Glock 30 Kaboom??

Ljlflorida · January 28, 2010, 11:12 PM

Had my Glock blow up, well really down thru the clip the other day. Its a .45 compact. I've never had a problem before this with any other of my glocks. After reading some posts I find out its common enough to have named it {kaboom} and even shortned it to kb.

Anyway, this does not look like a full KB to me. Any thoughts? also what do I do with this pistol now?

Thanks

Lenny

Ljlflorida · January 28, 2010, 11:14 PM

also

Nisei · January 28, 2010, 11:18 PM

Wow, is your hand okay? A Kb, is a Kb. I would call the Glock service people and talk with them about it. What brand of ammo were you using?

EEL92fs · January 28, 2010, 11:19 PM

What ammo did it?

madmag · January 28, 2010, 11:34 PM

-Have you contacted Glock?

-Do you have the spent shell casing?

-What ammo? (asked above)

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also what do I do with this pistol now?

That could depend on your answers. If you were not using re-loads etc, then I would certainly pursue Glock to get answers and maybe a new gun.

grubbylabs · January 28, 2010, 11:36 PM

There is a thread on here about re- chambering rounds and from what I read the 45 was the worst one about the bullet sliding back, There was even a safety bulletin posted by the New Mexico labs about it. They said the slug sliding back increased case pressure enough to cause the KB
Judging from your next post I guess this is not the case. Sorry for your bad luck.

Ljlflorida · January 28, 2010, 11:36 PM

We were using magtech, Sellier & Bellot, Blazer, and Winchester. We were shooting bowling pins, shot at 10 missed 1, loaded a single round, released the slide and fired. The pin went down the gun blew up. All I got was a little cut/flashburn and a numb finger. We tried to find a "bad" case to determine brand but couldnt. The barrel was clear upon inspection.

So do I fix this gun and go on like normal, or is a glock KB normal???

Ljlflorida · January 28, 2010, 11:37 PM

The blue stuff on my hand is unrelated {PVC Glue}

madmag · January 28, 2010, 11:41 PM

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They said the slug sliding back increased case pressure enough to cause the KB

Set-back can be an issue. It will cause higher pressure.

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or is a glock KB normal???

Lot's of debates on this issue. Glock does have an un-supported area in the chamber, but so do some other gun makes. My G36 does have an un-supported area, but so does my Ruger P90.

grubbylabs · January 28, 2010, 11:44 PM

Guess he was using a new one though.

madmag · January 28, 2010, 11:50 PM

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We tried to find a "bad" case to determine brand but couldn't. The barrel was clear upon inspection.

I would expect the case to be blown out and easy to spot. But maybe not seeing a bad case is also information. This may not have been due to a case rupture related to un-supported chamber.

Ljlflorida · January 28, 2010, 11:51 PM

Higher Pressure

If the slug slides back from chambering/clearing a round too many times the pressure goes up. Well ok, but it shouldnt blow the gun apart like this. Besides glock says they test fire with "hot" loads, presumably with much higher pressures.

If my second last shot was a squib but somehow cycled the gun, wouldnt the last shot bulge the barrel or jam or something?

Its being sent to Glock tomarrow

gb6491 · January 28, 2010, 11:52 PM

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loaded a single round, released the slide and fired.

Did you load that round from the magazine or drop it in the chamber?
Regards,
Greg

Ljlflorida · January 28, 2010, 11:54 PM

I was un-aware of the whole unsupported case thing before. I understand it now. There was no blown out case on the ground. I took the pic of the chamber to show that it was not blown out.

madmag · January 28, 2010, 11:56 PM

One more quick question.

You said released the slide and fired. I assume you pulled the trigger? Not a slam fire that fired when the slide went home?

Ljlflorida · January 28, 2010, 11:57 PM

I loaded a single shell in the clip, slid in the clip and released the slide which chambered the round the fired it.

I had just shot ten rounds and hit nine pins. Before we went to re-set pins I was gonna take care of that one.

This was not a reload

Ljlflorida · January 28, 2010, 11:58 PM

No it was not a slam fire.

I have never had one of those

madmag · January 29, 2010, 12:06 AM

OK, let us know what Glock says.

madmag · January 29, 2010, 12:13 AM

One more.

The ammo listed looks fine, but did you or anyone use lead cast bullets at some time in your pistol?

pacerdude · January 29, 2010, 12:25 AM

I'm glad your hand is ok. I wish I could say the same about your Glock. I have only heard rumors of the Glock kaboom until now, and from what you have told us, it was not caused by user-error.

Good Luck!

troy_mclure · January 29, 2010, 03:04 AM

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or is a glock KB normal???

Pretty much! lol

imthegrumpyone · January 29, 2010, 04:43 AM

How many times do I have to warn you guys about Glocks, they're book enda or paper weights only.

Glad you didn't hurt. By the way, not first time I've heard something bad about Magtech.

Double Naught Spy · January 29, 2010, 08:01 AM

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also what do I do with this pistol now?

You are doing it. You now have a show and tell item.

cwb · January 29, 2010, 09:35 AM

reason #16 why i got an hk instead of a glock,hk's dont go kaboom

goodspeed(TPF) · January 29, 2010, 09:46 AM

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I had just shot ten rounds and hit nine pins.

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I loaded a single shell in the clip, slid in the clip and released the slide which chambered the round the fired it.

Possible squib load stuck in the barrel. Would explain why you didn't hit pin #10. Then you loaded another round right behind it. Would explain your results. Happens with all sorts of guns. Not just Glocks. Keep us posted. -Goodspeed

January 28, 2010, 11:18 PM	#3
Nisei Member Join Date: September 16, 2008 Posts: 78	Wow, is your hand okay? A Kb, is a Kb. I would call the Glock service people and talk with them about it. What brand of ammo were you using? __________________ "In anything at all, perfection is finally attained not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away." - Antoine de Saint Exupéry

January 28, 2010, 11:19 PM	#4
EEL92fs Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2007 Location: Dayton OH Posts: 155	Are you a Reloader? What ammo did it?

January 29, 2010, 12:25 AM	#20
pacerdude Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 607	I'm glad your hand is ok. I wish I could say the same about your Glock. I have only heard rumors of the Glock kaboom until now, and from what you have told us, it was not caused by user-error. Good Luck! __________________ Let not a man guard his dignity, but let his dignity guard him. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

January 29, 2010, 04:43 AM	#22
imthegrumpyone Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2007 Location: spring tx Posts: 1,037	How many times do I have to warn you guys about Glocks, they're book enda or paper weights only. Glad you didn't hurt. By the way, not first time I've heard something bad about Magtech. __________________ chambered and unlocked

January 29, 2010, 09:35 AM	#24
cwb Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2006 Location: jax fl Posts: 482	reason #16 why i got an hk instead of a glock,hk's dont go kaboom __________________

January 28, 2010, 11:36 PM	#6
grubbylabs Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2009 Location: Hansen Idaho Posts: 1,465	There is a thread on here about re- chambering rounds and from what I read the 45 was the worst one about the bullet sliding back, There was even a safety bulletin posted by the New Mexico labs about it. They said the slug sliding back increased case pressure enough to cause the KB Judging from your next post I guess this is not the case. Sorry for your bad luck.

January 28, 2010, 11:37 PM	#8
Ljlflorida Junior Member Join Date: January 28, 2010 Posts: 12	The blue stuff on my hand is unrelated {PVC Glue}

January 28, 2010, 11:44 PM	#10
grubbylabs Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2009 Location: Hansen Idaho Posts: 1,465	Guess he was using a new one though.

January 28, 2010, 11:51 PM	#12
Ljlflorida Junior Member Join Date: January 28, 2010 Posts: 12	Higher Pressure If the slug slides back from chambering/clearing a round too many times the pressure goes up. Well ok, but it shouldnt blow the gun apart like this. Besides glock says they test fire with "hot" loads, presumably with much higher pressures. If my second last shot was a squib but somehow cycled the gun, wouldnt the last shot bulge the barrel or jam or something? Its being sent to Glock tomarrow

January 28, 2010, 11:54 PM	#14
Ljlflorida Junior Member Join Date: January 28, 2010 Posts: 12	I was un-aware of the whole unsupported case thing before. I understand it now. There was no blown out case on the ground. I took the pic of the chamber to show that it was not blown out.

January 28, 2010, 11:56 PM	#15
madmag Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2007 Location: The South Posts: 4,239	One more quick question. You said released the slide and fired. I assume you pulled the trigger? Not a slam fire that fired when the slide went home?

January 28, 2010, 11:57 PM	#16
Ljlflorida Junior Member Join Date: January 28, 2010 Posts: 12	I loaded a single shell in the clip, slid in the clip and released the slide which chambered the round the fired it. I had just shot ten rounds and hit nine pins. Before we went to re-set pins I was gonna take care of that one. This was not a reload

January 28, 2010, 11:58 PM	#17
Ljlflorida Junior Member Join Date: January 28, 2010 Posts: 12	No it was not a slam fire. I have never had one of those

January 29, 2010, 12:06 AM	#18
madmag Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2007 Location: The South Posts: 4,239	OK, let us know what Glock says.

January 29, 2010, 12:13 AM	#19
madmag Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2007 Location: The South Posts: 4,239	One more. The ammo listed looks fine, but did you or anyone use lead cast bullets at some time in your pistol?