Burris fullfield II vs Nikon buckmasters vs Bushnell 3200...

Servo77 · October 5, 2009, 07:21 AM

Which of the 3 lines would you choose and why? Seems like (from what I have read) that the burris is more rugged, but the nikon may have better glass. The bushnell is pretty well regarded too. All are roughly the same price.

What say you?

sholling · October 5, 2009, 09:58 AM

Of those three I'd go with the 3200. The glass is at least as good as the other two plus it has Rainguard.

Did you have a power range in mind and price in mind? If It's 3-9x or 2.5-10x40 I'd shop sales online for a Bushnell Elite 4200. I've seen some in the $299-330 range lately. Check Natchez and SWFA.

ZeroJunk · October 5, 2009, 10:30 AM

I have had all three of them and I like the Burris better. But, there is very little difference between them and I'm not even sure why I like the Burris better.

Water-Man · October 5, 2009, 10:30 AM

The Burris! I've had all three.

mikejonestkd · October 5, 2009, 12:20 PM

I prefer the 3200 bushnell, mostly because I have several and have never had any probelms with them. Clear, bright, rugged, and hold their zero well. Rainguard helps too!!

thinkingman · October 5, 2009, 12:42 PM

I have 2 Burris FFII's and they're very good, easy pick over Leupold VX-I.
I wouldn't buy another because the entire eyepiece turns when you adjust the power ring....
Only a problem if you use Butler Creek flip up caps in the woods.
I would shop for a 4200 or Nikon Team Primos for a few more shekels.

Inspector3711 · October 5, 2009, 12:58 PM

I ahve both the Bushnell 3200 and the Burris FFII. I prefer the Burris.

LateNightFlight · October 5, 2009, 05:41 PM

I have both a Nikon Buckmaster and a Burris Fullfield II; I like them both and could go either way. I don't have any experience with the Bushnell 3200. Just to throw you a curve, (

), 3 of the last 4 scopes I've bought have all come from this Natchezss Weaver page - if you thought you might like something decent for the money with a side focus and lighted reticle (in the 2.5-10X range.) : http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?brand=WE

It looks like most of those are currently out of stock, but they were out of stock when I first started looking and they do get them in. (Note: I wouldn't choose their German #4 reticle to shoot targets as their x-hairs are too heavy. But they're quick pointing and a good fit for a variety of hunting situations. And in the worst light you can turn on the lighted reticle.)

None of these are VX3s, Black Diamonds or some flavor of Nightforce, but they’re good, serviceable scopes that don’t come in a blister pack from isle 79. I think you’ll be happy with any of these choices.

penceman · October 6, 2009, 07:28 PM

I'd spend $30 more and buy a Nikon Team Primos. I just put one on my Model 70 and the clarity is better than my Leupold VXII. From what I've heard the Team Primos is the exact same thing as the Nikon Monarch. When Nikon stopped making the Monarch in 3-9x40 they came out with the Team Primos line to continue it. Excellent scope for the money.

sholling · October 6, 2009, 07:54 PM

+1 the Team Primos for $220.

whiplash · October 6, 2009, 08:57 PM

I have the 3200 on my Barrett M99 50BMG (it came with it, so I didnt choose it), and it seems to be holding up so far. Its the fixed 10x mil dot. All the reticle adjustments have been accurate and reliable...

aushunter · October 7, 2009, 03:19 AM

I would'nt think the bushnell scope would hold up to the recoil of the .50 cal!!
I have just bought my first bushnell 7-21x40ao for my CZ .17hmr..
Still yet to try it but I have 2 Leopolds(both VXII's) & found there light retention awesome so it will be a test for the bushnell.

LanceOregon · October 7, 2009, 05:10 AM

You could get a really nice Nikon Monarch instead of any of these for just a little bit more money. The extra dollars would be more than well spent, as you would be moving into a whole new higher grade category of scope.

Bud's Gun Shop.com easily has the best prices anywhere on the Nikon Monarch scopes. Just go and compare some of these other scopes there.

Here are some comparisons for you from the Budsgunshop.com website:

Bushnell Elite 3200 Rifle Scope 4-12x40mm AO Matte: $262.00

Burris FullField II 3.5-10x50mm Riflescope w/Ballistic Plex Reticle: $358.00

NIKON MONARCH 2-10X42mm Nikoplex Matte: $332.00

The Nikon Monarch is well worth paying the small amount of extra money for. You would regret not getting it in the long run.

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cimarronvalley · October 7, 2009, 07:32 PM

Burris FFII or Pentax Pioneer both 4.5x14x42 (Pentax Pioneer glass is made by Burris but is $30-$50 less). American glass and assymbled in the Philippines.
Although I do love the side focus on the Buckmastser 4.5x14x40.

After years of experimenting with various scopes, these are 3 high quality scopes for the dollar. They maintain point of impact through the power ranges. I know all gun people hate them, but the best place to buy scopes is from Ebay.

bamafan4life · October 7, 2009, 07:43 PM

there all about the same but id go with burris because of the forever warranty. and that b-plex reticle is pretty cool

cimarronvalley · October 7, 2009, 09:09 PM

Burris FFII or Pentax Pioneer both 4.5x14x42 (Pentax Pioneer glass is made by Burris but is $30-$50 less). American glass and assymbled in the Philippines.
Although I do love the side focus on the Buckmastser 4.5x14x40.

After years of experimenting with various scopes, these are 3 high quality scopes for the dollar. They maintain point of impact through the power ranges. I know all gun people hate them, but the best place to buy scopes is from Ebay.

October 5, 2009, 07:21 AM	#1
Servo77 Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2005 Location: Southeast OH Posts: 905	Burris fullfield II vs Nikon buckmasters vs Bushnell 3200... Which of the 3 lines would you choose and why? Seems like (from what I have read) that the burris is more rugged, but the nikon may have better glass. The bushnell is pretty well regarded too. All are roughly the same price. What say you? __________________ "Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?!"

October 5, 2009, 09:58 AM	#2
sholling Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 1999 Location: Hemet (middle of nowhere) California Posts: 4,261	Of those three I'd go with the 3200. The glass is at least as good as the other two plus it has Rainguard. Did you have a power range in mind and price in mind? If It's 3-9x or 2.5-10x40 I'd shop sales online for a Bushnell Elite 4200. I've seen some in the $299-330 range lately. Check Natchez and SWFA. __________________ Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, California Rifle & Pistol Association, and the Second Amendment Foundation. Annual Member: Revolutionary War Veterans Association (Project Appleseed) and the Madison Society. Last edited by sholling; October 5, 2009 at 10:17 AM.

October 5, 2009, 12:20 PM	#5
mikejonestkd Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2006 Location: Brockport, NY Posts: 3,716	I prefer the 3200 bushnell, mostly because I have several and have never had any probelms with them. Clear, bright, rugged, and hold their zero well. Rainguard helps too!! __________________ You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

October 5, 2009, 12:58 PM	#7
Inspector3711 Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2008 Location: Puget Sound Washington Posts: 1,553	I ahve both the Bushnell 3200 and the Burris FFII. I prefer the Burris. __________________ "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." The Dalai Llama (5/15/01, The Seattle Times) "That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." George Orwell

October 5, 2009, 05:41 PM	#8
LateNightFlight Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2007 Location: Central Missouri Posts: 552	I have both a Nikon Buckmaster and a Burris Fullfield II; I like them both and could go either way. I don't have any experience with the Bushnell 3200. Just to throw you a curve, (), 3 of the last 4 scopes I've bought have all come from this Natchezss Weaver page - if you thought you might like something decent for the money with a side focus and lighted reticle (in the 2.5-10X range.) : http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?brand=WE It looks like most of those are currently out of stock, but they were out of stock when I first started looking and they do get them in. (Note: I wouldn't choose their German #4 reticle to shoot targets as their x-hairs are too heavy. But they're quick pointing and a good fit for a variety of hunting situations. And in the worst light you can turn on the lighted reticle.) None of these are VX3s, Black Diamonds or some flavor of Nightforce, but they’re good, serviceable scopes that don’t come in a blister pack from isle 79. I think you’ll be happy with any of these choices.

October 5, 2009, 10:30 AM	#3
ZeroJunk Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Location: Browns Summit NC Posts: 2,589	I have had all three of them and I like the Burris better. But, there is very little difference between them and I'm not even sure why I like the Burris better.

October 5, 2009, 10:30 AM	#4
Water-Man Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,126	The Burris! I've had all three.

October 5, 2009, 12:42 PM	#6
thinkingman Senior Member Join Date: March 27, 2008 Location: western WA Posts: 691	I have 2 Burris FFII's and they're very good, easy pick over Leupold VX-I. I wouldn't buy another because the entire eyepiece turns when you adjust the power ring.... Only a problem if you use Butler Creek flip up caps in the woods. I would shop for a 4200 or Nikon Team Primos for a few more shekels.

October 6, 2009, 07:28 PM	#9
penceman Member Join Date: January 30, 2008 Posts: 32	I'd spend $30 more and buy a Nikon Team Primos. I just put one on my Model 70 and the clarity is better than my Leupold VXII. From what I've heard the Team Primos is the exact same thing as the Nikon Monarch. When Nikon stopped making the Monarch in 3-9x40 they came out with the Team Primos line to continue it. Excellent scope for the money.

October 6, 2009, 07:54 PM	#10
sholling Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 1999 Location: Hemet (middle of nowhere) California Posts: 4,261	+1 the Team Primos for $220. __________________ Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, California Rifle & Pistol Association, and the Second Amendment Foundation. Annual Member: Revolutionary War Veterans Association (Project Appleseed) and the Madison Society.

October 6, 2009, 08:57 PM	#11
whiplash Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 334	I have the 3200 on my Barrett M99 50BMG (it came with it, so I didnt choose it), and it seems to be holding up so far. Its the fixed 10x mil dot. All the reticle adjustments have been accurate and reliable...

October 7, 2009, 03:19 AM	#12
aushunter Member Join Date: June 7, 2009 Location: N.S.W AUSTRALIA Posts: 44	wow, bushnell 3200 on a 50 cal bmg!! I would'nt think the bushnell scope would hold up to the recoil of the .50 cal!! I have just bought my first bushnell 7-21x40ao for my CZ .17hmr.. Still yet to try it but I have 2 Leopolds(both VXII's) & found there light retention awesome so it will be a test for the bushnell.

October 7, 2009, 05:10 AM	#13
LanceOregon Junior member Join Date: May 10, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,774	You could get a really nice Nikon Monarch instead of any of these for just a little bit more money. The extra dollars would be more than well spent, as you would be moving into a whole new higher grade category of scope. Bud's Gun Shop.com easily has the best prices anywhere on the Nikon Monarch scopes. Just go and compare some of these other scopes there. Here are some comparisons for you from the Budsgunshop.com website: Bushnell Elite 3200 Rifle Scope 4-12x40mm AO Matte: $262.00 Burris FullField II 3.5-10x50mm Riflescope w/Ballistic Plex Reticle: $358.00 NIKON MONARCH 2-10X42mm Nikoplex Matte: $332.00 The Nikon Monarch is well worth paying the small amount of extra money for. You would regret not getting it in the long run. --

October 7, 2009, 07:32 PM	#14
cimarronvalley Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2007 Location: Shawnee, Ok. Posts: 155	Scope Burris FFII or Pentax Pioneer both 4.5x14x42 (Pentax Pioneer glass is made by Burris but is $30-$50 less). American glass and assymbled in the Philippines. Although I do love the side focus on the Buckmastser 4.5x14x40. After years of experimenting with various scopes, these are 3 high quality scopes for the dollar. They maintain point of impact through the power ranges. I know all gun people hate them, but the best place to buy scopes is from Ebay.

October 7, 2009, 07:43 PM	#15
bamafan4life Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2009 Posts: 190	there all about the same but id go with burris because of the forever warranty. and that b-plex reticle is pretty cool

October 7, 2009, 09:09 PM	#16
cimarronvalley Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2007 Location: Shawnee, Ok. Posts: 155	Scope Burris FFII or Pentax Pioneer both 4.5x14x42 (Pentax Pioneer glass is made by Burris but is $30-$50 less). American glass and assymbled in the Philippines. Although I do love the side focus on the Buckmastser 4.5x14x40. After years of experimenting with various scopes, these are 3 high quality scopes for the dollar. They maintain point of impact through the power ranges. I know all gun people hate them, but the best place to buy scopes is from Ebay.

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