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View Poll Results: 2008 Best Handgun
Glock 60 13.04%
Hk 34 7.39%
Sig Saur 47 10.22%
Colt 14 3.04%
Springfield 54 11.74%
Smith & Wesson 65 14.13%
Steyr 4 0.87%
Ruger 53 11.52%
Kimber 13 2.83%
Khar 5 1.09%
Walther 14 3.04%
Taurus 16 3.48%
CZ 24 5.22%
Korth 2 0.43%
Dan Wesson 16 3.48%
Ed Wilson 6 1.30%
Browning/FN 7 1.52%
Beretta 9 1.96%
Para Ord. 5 1.09%
Les Bear 12 2.61%
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Old December 28, 2008, 06:21 AM   #76
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Korth very over rated and outdated.

In which respect is a Korth overrated, in performance, or in quality? The only revolver manufacturer close in quality is Freedom Arms/ Casull.

Can you explain in complete sentences how it is outdated?
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Old December 28, 2008, 06:32 AM   #77
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Sorry, In my opinion they are not a really attractive pistol or revolver. Not a work gun for sure. More of an oddity or collector piece. Kinda like my Semmerling but not as rare or atractive. I just see nothing to love.

http://www.korthusa.com/pistol_en.htm

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Old December 28, 2008, 08:09 AM   #78
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"Sorry, In my opinion they are not a really attractive pistol or revolver. Not a work gun for sure. More of an oddity or collector piece. Kinda like my Semmerling but not as rare or atractive. I just see nothing to love."

Rogertc1....your comment does not explain how Korth is an outdated handgun. Lets not even talk about your reference to it being over rated.
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Old December 28, 2008, 09:18 AM   #79
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Compared to my Smith & Wesson 327 Performance Center .357 Magnum snubbie revolver it is outdated looking. Compare them. Now the Korth pistol is a gun only a grandmom would like.
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Old December 28, 2008, 08:00 PM   #80
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In which respect is a Korth overrated, in performance, or in quality? The only revolver manufacturer close in quality is Freedom Arms/ Casull.
Unlike the investment cast Freedom Arms M83, the Manurhin MR73 is machined out of forgings. Unlike the Korth, it has acquitted itself internationally in constabulary service and bullseye competition. By my lights, these qualities make it a better sidearm than either of the foregoing.
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Old December 29, 2008, 02:33 AM   #81
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"Now the Korth pistol is a gun only a grandmom would like."

Very amuzing, yet lacking substance.
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Old December 29, 2008, 03:53 AM   #82
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Larvatus,

the Korth is also machined out of a forged frame. Mine has held up quite a bit while the nice .357 MR73 of a friend had one serious malfuntion due to a spring getting out of alignement. It's over twenty years but we opened the gun up and it was the trigger rreturn spring, if I remember correctly. Until that incident, I had been seriously impressed with the Manurhin.

The MR73 that is superior in ISSF is the .32, besides in its native Germany there are still as many Korths used at competitions as Manurhins. But when it comes to the top competitors, you won't see many revolvers anymore.
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Old December 29, 2008, 04:44 AM   #83
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The Korth is a very well made revolver, and I do not mean to disparage its quality of design and manufacture. The MR73 is something else: as far as I know, it is the last, and arguably the best, revolver designed, manufactured, and adopted to go in harm's way. For a variety of reasons, the Korth is not suitable for that task.

While the MR32 is well known for outshooting the finest ISSF autopistols, the MR38 is capable of equally impressive performance. Here is a test target delivered by Matra, generally regarded as the least meticulous of its makers:


As regards springs getting out of alignment, my bet would be on the hand spring, part #127 in the original design, superseded by part #159 in the current version. That said, contrary to received ideas, revolvers are much more liable to mechanical malfunction than autopistols. The most robust specimen in this regard is probably the French M1873 Chamelot-Delvigne.
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Old December 29, 2008, 09:31 AM   #84
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Larvatus,

if I ever find an MR73 for as little as I paid for my Korth, I will go for it. I am looking for one since years but it is not on top of my priority list, just something nice to have.
I doubt that I can get better results with it, or any revolver, than with my S&W 14-2.
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Old December 29, 2008, 11:06 AM   #85
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Fire power compare ..use google
"Compared to my Smith & Wesson 327 Performance Center .357 Magnum snubbie revolver it is outdated looking. " No titanium or even scantium...AND it is not a SMITH & Wesson which is the best revolvers in the world!!!
I thought the French drop and run before they even fire a gun?
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Old December 29, 2008, 11:15 AM   #86
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My next MR73 on Egun.de.
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Old December 29, 2008, 02:54 PM   #87
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Nicht schlecht! Do you have a good import FFL?
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Old December 29, 2008, 02:56 PM   #88
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I am using Simpson Ltd. So far, so good.
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Old December 31, 2008, 01:31 AM   #89
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Did some reading on Korth. Well, it is not what you call your everyday CCW. Its like H&H of handguns if there is one. H&H you dont take out on the boar hunt.
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Old December 31, 2008, 02:05 AM   #90
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My daily CCW alternates between a SIG P210-4 "Kuba" pistol, one of 57 ever made, and a slightly more common 6" Manurhin MR73 of original Alsatian manufacture. Willi Korth regarded these guns as the standards to be aspired to in designing and making his products. With only my life on the line, I generally abstain from packing the more valuable prewar S&W .357 Registered Magnum revolver and Colt Government Model National Match pistol. Nothing in excess, beginning with moderation.
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Old December 31, 2008, 06:35 AM   #91
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2008 Handgun of the Year

2008 Handgun of Year as chosen by the TFL members:

Winner is Smith & Wesson (65 votes)
Runner up is Glock (60 votes)

This is the end of this thread.

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Old January 6, 2009, 09:33 AM   #92
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opps ..too old
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