concealed carry

Hi-PointMan · April 21, 2009, 12:08 PM

I have plans on going to the Florida Keys this summer, so me and my family can go scuba diving. My question is what would be the best holster to use while underwater? I know that most people just carry scuba knives, but I want to carry my gun, in case of shark attack. Shark vs. knife, or shark vs. gun. Well I dont want the knife because sharks mouths are full of them. I would rather shoot him in the eye with a 9mm from a distance. Also what if a jelly fish tried to get us. You cant stab them becuse their tentacles are long and poisonous, so I would have to shoot them in the vitals. Any opinions on this??

Brian Pfleuger · April 21, 2009, 12:14 PM

I'm sorry my friend. Your 9mm will not work underwater.... at least not at any distance. You'll be lucky if:

1) The gun works at all
2) The ammo doesn't leak and won't go bang if the gun does work.
3) The gun doesn't blow up in your hand if it does go bang.
4) Barring 1, 2 or 3, you'll be lucky if the bullet goes 2 feet.

Tortuga12 · April 21, 2009, 12:16 PM

There are so many things wrong with the original post, I really don't know where to begin. Let's leave it at this: you don't need to be carrying a gun underwater.

In your case, I'd recommend against the knife, too. Wouldn't want you to start waving it around and cut through your regulator line.

Just do what experienced divers do: swim away!

Hi-PointMan · April 21, 2009, 12:17 PM

What if I plug the barrel with something? Or even put some tape over it so the water cant get in.

Housezealot · April 21, 2009, 12:19 PM

You joke (i assume) but what you need is called a powerhead or a bang stick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang_stick
it basicly is a spear that fires a shotshell or rifle cartridge
http://www.beco-products.com/images/...t/MVC-230X.JPG
I have never messed with them but being that I like strang firearms have always wanted one, I am not even sure what the legal status of one is.

Tortuga12 · April 21, 2009, 12:19 PM

If you plug the barrel, it will burst when you try to discharge it. Tape won't seal out 2 ATM of water pressure. There's a reason spear guns exist.

Brian Pfleuger · April 21, 2009, 12:20 PM

Listen, seriously...

It's a really bad idea, sorry, I'm trying to be nice but, really, it's bad.

It MIGHT (I don't know) be illegal.

It's definitely not safe.

Add this to the list above:

5) The concussion from an underwater shot will blow your ears out. Seriously, totally, probably permanently. You'll be deaf.

Tortuga12 · April 21, 2009, 12:23 PM

Do you even HAVE a SCUBA certification yet? 'Cause I'm pretty sure that they go over safety issues like this as part of the class. At least, they did when I did it back in '96...

Housezealot · April 21, 2009, 12:25 PM

am I the only one that thinks hipoint is joking?
you are joking, right?

Tortuga12 · April 21, 2009, 12:25 PM

Dude, look at his screen name and tag. Let's not assume anything...

beasley · April 21, 2009, 12:29 PM

LOL--good one

beasley · April 21, 2009, 12:30 PM

I meant that for Hi-Pointman. This thread is a very funny joke. Well played

Tortuga12 · April 21, 2009, 12:32 PM

Do we call this one "Chronicles of the SCUBANINJA"?

hightower · April 21, 2009, 12:43 PM

the gaitlin spear gun from ninja gaiden 2

the wasp co2 injection knife

and if all else fails

sharks are ticklish

i think that would be adequate prep for any s.h.f. scenerio for a terrorist shark attack

mnhntr · April 21, 2009, 01:07 PM

Please tell me your kidding? If you are serious, you need to do more research and gain more knowledge of firearms in general.
Answer to your question is this carry a good stainless pistol on your boat. I used to carry a stainless shotgun on my boat when i lived down there. Just in case of pirates or sharks. Yes there are pirates in the gulf. DO NOT ATTEMPT FIRING A WEAPON UNDER WATER!!!!!!!! Most are not made to function in this setting. If you are afraid of sharks carry a speargun and a dive knife. By the way i have snorkeled the keys alot and shark attacks are very rare.

cavediver27 · April 21, 2009, 01:12 PM

Only someone with a name like "Hi-PointMan" could ask a question like that

**Mal H** · April 21, 2009, 01:35 PM

I doubt that anyone is puzzled why I closed this one.

April 21, 2009, 12:08 PM	#1
Hi-PointMan Junior member Join Date: April 11, 2009 Posts: 13	concealed carry I have plans on going to the Florida Keys this summer, so me and my family can go scuba diving. My question is what would be the best holster to use while underwater? I know that most people just carry scuba knives, but I want to carry my gun, in case of shark attack. Shark vs. knife, or shark vs. gun. Well I dont want the knife because sharks mouths are full of them. I would rather shoot him in the eye with a 9mm from a distance. Also what if a jelly fish tried to get us. You cant stab them becuse their tentacles are long and poisonous, so I would have to shoot them in the vitals. Any opinions on this??

April 21, 2009, 12:14 PM	#2
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	I'm sorry my friend. Your 9mm will not work underwater.... at least not at any distance. You'll be lucky if: 1) The gun works at all 2) The ammo doesn't leak and won't go bang if the gun does work. 3) The gun doesn't blow up in your hand if it does go bang. 4) Barring 1, 2 or 3, you'll be lucky if the bullet goes 2 feet. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

April 21, 2009, 12:16 PM	#3
Tortuga12 Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2006 Posts: 211	Ummm.... There are so many things wrong with the original post, I really don't know where to begin. Let's leave it at this: you don't need to be carrying a gun underwater. In your case, I'd recommend against the knife, too. Wouldn't want you to start waving it around and cut through your regulator line. Just do what experienced divers do: swim away!

April 21, 2009, 12:20 PM	#7
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	Listen, seriously... It's a really bad idea, sorry, I'm trying to be nice but, really, it's bad. It MIGHT (I don't know) be illegal. It's definitely not safe. Add this to the list above: 5) The concussion from an underwater shot will blow your ears out. Seriously, totally, probably permanently. You'll be deaf. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

April 21, 2009, 12:23 PM	#8
Tortuga12 Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2006 Posts: 211	Curious... Do you even HAVE a SCUBA certification yet? 'Cause I'm pretty sure that they go over safety issues like this as part of the class. At least, they did when I did it back in '96...

April 21, 2009, 12:17 PM	#4
Hi-PointMan Junior member Join Date: April 11, 2009 Posts: 13	What if I plug the barrel with something? Or even put some tape over it so the water cant get in.

April 21, 2009, 12:19 PM	#5
Housezealot Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 606	You joke (i assume) but what you need is called a powerhead or a bang stick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang_stick it basicly is a spear that fires a shotshell or rifle cartridge http://www.beco-products.com/images/...t/MVC-230X.JPG I have never messed with them but being that I like strang firearms have always wanted one, I am not even sure what the legal status of one is.

April 21, 2009, 12:25 PM	#9
Housezealot Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 606	am I the only one that thinks hipoint is joking? you are joking, right?

April 21, 2009, 12:29 PM	#11
beasley Member Join Date: April 12, 2009 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 82	LOL--good one

April 21, 2009, 12:30 PM	#12
beasley Member Join Date: April 12, 2009 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 82	I meant that for Hi-Pointman. This thread is a very funny joke. Well played

April 21, 2009, 12:32 PM	#13
Tortuga12 Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2006 Posts: 211	So... Do we call this one "Chronicles of the SCUBANINJA"?

April 21, 2009, 12:43 PM	#14
hightower Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Location: eastern wa Posts: 149	the gaitlin spear gun from ninja gaiden 2 the wasp co2 injection knife and if all else fails sharks are ticklish i think that would be adequate prep for any s.h.f. scenerio for a terrorist shark attack Last edited by hightower; April 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM. Reason: ibtl

April 21, 2009, 01:07 PM	#15
mnhntr Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2008 Posts: 972	Please tell me your kidding? If you are serious, you need to do more research and gain more knowledge of firearms in general. Answer to your question is this carry a good stainless pistol on your boat. I used to carry a stainless shotgun on my boat when i lived down there. Just in case of pirates or sharks. Yes there are pirates in the gulf. DO NOT ATTEMPT FIRING A WEAPON UNDER WATER!!!!!!!! Most are not made to function in this setting. If you are afraid of sharks carry a speargun and a dive knife. By the way i have snorkeled the keys alot and shark attacks are very rare.

April 21, 2009, 01:12 PM	#16
cavediver27 Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 499	Only someone with a name like "Hi-PointMan" could ask a question like that

April 21, 2009, 01:35 PM	#17
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	I doubt that anyone is puzzled why I closed this one.