Marble Falls Standoff

ghalleen · April 16, 2008, 11:55 AM

AR-15 rifles for the department: $1,000 each.

Training time: $1,000 each.

Picture on the front page of the paper, not using cover, and with your magazine inserted backwards: PRICELESS

bigbadbowtie · April 16, 2008, 12:01 PM

Thats funny!!!

I wonder how hard she had to push to force the clip in backwards??

Scattergun Bob · April 16, 2008, 12:09 PM

I don't think this is funny at all, I think it is very sad. It points out how very valuable the 6P principal is in police work. Lets not gang up on this officer.

Good Luck and Be Safe

hogdogs · April 16, 2008, 12:22 PM

Why not gang up on her? I see a person that is trusted to safely handle weapons to insure the safety of the public (I know that it is just an impression of safety) unable to know what end of the gun bites. My daughter won't fire a weapon until she can safely field strip it and load mags and insert them. Than we begin the safe operation of said weapon before she gets to handle it loaded.
Brent

dwatts47 · April 16, 2008, 12:59 PM

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Why not gang up on her? I see a person that is trusted to safely handle weapons to insure the safety of the public (I know that it is just an impression of safety) unable to know what end of the gun bites. My daughter won't fire a weapon until she can safely field strip it and load mags and insert them. Than we begin the safe operation of said weapon before she gets to handle it loaded

I agree %100.

If she's not trained, why is she on the force?

Bailey Boat · April 16, 2008, 01:10 PM

I have to agree, if she doesn't know how to insert a magazine how can she know how to operate the gun???? Obviously she doesn't, and that's scarey......

buzz_knox · April 16, 2008, 01:16 PM

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I have to agree, if she doesn't know how to insert a magazine how can she know how to operate the gun???? Obviously she doesn't, and that's scarey......

Or she moved so quick that she briefly lost the bubble. When this first broke, some instructors mentioned seeing this same phenomenon on the range during drills. The shooters focused on the drill and didn't realize why the gun wouldn't run.

Garand Illusion · April 16, 2008, 01:31 PM

The problem is ... she doesn't know if she's coming or going.

Scorch · April 16, 2008, 01:53 PM

She would be in a world of hurt if the bad guy was shooting back.

It looks like a staged picture for the media. Notice she is not wearing a vest, and her finger is not on the trigger. Also, her hair is not tied back. Apparently she is not ready for a fight either, or she would get scalped.

It says in the article that the man was taken to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. Maybe he almost died laughing.

Don H · April 16, 2008, 02:25 PM

Way old!

azredhawk44 · April 16, 2008, 03:30 PM

She's lucky the BG didn't know one end of an AR from the other, any better than she apparently did.

Were I a malicious bank robbing type and saw an officer with a visibly incapacitated rifle, I'd charge out and use the situation to my advantage.

Colt Delta Elite · April 16, 2008, 04:32 PM

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bigbadbowtie:
Thats funny!!!

I wonder how hard she had to push to force the clip in backwards??

What's really funny is someone pointing a finger at another, who doesn't himself know the difference between a clip and a magazine.

raimius · April 16, 2008, 05:17 PM

"The pointy end of the bullet goes AWAY from you"

How do you even get a magazine seated like that?

Matt19 · April 16, 2008, 05:42 PM

Old pic.

chris in va · April 17, 2008, 12:18 AM

That article gets circulated on here every few months.

CGSteve8718 · April 17, 2008, 12:27 AM

It's not staged, and if it were, it certainly wouldn't be in favor of the anti crowd because they think only the police and military should have guns. Then again, they most likely don't know what is wrong with the rifle in the first place.

wolfdog45 · April 17, 2008, 08:34 AM

I don't know what to say. Except my grandma knew how to insert the mag on my brothers friends AR when they came over to shoot it.
And she wanted to try it out. They didn't have to tell her how to put the mag in and this was the first time she shot an AR type rifle.

primlantah · April 17, 2008, 11:59 AM

Marble Falls is a pretty small town and im sure their PD doesnt have the money for better training and armor. With that said they should have put Austin SWAT on a helicopter en route to marble falls.

farnorthdan · April 17, 2008, 12:19 PM

Just another fine example of the numerous incompetent LEO's out there

**44 AMP** · April 17, 2008, 03:50 PM

To understand that the pointy end of the ammo goes towards the front of the gun? Like Zorro's sword, "the pointy end goes in the other fellow"!

Oh well, I guess maybe we should cut her some slack, after all, obviously she isn't "professanal enuff to handle a Glock Fou-tay"!

Scattergun Bob · April 17, 2008, 05:30 PM

Even with the change of venue this is still a sad indictment of the professional charged with our safety.

I hope that the police who come to help hogdogs and those who agree with his views on this subject, don't have the same Cavalier opinion of what ever mess you all are in. Better yet, maybe you shouldn't call the cops at all when trouble comes to your door, sounds like you all are the baddest on the block.

Good Luck & Be Safe

hogdogs · April 17, 2008, 05:36 PM

Actually I will not call the cops for help! I don't multi task real well so defense gets my attention and after the fact I can call the report takers to do their job. If that is all I can expect to come to my aid I am better off with my properly inserted magazine! Since I would be armed I also cannot risk the cops having a properly inserted mag and shooting me by mistake... NOPE I will not call nor expect them to come to my rescue! I am 25 minutes from possible aid thus I am better off on my own.
Brent

owen · April 18, 2008, 11:49 AM

mistakes happen.

people screw up all the time.

driving 100mph to a possible gun fight, shaking like a leaf, and maybe even having wet themselves will tend to cause people to make simple mistakes.

Its funny, only because no one was seriously hurt.

She deserveds the benefit of the doubt: she was there, we weren't.

VonFireball · April 18, 2008, 05:36 PM

This provided a much needed laugh today.

That must be the "reverse banana clip"...lol

Kinda reminds me of the youtube video of the cop who says "only people like me have the skills to use this" and then shoots himself with a negligent discharge.

fat old gun nut · April 18, 2008, 05:57 PM

This may be the exception to your signature about eating!!

April 16, 2008, 12:09 PM	#3
Scattergun Bob Senior Member Join Date: February 29, 2008 Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington Posts: 1,186	It is NOT funny I don't think this is funny at all, I think it is very sad. It points out how very valuable the 6P principal is in police work. Lets not gang up on this officer. Good Luck and Be Safe __________________ First, with the most, WINS! Regards, Scattergun Bob

April 16, 2008, 01:31 PM	#8
Garand Illusion Senior Member Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,278	The problem is ... she doesn't know if she's coming or going. __________________ Lots of idiots in this forum. I think they must breed here. Enjoy!

April 16, 2008, 01:53 PM	#9
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	She would be in a world of hurt if the bad guy was shooting back. It looks like a staged picture for the media. Notice she is not wearing a vest, and her finger is not on the trigger. Also, her hair is not tied back. Apparently she is not ready for a fight either, or she would get scalped. It says in the article that the man was taken to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. Maybe he almost died laughing. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

April 16, 2008, 05:42 PM	#14
Matt19 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 1999 Posts: 315	Old pic. __________________ In life, you'll have your back up against the wall many times. You might as well get used to it.-Bear Bryant.

April 17, 2008, 12:27 AM	#16
CGSteve8718 Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2007 Posts: 798	It's not staged, and if it were, it certainly wouldn't be in favor of the anti crowd because they think only the police and military should have guns. Then again, they most likely don't know what is wrong with the rifle in the first place. __________________ "You are fighting for what you can never obtain, and we defending what we mean never to part with." Thomas Paine

April 16, 2008, 12:01 PM	#2
bigbadbowtie Member Join Date: November 4, 2006 Location: Northern AL Posts: 53	Thats funny!!! I wonder how hard she had to push to force the clip in backwards??

April 16, 2008, 12:22 PM	#4
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Why not gang up on her? I see a person that is trusted to safely handle weapons to insure the safety of the public (I know that it is just an impression of safety) unable to know what end of the gun bites. My daughter won't fire a weapon until she can safely field strip it and load mags and insert them. Than we begin the safe operation of said weapon before she gets to handle it loaded. Brent

April 16, 2008, 01:10 PM	#6
Bailey Boat Junior member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: NC Posts: 365	I have to agree, if she doesn't know how to insert a magazine how can she know how to operate the gun???? Obviously she doesn't, and that's scarey......

April 16, 2008, 02:25 PM	#10
Don H Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2000 Location: SLC,Utah Posts: 2,704	Way old!

April 16, 2008, 03:30 PM	#11
azredhawk44 Junior member Join Date: September 28, 2005 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 6,465	She's lucky the BG didn't know one end of an AR from the other, any better than she apparently did. Were I a malicious bank robbing type and saw an officer with a visibly incapacitated rifle, I'd charge out and use the situation to my advantage.

April 16, 2008, 05:17 PM	#13
raimius Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2008 Posts: 2,199	"The pointy end of the bullet goes AWAY from you" How do you even get a magazine seated like that?

April 17, 2008, 12:18 AM	#15
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	That article gets circulated on here every few months.

April 17, 2008, 08:34 AM	#17
wolfdog45 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 324	I don't know what to say. Except my grandma knew how to insert the mag on my brothers friends AR when they came over to shoot it. And she wanted to try it out. They didn't have to tell her how to put the mag in and this was the first time she shot an AR type rifle. __________________ Veritas vincit. (Truth conquers) " Do what is right-help others." Leo K. Thorsness, Medal of Honor recipient.

April 17, 2008, 11:59 AM	#18
primlantah Registration in progress Join Date: November 2, 2007 Posts: 110	Marble Falls is a pretty small town and im sure their PD doesnt have the money for better training and armor. With that said they should have put Austin SWAT on a helicopter en route to marble falls.

April 17, 2008, 12:19 PM	#19
farnorthdan Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2007 Posts: 371	Just another fine example of the numerous incompetent LEO's out there __________________ Believe NONE of what you hear; HALF of what you see and ALL you believe Accuracy is king,penatration is queen but why not jack'em in the process if you can.

April 17, 2008, 03:50 PM	#20
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,820	How much training does it take? To understand that the pointy end of the ammo goes towards the front of the gun? Like Zorro's sword, "the pointy end goes in the other fellow"! Oh well, I guess maybe we should cut her some slack, after all, obviously she isn't "professanal enuff to handle a Glock Fou-tay"! __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

April 17, 2008, 05:30 PM	#21
Scattergun Bob Senior Member Join Date: February 29, 2008 Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington Posts: 1,186	I still don't think this is funny. Even with the change of venue this is still a sad indictment of the professional charged with our safety. I hope that the police who come to help hogdogs and those who agree with his views on this subject, don't have the same Cavalier opinion of what ever mess you all are in. Better yet, maybe you shouldn't call the cops at all when trouble comes to your door, sounds like you all are the baddest on the block. Good Luck & Be Safe __________________ First, with the most, WINS! Regards, Scattergun Bob

April 17, 2008, 05:36 PM	#22
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Actually I will not call the cops for help! I don't multi task real well so defense gets my attention and after the fact I can call the report takers to do their job. If that is all I can expect to come to my aid I am better off with my properly inserted magazine! Since I would be armed I also cannot risk the cops having a properly inserted mag and shooting me by mistake... NOPE I will not call nor expect them to come to my rescue! I am 25 minutes from possible aid thus I am better off on my own. Brent

April 18, 2008, 11:49 AM	#23
owen Member Join Date: September 10, 2002 Posts: 57	mistakes happen. people screw up all the time. driving 100mph to a possible gun fight, shaking like a leaf, and maybe even having wet themselves will tend to cause people to make simple mistakes. Its funny, only because no one was seriously hurt. She deserveds the benefit of the doubt: she was there, we weren't.

April 18, 2008, 05:36 PM	#24
VonFireball Senior Member Join Date: November 8, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 354	This provided a much needed laugh today. That must be the "reverse banana clip"...lol Kinda reminds me of the youtube video of the cop who says "only people like me have the skills to use this" and then shoots himself with a negligent discharge.

April 18, 2008, 05:57 PM	#25
fat old gun nut Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Posts: 244	where is Tom2 This may be the exception to your signature about eating!!