Uh, just bought an NEF Pardner Pump :-|

Coffee357 · July 15, 2009, 10:50 PM

Just bought a Pardner Pump Protector in 12 gauge. Didn't really mean to but saw a sub $200 price tag on a basic, utilitarian, copy of an 870 and before I knew it I felt my hand moving towards my wallet. I haven't fired it yet but I actually think I like the gun. Always liked a parkerized finish and the gun seems to have a shorter reach to the forearm, which I also like when cycling the action. Already ordered a Wolf 10%+ magazine spring for the gun and plan to treat it to (a lot) of oil tomorrow. ... Not sure exacty what happened or why I have this gun... but I think I like it!

TxGun · July 15, 2009, 10:54 PM

Apparently a lot of people like them.

seanie · July 16, 2009, 12:09 AM

I was eyeballing one a few weeks ago and Gander Mtn. I ended up playing around with it and it didn't seem like a terrible gun. Good buy fro under $200 I would guess.

MAX100 · July 16, 2009, 01:31 AM

They are built like a tank and very reliable. They make very good lower cost tactical beater shotguns because they tough as nails and they don't break.

Machine Extractor & Ejector
Thick Steel receiver, thicker than the 870
Very thick solid polymer stock with a nice recoil pad not hollow sounding like comes on more expensive shotguns
All 870 parts fit except barrels
HQ aluminum trigger guard
Reliable with all ammo

Breacher Pardner Protector

GC

TxGun · July 16, 2009, 12:18 PM

Well, NEF (H&R 1871) is owned by Marlin, which is owned by Remington, which is owned by the investment firm, Ceberus. Which is a roundabout way of saying it's not surprising that a shotgun contracted out by NEF is a close clone of the Remington 870.

hogdogs · July 16, 2009, 12:36 PM

TxGun, The NEF pump has been an 870 clone far longer than there has been a connection to remington or cerebus.
Brent

neon · July 16, 2009, 01:04 PM

I know some of the 870's accessories will work on it.

TxGun · July 16, 2009, 01:07 PM

Yes, I'm aware that 870 clones, like the Hawk 982, pre-date the Pardner pump series from NEF. But it still makes NEF's/H&R's marketing of a 870 clone from Norinco very "convenient". IOW, NEF could have picked any design; could have gone Turkish, or Russian...but they picked this one, which is very clone to the iconic shotgun produced by their ownership.

hogdogs · July 16, 2009, 01:22 PM

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but they picked this one, which is very clone to the iconic shotgun produced by their ownership.

Funny part is NEF chose this clone design many years before NEF were even bought by Marlin which was years before the remington aquisition...

Not convenient... coincidence...
Brent

T.A.Sharps · July 16, 2009, 01:23 PM

I would really like to know how these guns perform. I've seen them and have been tempted before aswell. They seem to have a very tough finish, and the feel very solid when I handle them in the store.

I want to get a new barrel for my 870, but the damn things cost as much as one of these shotguns NIB.

TxGun · July 16, 2009, 01:33 PM

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but they picked this one, which is very clone to the iconic shotgun produced by their ownership.

Funny part is NEF chose this clone design many years before NEF were even bought by Marlin which was years before the remington aquisition...
Not convenient... coincidence...
Brent

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OK. You're right. I'm wrong. Thanks for the help.

neon · July 16, 2009, 01:33 PM

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I would really like to know how these guns perform.

Coffee357,

Give us a range report when you can and tell us what you think.

Coffee357 · July 16, 2009, 03:35 PM

I'll be happy to give that report. Since I plan to change out the magazine spring I'll probably wait until I've done that to do any serious shooting. Just gonna shoot a coupla rounds in the meantime to verify extraction, feeding, and firing. This poor thing is in line for a hard life... low cost and durability probably guarentees it's use as a trunk gun. Figure the new magazine spring is a good idea simply because that seems to be the greatest problem with low cost firearms.

MAX100 · July 16, 2009, 04:38 PM

The Wolff spring comes 40" long you will have to cut it to size and shape the ends. I would cut it to about 8" past the mag tube, no longer than 28".

GC

wilson133 · July 17, 2009, 05:55 AM

I bought one and ran a couple of hundred rounds through it. It functioned fine, the short barrel patterned several brands of buckshot plenty good enough for home defense ranges. In the cheap home defense shotgun category, it is better than the Maverick and about the same as the Charles Daly.

MAX100 · July 17, 2009, 06:41 AM

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In the cheap home defense shotgun category, it is better than the Maverick and about the same as the Charles Daly.

The Pardner Pump is much more durable built than the Charles Daly.

The CD has:

Aluminum receiver
Hollow thin stock & forend
Lighter weight bolt
The Charging arms hook into a plastic slot on the Plastic forend
No reinforcement steel metal forend tube under the Plastic forend, just a plastic forend that rides on the mag tube, not a durable design
Plastic trigger guard

The fit and finish on the CD is very nice.

GC

Lee Lapin · July 17, 2009, 10:46 AM

Well... shoot the heck out of it, and let us know how you like it!

lpl

jlv08 · July 17, 2009, 12:33 PM

I have two, in walnut and blue, in 12 and 20 gauge.

I have the Pardner 20 gauge Compact and the 28" barrel field gun.

These are well made, nicely machined, tick tight, shotguns.

I have owned Remingtons, Winchesters, Mossbergs, and a few other makes.

The Pardner, compared to the others field grade guns is, to me, and excellent choice.

Max 100 has alot of the details in previous posts and gives a good appraisal of these guns.

TYM2MOTR · July 17, 2009, 09:52 PM

I bought a NEF Protector last yr to keep as an upstairs house gun @ my camp. I thought I'd try one out as it was on sale and I had a coupon = $140 out the door. I've put some rounds through it but for me it's a hang around gun being a full bore barrel. I was impressed right away so I bought another NEF pump, the 28" field gun for sporting clays. T.A your right, it was $40 cheaper than buying just a 28" choked barrel for my old 870 (+2 extra chokes). I've used this one a lot and it's been a great, reliable gun.

Coffee, I'm sure you'll like it. You can get other barrels for it, a 22' rifled ($110) or a 28" choked ($106, uses Moss accu chokes). Go to H&R 1871's Barrel Accessory Program to check it out. You'll find the scope rail there too. These are still listed as NEF but are now only available from Marlin since Remington bought them both.

Smallgame2100 · July 18, 2009, 11:28 PM

I wouldn't mind that for under $200. My 12ga was under $200 with no problems..and it was used and in good condition. NEF is a good company, I have shot their single shot .410.

hogdogs · July 18, 2009, 11:38 PM

Smallgame, The singles are American made but the pump is a chinese made gun IIRC...
Brent

akr · July 18, 2009, 11:55 PM

It is a Chinese gun but it is a good gun.

troy_mclure · July 19, 2009, 12:01 AM

id get a used 500, or 870 rather than a pardner.

Lavid2002 · July 19, 2009, 12:03 AM

dude I have killed so many ducks with my NEF, ill beat any 870 with my nef pardner pump. dont let anyone bash on u bro its a sick gun.

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id get a used 500, or 870 rather than a pardner.

Why dude, gimme ONE good reason

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Figure the new magazine spring is a good idea simply because that seems to be the greatest problem with low cost firearms.

Nope, the most common problem I have had with my 870 is a sticky chamber wen I first got it....I took a 12 ga brush and stuck it in a drill and made the chamber a little wider with some buffing compound, now it has literally thousands of rounds through it....3" hunting loads and 2 3\4" target loads and its banging. no problems. Just store it upside down, start early because when the oil leaks down into the stock it softens it over years and years....

hogdogs · July 19, 2009, 12:03 AM

I am with Troy...
I only buy chinese when an offering from a free nation with free enterprise is not available....
Brent

July 15, 2009, 10:50 PM	#1
Coffee357 Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2001 Posts: 100	Uh, just bought an NEF Pardner Pump :-\| Just bought a Pardner Pump Protector in 12 gauge. Didn't really mean to but saw a sub $200 price tag on a basic, utilitarian, copy of an 870 and before I knew it I felt my hand moving towards my wallet. I haven't fired it yet but I actually think I like the gun. Always liked a parkerized finish and the gun seems to have a shorter reach to the forearm, which I also like when cycling the action. Already ordered a Wolf 10%+ magazine spring for the gun and plan to treat it to (a lot) of oil tomorrow. ... Not sure exacty what happened or why I have this gun... but I think I like it!

July 15, 2009, 10:54 PM	#2
TxGun Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Family ranch - Central TX. Posts: 467	Apparently a lot of people like them. Last edited by TxGun; July 16, 2009 at 12:36 AM.

July 16, 2009, 01:31 AM	#4
MAX100 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: SC- at the GUN-CONNECTION Posts: 359	They are built like a tank and very reliable. They make very good lower cost tactical beater shotguns because they tough as nails and they don't break. Machine Extractor & Ejector Thick Steel receiver, thicker than the 870 Very thick solid polymer stock with a nice recoil pad not hollow sounding like comes on more expensive shotguns All 870 parts fit except barrels HQ aluminum trigger guard Reliable with all ammo Breacher Pardner Protector GC __________________ ==GUN CONNECTION== [email protected]

July 16, 2009, 01:07 PM	#8
TxGun Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Family ranch - Central TX. Posts: 467	Yes, I'm aware that 870 clones, like the Hawk 982, pre-date the Pardner pump series from NEF. But it still makes NEF's/H&R's marketing of a 870 clone from Norinco very "convenient". IOW, NEF could have picked any design; could have gone Turkish, or Russian...but they picked this one, which is very clone to the iconic shotgun produced by their ownership. Last edited by TxGun; July 16, 2009 at 01:20 PM.

July 16, 2009, 01:23 PM	#10
T.A.Sharps Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2007 Posts: 675	I would really like to know how these guns perform. I've seen them and have been tempted before aswell. They seem to have a very tough finish, and the feel very solid when I handle them in the store. I want to get a new barrel for my 870, but the damn things cost as much as one of these shotguns NIB. __________________ " ...Said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it..." "Your reality, sir, is lies and bladerdash, and I am delighted to say I have no grasp of it whatsoever!"

July 16, 2009, 12:09 AM	#3
seanie Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 147	I was eyeballing one a few weeks ago and Gander Mtn. I ended up playing around with it and it didn't seem like a terrible gun. Good buy fro under $200 I would guess.

July 16, 2009, 12:18 PM	#5
TxGun Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Family ranch - Central TX. Posts: 467	Well, NEF (H&R 1871) is owned by Marlin, which is owned by Remington, which is owned by the investment firm, Ceberus. Which is a roundabout way of saying it's not surprising that a shotgun contracted out by NEF is a close clone of the Remington 870.

July 16, 2009, 12:36 PM	#6
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	TxGun, The NEF pump has been an 870 clone far longer than there has been a connection to remington or cerebus. Brent

July 16, 2009, 01:04 PM	#7
neon Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2009 Posts: 196	I know some of the 870's accessories will work on it.

July 16, 2009, 01:33 PM	#11
TxGun Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Family ranch - Central TX. Posts: 467	Quote: but they picked this one, which is very clone to the iconic shotgun produced by their ownership. Funny part is NEF chose this clone design many years before NEF were even bought by Marlin which was years before the remington aquisition... Not convenient... coincidence... Brent --------------------------- OK. You're right. I'm wrong. Thanks for the help.

July 16, 2009, 03:35 PM	#13
Coffee357 Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2001 Posts: 100	I'll be happy to give that report. Since I plan to change out the magazine spring I'll probably wait until I've done that to do any serious shooting. Just gonna shoot a coupla rounds in the meantime to verify extraction, feeding, and firing. This poor thing is in line for a hard life... low cost and durability probably guarentees it's use as a trunk gun. Figure the new magazine spring is a good idea simply because that seems to be the greatest problem with low cost firearms.

July 16, 2009, 04:38 PM	#14
MAX100 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: SC- at the GUN-CONNECTION Posts: 359	The Wolff spring comes 40" long you will have to cut it to size and shape the ends. I would cut it to about 8" past the mag tube, no longer than 28". GC __________________ ==GUN CONNECTION== [email protected]

July 17, 2009, 05:55 AM	#15
wilson133 Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2006 Posts: 194	I bought one and ran a couple of hundred rounds through it. It functioned fine, the short barrel patterned several brands of buckshot plenty good enough for home defense ranges. In the cheap home defense shotgun category, it is better than the Maverick and about the same as the Charles Daly.

July 17, 2009, 10:46 AM	#17
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	Well... shoot the heck out of it, and let us know how you like it! lpl

July 17, 2009, 12:33 PM	#18
jlv08 Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2008 Posts: 122	I have two, in walnut and blue, in 12 and 20 gauge. I have the Pardner 20 gauge Compact and the 28" barrel field gun. These are well made, nicely machined, tick tight, shotguns. I have owned Remingtons, Winchesters, Mossbergs, and a few other makes. The Pardner, compared to the others field grade guns is, to me, and excellent choice. Max 100 has alot of the details in previous posts and gives a good appraisal of these guns.

July 17, 2009, 09:52 PM	#19
TYM2MOTR Member Join Date: July 17, 2009 Location: Steuben Co. NY Posts: 24	I bought a NEF Protector last yr to keep as an upstairs house gun @ my camp. I thought I'd try one out as it was on sale and I had a coupon = $140 out the door. I've put some rounds through it but for me it's a hang around gun being a full bore barrel. I was impressed right away so I bought another NEF pump, the 28" field gun for sporting clays. T.A your right, it was $40 cheaper than buying just a 28" choked barrel for my old 870 (+2 extra chokes). I've used this one a lot and it's been a great, reliable gun. Coffee, I'm sure you'll like it. You can get other barrels for it, a 22' rifled ($110) or a 28" choked ($106, uses Moss accu chokes). Go to H&R 1871's Barrel Accessory Program to check it out. You'll find the scope rail there too. These are still listed as NEF but are now only available from Marlin since Remington bought them both.

July 18, 2009, 11:28 PM	#20
Smallgame2100 Junior member Join Date: January 8, 2009 Location: New York Posts: 164	I wouldn't mind that for under $200. My 12ga was under $200 with no problems..and it was used and in good condition. NEF is a good company, I have shot their single shot .410.

July 18, 2009, 11:38 PM	#21
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Smallgame, The singles are American made but the pump is a chinese made gun IIRC... Brent

July 18, 2009, 11:55 PM	#22
akr Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,379	It is a Chinese gun but it is a good gun. __________________ Http://www.nationalgunforum.com NRA Lifetime Member

July 19, 2009, 12:01 AM	#23
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	id get a used 500, or 870 rather than a pardner. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

July 19, 2009, 12:03 AM	#25
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	I am with Troy... I only buy chinese when an offering from a free nation with free enterprise is not available.... Brent