metroarms1911forum.com

September 8, 2007, 07:25 PM	#6
pogo2 Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Southwest Posts: 879	My favorite two... For small semiauto CCW guns, my favorite two are a Kahr MK9 and a Colt Defender. Both of these conceal very well and are similar in some respects, having 3 inch barrels, slide widths of 0.90 inches, and single stack magazines. The Kahr conceals the easiest, of course, since it has a "2 finger" grip and a 6 round magazine. The Colt will take 3 fingers on the grip and has a 7 round Wilson magazine. When I can't carry something larger I use one of these.

September 8, 2007, 07:49 PM	#7
Diesel1 Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: NH Live Free or Die Posts: 297	I'll throw in a vote for the Glock 19. Small and concealable, high capacity and stone reliable. __________________ "NRA members are burdened with supporting and defending the rights of about 95% of America's gun owners" http://www.savetheguns.com/ Anti gun Democrats are not the problem, the laziness and apathy of the common gun owner is.

September 8, 2007, 05:35 PM	#4
ActivShootr Senior Member Join Date: August 15, 2007 Posts: 1,040	Ed Brown Kobra Karry

September 8, 2007, 08:00 PM	#8
Rinspeed Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2000 Posts: 1,505	For me the Sig 239 is the perfect pistol for CCW. I had a USP compact but traded for a full size USP just because the 239 concealed so much better in the warmer months. The 239 is very accurate for it's size and has been 100% reliable.

September 8, 2007, 08:03 PM	#9
turbojohn Member Join Date: September 1, 2007 Posts: 50	The 380 ppks aren't bad, but a bit heavy and big. I like my .32-seecamp...as far as size and punch it's not bad. I have the Bobcat too which is the same size as the seecamp but has a slightly longer grip which I like. Been trying to get a finger extender for the seecamp's grip, but that's like pulling hen's teeth.The seecamp grip is the same length as the grip on my 38 derringer, so it is fairly short.

September 8, 2007, 08:35 PM	#10
Trapper L Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 804	The best CCW- Smith and Wesson Model 4516. Ask any LEO. They are built like a tank, shoot great, incredibly reliable, and have a seven round mag in a compact package. http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms...ls/SW_4516.htm You may disagree but this is one auto that has proven it's worth in the trenchs, not in the gun rags.

September 8, 2007, 08:45 PM	#11
CaleeforniaKid Junior Member Join Date: July 29, 2007 Location: Kern County, California Posts: 2	I'm going to pick up the new Walther PPS just as soon as it is approved in CA. From what I've read from other users, it's definitely worth consideration. __________________ Sig P226R, Sig P245, Glock 23, Bersa 380 www.sigforum.com www.defensivecarry.com www.calguns.net www.calccw.com www.thefiringline.com

September 8, 2007, 08:50 PM	#12
PSP Senior Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Location: Bowling Green Virginia Posts: 4,487	On my personal all time hit list: HK P7 HK P2000SK Sig P232 Seecamp Honorable Mention: Walther P99c Beretta 84/85 Walther PPK Steel Kahrs

September 8, 2007, 08:54 PM	#13
Officer's Match Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2007 Location: LANCASTER,OHIO Posts: 3,944	twentythree. __________________ REAL EYES REALIZE REAL LIES

September 9, 2007, 02:51 AM	#14
hoytinak Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 5,721	My main carry guns depends on dress and mood: 1) HK P7 PSP 2) Ruger SP101 3) HK P2000SK 4) Kel-Tec PF9

September 9, 2007, 03:24 AM	#15
Ocraknife Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,117	The Kel-Tec PF9 is a very good choice. 7+1 capacity, very slim and around $300. The trigger is much better than the P3AT that I had and the recoil is much more tolerable. I have a G19 but there is no comparison between the it and the PF9 as far as concealability is concerned. __________________ "The loudest sound you'll ever hear is a "bang" when you weren't expecting one." -Jimro

September 9, 2007, 03:29 AM	#16
Manedwolf Junior member Join Date: May 28, 2007 Posts: 3,266	My choice: 20oz, thin, flawlessly reliable, accurate. And .45 ACP. 6+1 as the 745, 10+1 as the 145, which is thicker in the grip. Hold it up next to a PF-9...they're pretty close in size!!!

September 9, 2007, 03:35 AM	#18
Ocraknife Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,117	Hmmm, that one looks intriguing. How much does the 745 cost? __________________ "The loudest sound you'll ever hear is a "bang" when you weren't expecting one." -Jimro

September 9, 2007, 03:44 AM	#19
cabbynate Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Las Vegas Nevada Posts: 174	Here in Las Vegas about $369.00.

September 9, 2007, 08:58 AM	#20
Officer's Match Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2007 Location: LANCASTER,OHIO Posts: 3,944	Pt745, Pt145, Pt111 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/11873 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/48999 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/48997 __________________ REAL EYES REALIZE REAL LIES

September 9, 2007, 11:06 AM	#21
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	I want an HK PSP in a bad way. Someday, someday.

September 9, 2007, 12:29 PM	#22
olretiredgunney Junior Member Join Date: March 7, 2007 Posts: 7	I carry a glock 27 with a ctc sight Little,light,accurate and 40 cal.Dont know anything else you could ask for--------------------except a 45!

September 9, 2007, 03:29 PM	#23
obiwan1 Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2002 Location: Miami, Fl. Posts: 400	H&K p2000 or Kahr K40. Either will handle 99% of your needs.

September 10, 2007, 04:36 PM	#24
Alnamvet Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2002 Location: VA Posts: 366	Concealability and Fire Power Glock 39. Now, if you can live with a revolver, nothing beats a S&W 642 in the pocket. __________________ *Do not pay attention to anything I say....I just know what I know.* *Glock...the AK-47 of pistols.*

September 10, 2007, 04:58 PM	#25
P97 Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2006 Location: Panama, Ok. Posts: 660	The best for me is a Ruger KP97DC. __________________ Visit: Early Risers Coffee Shop Happy and Safe Shooting !!!