Micro Desert Eagle?

LFOD1776 · October 25, 2008, 12:22 PM

http://www.tactical-life.com/online/...-desert-eagle/

Anyone have any information on this thing?

**44 AMP** · October 25, 2008, 01:57 PM

Micro it is, but a Desert Eagle it is not. The maker can, of course, name it anything they want, but calling it a Desert Eagle is like calling a bolt action .22LR a Winchester M70.

It is a semi auto pistol, it has a slide. So does the desert eagle. other than true basics, that's as far as the resemblance goes. There is a "Baby Eagle" pistol as well, other than the maker, a slight resemblance, and the name it also has nothing in common with the Deset Eagle.

Hokie · October 25, 2008, 02:09 PM

I think I'd rather have a P-3AT (or for that price, two). Other than styling, it's not the same as the regular Desert Eagle. For that price, you'd be better-off with a Kel-Tec P-3AT, a Ruger LCP, or a J-frame or Kahr P380.

Of course, that's just my two cents. Guns can be about style, too, and the gun in your post certainly does have aggressive styling.

2cooltoolz · October 25, 2008, 05:23 PM

Well, I think it's interesting.
I'm not really a Kel-Tec fan. Don't want to start a war, just don't care for the way they feel.
I didn't jump in on the LCP because I wanted to let it "settle out" a bit in price and availability. Now I'm not sure about it's reliability. I know it's not a range gun, but I like to practice with what I carry.
I have a Seecamp .32...carry it occasionally, but don't feel confident in the .32 ACP and the Seecamp .380 is too expensive.
I carry a Kahr PM9 in a Nemesis most of the time (it's in my pocket now) but i have to cinch my belt in a notch to keep my pants up. The new P380 looks appealing, but it took Kahr a couple of years to get the PM9 right, so I'm not going to rush into the P380 either.
So I'll keep my eye on the Micro Eagle. I'm not in a hurry, I'll let you guys wring out the new entries first, but I do plan on buying some pocket .380 in the not too distant.

rogertc1 · October 25, 2008, 05:36 PM

Too bad it is not 9X19,,,instead of 9mm Kurtz

LFOD1776 · October 25, 2008, 06:33 PM

Yeah, yeah, I know the name's just marketing... but it looks really interesting to me. I have an LCP and a Semmerling, and this thing looks to be like a cross between the two!

I mean, does anyone know anything like... when it's supposed to be available? Whether or not it really uses a gas system? Things like that.

EDIT: Found some information... It's a US-made version of the Czech ZVI Kevin pistol: http://www.zvi.cz/en/products/9-mm-pistol-kevin.html

IdahoG36 · October 25, 2008, 11:58 PM

What really caught my eye was the fine print in the picture "Shown actual size". That looks to me to be smaller than any of the above listed pistols- the P3AT, LCP, S&W J frame, and Kahr P380. That is an extremely small pistol, especially chambered in .380.
I really think it is funny how Magnum Research slaps the "Desert Eagle" name on everything. I could live with the Baby Eagle, as it bore some resemblance externally, but this is ridiculous.

rogertc1 · October 26, 2008, 05:56 AM

It is really smalll
compare
http://www.smallestguns.com/

cold dead hands · October 28, 2008, 01:03 AM

I shot one and hated it.

Recoil wasn't too bad and the trigger was so-so for a DAO, but the thing was very inaccurate.

For the price they want you can buy 2 LCP's or P3AT's and carry both if you are afraid one might fail.

I am thinking of a baby Beretta at the moment. .32acp with +p comes close to .380 if you want a miniature gun.

DougP · November 1, 2008, 06:27 PM

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but the thing was very inaccurate

The first time I shot a mouse gun it shot all over the place, sometimes on the paper, sometimes not-- anyway-- after adding the finger extension and paying attention to what I'm doing, my lovely little LCP will hold a 4" group at 15 yards easy. I just got started this week with it. I know it will hold 1-2" groups at 15 yards. One hand, arm extended, and one eye closed. I don't think I could ask for any mouser to shoot any better than what mine does. I know its not a range gun, but I would bet I could hold 4" groups at 25 yards with a little practice. Oh, by the way -- mine shoots right on-- POA=POI. for sure....It does for sure have a long draw--- but it is smooth as you could ask for, but with no other safety you have to have something to protect yourself with. Long triger draw for a double action yes they all have it. That's just part of the character of the mouser.
Buy two -- then you wil not have a mouser, you'll have a rat.

- if anyone wants to get rid of theirs let me know ( remember-- I'm cheap )

rogertc1 · November 2, 2008, 12:54 AM

LFOD1776, Neat to see someone else has a Semmerling LM4 .45. Mine still NIB, matt blue with sr nr 39X.
They are not for the faint of pocket book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semmerling

http://www.gunsamerica.com/976772221...Original_9.htm

Sturmgewehre · November 2, 2008, 08:10 AM

I know it's easily one of the ugliest handguns I've ever seen.

tranks · November 2, 2008, 10:31 AM

looks like an overpriced P3AT/LCP to me too.

make it a tad bigger and chambered for .50 cal, then it would deserve the desert eagle name.

Shadi Khalil · November 2, 2008, 10:42 AM

I may not be appealing to us but it in forigen markets, where the the .380 is the largest caliber availble to civilains, that thing is an R9.

ilksurfer · November 24, 2008, 02:45 PM

That's a Kevin ZVI. How come Magnum Research can market it as if they have created I don't understand... They should have mentioned where they have cloned it or something...

Photos by Emhasuya...

http://www.zvi.cz/en/products/9-mm-pistol-kevin.html
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/zv...tol/1926421246

ilksurfer · November 24, 2008, 03:03 PM

fallschirmjager98 · November 24, 2008, 04:42 PM

It's A 9mm Browning(.380acp) 14 Oz., Gas Assisted Blow Back Action And Made In The U.s.a!!! 6 Rounds Mag. Capacity, 4.52''length 3.71''finish=nickle

Vectrexer · November 28, 2008, 03:04 PM

I have confirmation directly from Jan Gottfried at ZVI stating the KEVIN is being sold in the US by Magnum Research as the Micro Desert Eagle.

The Magnum Research site: http://www.magnumresearch.com/Micro_Eagle.asp

The ZVI Site: http://www.zvi.cz/en/products/9-mm-pistol-kevin.html

kpbeckel · February 7, 2009, 01:24 AM

anybody know where you can get a hold of an actual KEVIN and not the Eagle?

mrt949 · February 7, 2009, 07:59 AM

Looked at a eagle last week not for me .felt lihe a grendel p 12. thats my opnion .

tostada · February 7, 2009, 11:36 AM

LOL @ "The Micro Eagle features our gas assisted blowback system"

14oz and 23mm wide is actually pretty bad for a pocket gun.

The 9mm Kel-Tec PF9 is 12.7oz and 22mm wide.

The P-3AT is 8.3oz and 19.5mm wide.

ibdecent · June 1, 2009, 04:55 PM

I work for a company that makes the micro eagle, the desert eagle, the graphite barrels and several other gun parts for several other companies (ruger, weatherby, kodiak rifle works, etc.). I've been making the barrel over the last few days and the blanks come from ruger. interesting little tid bit

Bill DeShivs · June 1, 2009, 08:06 PM

The Magnum Research gun is MADE in the US. The Kevin can not be imported.

October 25, 2008, 12:22 PM	#1
LFOD1776 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 127	Micro Desert Eagle? http://www.tactical-life.com/online/...-desert-eagle/ Anyone have any information on this thing? __________________ NRA Life Member

October 25, 2008, 01:57 PM	#2
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,820	From the one picture I can tell you that... Micro it is, but a Desert Eagle it is not. The maker can, of course, name it anything they want, but calling it a Desert Eagle is like calling a bolt action .22LR a Winchester M70. It is a semi auto pistol, it has a slide. So does the desert eagle. other than true basics, that's as far as the resemblance goes. There is a "Baby Eagle" pistol as well, other than the maker, a slight resemblance, and the name it also has nothing in common with the Deset Eagle. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

October 25, 2008, 02:09 PM	#3
Hokie Member Join Date: January 21, 2008 Posts: 55	Looks like a gimmick to me I think I'd rather have a P-3AT (or for that price, two). Other than styling, it's not the same as the regular Desert Eagle. For that price, you'd be better-off with a Kel-Tec P-3AT, a Ruger LCP, or a J-frame or Kahr P380. Of course, that's just my two cents. Guns can be about style, too, and the gun in your post certainly does have aggressive styling. __________________ THR: Tribal I'm boycotting THR.org until things get sorted out, but I'm active over at THR.us. I am not a lawyer; nothing in this post should be construed as legal advice.

October 25, 2008, 05:23 PM	#4
2cooltoolz Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2007 Location: Lake Conroe, Texas Posts: 1,059	Well, I think it's interesting. I'm not really a Kel-Tec fan. Don't want to start a war, just don't care for the way they feel. I didn't jump in on the LCP because I wanted to let it "settle out" a bit in price and availability. Now I'm not sure about it's reliability. I know it's not a range gun, but I like to practice with what I carry. I have a Seecamp .32...carry it occasionally, but don't feel confident in the .32 ACP and the Seecamp .380 is too expensive. I carry a Kahr PM9 in a Nemesis most of the time (it's in my pocket now) but i have to cinch my belt in a notch to keep my pants up. The new P380 looks appealing, but it took Kahr a couple of years to get the PM9 right, so I'm not going to rush into the P380 either. So I'll keep my eye on the Micro Eagle. I'm not in a hurry, I'll let you guys wring out the new entries first, but I do plan on buying some pocket .380 in the not too distant. __________________ What me worry

October 25, 2008, 06:33 PM	#6
LFOD1776 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 127	Yeah, yeah, I know the name's just marketing... but it looks really interesting to me. I have an LCP and a Semmerling, and this thing looks to be like a cross between the two! I mean, does anyone know anything like... when it's supposed to be available? Whether or not it really uses a gas system? Things like that. EDIT: Found some information... It's a US-made version of the Czech ZVI Kevin pistol: http://www.zvi.cz/en/products/9-mm-pistol-kevin.html __________________ NRA Life Member Last edited by LFOD1776; October 25, 2008 at 07:28 PM.

October 25, 2008, 05:36 PM	#5
rogertc1 Junior member Join Date: December 17, 2004 Location: Maquoketa Posts: 1,335	Too bad it is not 9X19,,,instead of 9mm Kurtz

October 25, 2008, 11:58 PM	#7
IdahoG36 Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 2,993	What really caught my eye was the fine print in the picture "Shown actual size". That looks to me to be smaller than any of the above listed pistols- the P3AT, LCP, S&W J frame, and Kahr P380. That is an extremely small pistol, especially chambered in .380. I really think it is funny how Magnum Research slaps the "Desert Eagle" name on everything. I could live with the Baby Eagle, as it bore some resemblance externally, but this is ridiculous.

October 26, 2008, 05:56 AM	#8
rogertc1 Junior member Join Date: December 17, 2004 Location: Maquoketa Posts: 1,335	It is really smalll compare http://www.smallestguns.com/

October 28, 2008, 01:03 AM	#9
cold dead hands Junior member Join Date: November 14, 2007 Location: Arkansuck...I dream of the day I leave here. Never to return. Posts: 854	I shot one and hated it. Recoil wasn't too bad and the trigger was so-so for a DAO, but the thing was very inaccurate. For the price they want you can buy 2 LCP's or P3AT's and carry both if you are afraid one might fail. I am thinking of a baby Beretta at the moment. .32acp with +p comes close to .380 if you want a miniature gun.

November 2, 2008, 12:54 AM	#11
rogertc1 Junior member Join Date: December 17, 2004 Location: Maquoketa Posts: 1,335	LFOD1776, Neat to see someone else has a Semmerling LM4 .45. Mine still NIB, matt blue with sr nr 39X. They are not for the faint of pocket book. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semmerling http://www.gunsamerica.com/976772221...Original_9.htm Last edited by rogertc1; November 2, 2008 at 10:12 AM.

November 2, 2008, 08:10 AM	#12
Sturmgewehre Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,212	I know it's easily one of the ugliest handguns I've ever seen. __________________ Visit my YouTube channel for reviews, tests and more. Ex Mea Sententia

November 2, 2008, 10:31 AM	#13
tranks Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2008 Location: MN Posts: 272	looks like an overpriced P3AT/LCP to me too. make it a tad bigger and chambered for .50 cal, then it would deserve the desert eagle name. __________________ -Mike "Stan, what did I tell you about watching the Osbournes? It's going to make you retarded!" Stan's Mom (south park)

November 2, 2008, 10:42 AM	#14
Shadi Khalil Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 5,210	I may not be appealing to us but it in forigen markets, where the the .380 is the largest caliber availble to civilains, that thing is an R9.

November 24, 2008, 02:45 PM	#15
ilksurfer Member Join Date: March 18, 2007 Posts: 38	That's a Kevin ZVI. How come Magnum Research can market it as if they have created I don't understand... They should have mentioned where they have cloned it or something... Photos by Emhasuya... http://www.zvi.cz/en/products/9-mm-pistol-kevin.html http://video.aol.com/video-detail/zv...tol/1926421246 Last edited by ilksurfer; November 24, 2008 at 02:52 PM.

November 24, 2008, 03:03 PM	#16
ilksurfer Member Join Date: March 18, 2007 Posts: 38

November 24, 2008, 04:42 PM	#17
fallschirmjager98 Junior Member Join Date: November 23, 2008 Posts: 2	It's A 9mm Browning(.380acp) 14 Oz., Gas Assisted Blow Back Action And Made In The U.s.a!!! 6 Rounds Mag. Capacity, 4.52''length 3.71''finish=nickle

November 28, 2008, 03:04 PM	#18
Vectrexer Junior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 6	I have confirmation directly from Jan Gottfried at ZVI stating the KEVIN is being sold in the US by Magnum Research as the Micro Desert Eagle. The Magnum Research site: http://www.magnumresearch.com/Micro_Eagle.asp The ZVI Site: http://www.zvi.cz/en/products/9-mm-pistol-kevin.html

February 7, 2009, 01:24 AM	#19
kpbeckel Member Join Date: September 2, 2008 Posts: 50	anybody know where you can get a hold of an actual KEVIN and not the Eagle? __________________ "Chuck Norris never learned the Way of the Samurai....Chuck Norris IS the Way of the Samurai. "

February 7, 2009, 07:59 AM	#20
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	Looked at a eagle last week not for me .felt lihe a grendel p 12. thats my opnion . __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All

February 7, 2009, 11:36 AM	#21
tostada Member Join Date: March 7, 2007 Posts: 28	LOL @ "The Micro Eagle features our gas assisted blowback system" 14oz and 23mm wide is actually pretty bad for a pocket gun. The 9mm Kel-Tec PF9 is 12.7oz and 22mm wide. The P-3AT is 8.3oz and 19.5mm wide.

June 1, 2009, 04:55 PM	#22
ibdecent Member Join Date: June 1, 2009 Location: Brainerd MN Posts: 82	Micro Eagle I work for a company that makes the micro eagle, the desert eagle, the graphite barrels and several other gun parts for several other companies (ruger, weatherby, kodiak rifle works, etc.). I've been making the barrel over the last few days and the blanks come from ruger. interesting little tid bit

June 1, 2009, 08:06 PM	#23
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,981	The Magnum Research gun is MADE in the US. The Kevin can not be imported. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com