November 13, 2009, 11:41 PM | #1 |
Member
Join Date: December 25, 2008
Posts: 46
|
K98 takes a muley stag
Shot him from 200 yards. Was scratching my head when I saw he was still in full velvet. Scratching it even harder when I went to open him up and saw he had no testicals. Turns out that's why he is still in velvet. Weighed over 200 dressed and by the condition of his teeth judges to be around a decade old. Boned him out today and the meet looks really good for an old bruiser like him. Of course he's never done anything but eat, eat, eat.
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...S/100_1974.jpg |
November 14, 2009, 12:10 AM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 21, 2008
Location: Alabama
Posts: 419
|
VERY NICE..... Ive got a K98 sporter Ive talked about hunting with. Now I just might.
__________________
Jesus according to Luke:22:36: Then said he unto them, ,,,,,, and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one......... Thomas Jefferson: "No man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." |
November 14, 2009, 12:28 AM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 7, 2004
Location: At the diner
Posts: 125
|
Don't you mean she??
Isn't this a doe or hermaphrodite or something? Or did it have a penis and just not testicles?? I've seen whitetail does with Antlers (well, once - buddy shot it and freaked out when he discovered his buck was a doe) |
November 14, 2009, 09:14 AM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 17, 2007
Location: Salina, KS.
Posts: 215
|
I bet anything that is a she.
this is one from our area. |
November 14, 2009, 09:18 AM | #5 |
Member
Join Date: December 25, 2008
Posts: 46
|
No, it was definetly a he. There was a penis. And we found insided attached to the urethra what looked to be one small testicle.
|
November 14, 2009, 09:29 AM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 17, 2007
Location: Salina, KS.
Posts: 215
|
Then its either a crytorchid (retained teste) or a hermaphrodite. If the penis was smallish, and the teste was inside, was it attached to a tube? Maybe a smallish reproductive organ resembling a uterus?
By the way, congrats on the excellent buck! |
November 15, 2009, 04:35 PM | #7 |
Member
Join Date: December 25, 2008
Posts: 46
|
The penis was smallish and yes the teste, if it was one, was attached to the penal tube. It was also located in about the same area that the testicals should have been if on the outside.
|
November 15, 2009, 04:50 PM | #8 |
Staff In Memoriam
Join Date: October 31, 2007
Location: Western Florida panhandle
Posts: 11,069
|
"Nuts never dropped" is the scientific name I knew it as...
Brent |
November 15, 2009, 05:18 PM | #9 |
Member
Join Date: December 25, 2008
Posts: 46
|
Here's a pic.
|
November 15, 2009, 05:46 PM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: August 23, 2005
Posts: 3,248
|
What state did you shoot him in?
|
November 15, 2009, 06:56 PM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 24, 2007
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 467
|
Well, regardless of what he is, nice buck, that is a pig! Is your gun an 8mm?
|
November 15, 2009, 08:01 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 29, 2008
Location: The retarded place below Idaho
Posts: 1,408
|
Did it have the scent glands on the legs?
|
November 15, 2009, 09:28 PM | #13 |
Member
Join Date: December 25, 2008
Posts: 46
|
Montana. 8mm yes. Yes he had scent glands. It is the hight of the rut here now and did not smell as though he was rutting. There was a very slight oder if you sniffed his gland up close but not enough to say he was in rut. He had been with a doe and fawn, however. But by the time I got to him they had split apart, though he was sniffing as though he was searching for them.
|
November 15, 2009, 11:14 PM | #14 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 29, 2008
Location: The retarded place below Idaho
Posts: 1,408
|
Sounds like a true stag either through under development or injury. They do make interesting trophies.
|
November 17, 2009, 01:36 PM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 8, 2005
Location: South Texas
Posts: 814
|
Just curious, do deer like that ever drop there horns, or do they continue to grow since they stay in velvet. My dad mounted a deer for a guy probably 10 yrs ago that was still in velvet because it had hooked his nuts on a fence or something and castrated itself. I've heard of antlered does as well. Always wondered if the deer drop there horns like other bucks do.
|
November 17, 2009, 02:52 PM | #16 |
Member
Join Date: December 25, 2008
Posts: 46
|
From the research I've been able to conduct it seems that they do not lose them, they do stay in velvet, and do continue to grow but at a very slow rate. A buck who's teste's are injured or through underdevlopment will produce just enough hormone to sprout antlers. The other side effect is all the narls and crazy small points. They are sometimes called "cactus heads."
|
November 17, 2009, 05:21 PM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 8, 2005
Location: South Texas
Posts: 814
|
I wouldn't think they would since the stay in velvet. I would think they would have to loose the velvet which is the blood supply so they would start drying.
|
November 17, 2009, 06:17 PM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 25, 2008
Posts: 891
|
Nice deer, beautiful rifle!
I wonder how many Russkies that rifle killed. |
November 17, 2009, 07:03 PM | #19 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 29, 2008
Location: The retarded place below Idaho
Posts: 1,408
|
A true stag either from injury or development problems does not drop its antlers. They continue to grow until death, the rate is much, much slower though. Their antlers will usually not be formed in the "typical" manner, many abnormal points. Some will look like a club with melted wax running down the antler.
|
November 20, 2009, 07:42 AM | #20 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 17, 2006
Location: East Texas
Posts: 334
|
Congrats on a fine job. Backstraps for the freezer. What load did you use in your rifle to take the deer?
|
November 20, 2009, 02:41 PM | #21 |
Senior Member
Join Date: March 10, 2009
Location: Tigard Or,
Posts: 342
|
Test
He's a Eunuch, should have given him the Eunuch test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3viQ...eature=related |
November 20, 2009, 06:22 PM | #22 |
Member
Join Date: December 25, 2008
Posts: 46
|
Hornady 150 SP over 50 grains Varget, Remington brass neck sized, CCI 200 LRP's. This load comes out the barrel at 2,730 fps and is terribly accurate. Consistent 1" groups at 100 yards. The accuracy and knock down power has held up at long distances too, despite a Ballistic Coefficient of just .290. Took a antelope buck at 300 and antelope doe at 375.
|
November 20, 2009, 09:19 PM | #23 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 30, 2009
Location: Rural Ne
Posts: 580
|
Well done! Once in a lifetime chance fullfilled. You will be telling this hunting storie for the rest of your life. Congrats!!!
__________________
Luke 22:36 Single six 1954 |
November 21, 2009, 01:46 PM | #24 |
Senior Member
Join Date: August 23, 2007
Posts: 1,030
|
Congrats! A good oddball trophy to go on the wall
I got a Muley doe with a family heirloom this year. 8X56 Mannlicher M1908. Not a former military gun, one of the civilian full stocked ones. Just gives you a nice feeling using guns like that A question, was this in the Missouri Breaks? I know a LOT of country looks like that, but I was curious. MONTANA RULES!!! (P.S. That's where I live too ) |
November 21, 2009, 03:01 PM | #25 |
Member
Join Date: December 25, 2008
Posts: 46
|
Further south from the breaks. Inbetween Miles City and Forsyth.
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|