Restrain Your Language - But Never Forget!

**Dennis** · November 18, 2000, 07:05 PM

All,

I have a photo for you. Here is the caption for the photo from Reuters:

(quote)
President Clinton accompanied by Dave Evert (L) and Dan Evert (R), sons of
former fighter pilot Captain Lawrence Evert, survey the Joint Task Force-Full
Accounting excavation site in the village of Tien Chau, outside of Hanoi
November 18, 2000.

Clinton visited the site where the team is searching for the remains of Evert,
whose fighter plane crashed while on a bombing mission 17 miles northwest
of Hanoi on November 8, 1967.
(unquote)

Before you go to the photo, steel yourselves.

Please, maintain decorum on TFL.

We do not want to lower ourselves to the level of our President.

We want our children to see this and to understand our fury.

Look at the President's pants suit.

(DC and Rich, thank you for your help in making the photo available for us.)

Once you have seen the picture, if you believe it looks like the "black pajamas" of our former adversary, then I would ask that you spread this photo and its caption far and wide. Use the internet to show what our leadership has become to wear something like that over the muddy hole that serves as a grave for a brave American.

Note what we could expect from someone such as Vice President Gore - who calls President Clinton as a "dear friend" and mentor.
-------

Here’s the full story:

(quote)

Clinton Arrives in Former South Vietnam Capital
November 18, 2000 1:18 pm EST

By Arshad Mohammed
HO CHI MINH CITY, Vietnam (Reuters) - Bill Clinton arrived in Ho Chi Minh
City late Saturday, the first U.S. president since the Vietnam War to visit the
city that fell to the communists after American troops pulled out in the
1970s.

Clinton will spend a night and day in the former South Vietnamese capital,
then known as Saigon.

The last U.S. president to visit was Richard Nixon in July 1969, at the height
of a war in which more than 58,000 Americans and three million Vietnamese
died.

Clinton arrived from Hanoi, where he was warmly received as a champion of
reconciliation who not only opposed and avoided the war, but ended a
punishing trade embargo in 1994, normalized diplomatic ties a year later and
pushed through a bilateral market-opening agreement this year.

The president, his wife Hillary and daughter Chelsea were met at the city's
Tan Son Nhut airport, which was also a U.S. airbase during the war, by
officials and children with bouquets of flowers.

Thousands of people lined the route of Clinton's motorcade as it drove into
the city shortly after midnight. Thousands more, mostly young people on
motorbikes, converged on streets near his city-center hotel. They were in a
festive mood, with many cheering and waving.

"I love Bill Clinton," said one young woman. "Even though he's getting older,
he still looks great!"

Most of the crowd dispersed when they realized they could not get to the
hotel, which was cordoned off by police.

MEETING CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP

Clinton is due to address business leaders in the city, Vietnam's main
commercial hub, and also plans to call on Roman Catholic Archbishop Phan
Minh Man to discuss restrictions on religious freedoms.

He ends his three-day trip to Vietnam Sunday evening and leaves for
Washington.

Saigon was renamed Ho Chi Minh City when it fell to the victorious
communists in April 1975 and the last U.S. troops and officials were
evacuated by helicopter from America's longest and most divisive war.

During his trip to Vietnam, Clinton has worked to open a new chapter in
U.S.-Vietnam relations and in a keynote speech on Friday in Hanoi
acknowledged the suffering on all sides.

Saturday, Clinton came face-to-face with the war's painful legacy when he
visited a muddy clay field northwest of Hanoi city where workers are
searching for a U.S. pilot shot down in 1967. The visibly moved president
said the pilot's sons, who joined him at the site, deserved "finally to take
their father home."

Then at a silent floodlit ceremony at Hanoi's Noi Bai airport before departing
for Ho Chi Minh City, Clinton attended a formal repatriation of remains
believed to be of three other U.S. servicemen.

Earlier, Clinton met Vietnamese children maimed by some of the millions of
land mines left over from decades of war with the United States and France.

"This is the tragedy of war for which peace provides no answer," Clinton said.
He spoke after shaking hands with one of the maimed, a young boy who
raised the stump of his left arm and his whole right arm to greet the
president.

STRESSES IMPORTANCE OF YOUTH

He has stressed the importance of the younger generation in Vietnam, where
60 percent of people have been born since the war, in building a prosperous
future.

In Ho Chi Minh city, Clinton is to meet young people active in journalism and
non-governmental service, and to visit a computerized container shipping
terminal -- a location chosen to call attention to the trade agreement and the
need for increased economic openness.

Ho Chi Minh City never quite lost its business flair despite attempts to impose
hard-line central planning after 1975, and has led the country economically
since the communist leadership in Hanoi embarked on market-orientated
reforms in 1986.

Pham Khanh Lynh, a 30-year-old former hotel manager who is typical of a
new breed of entrepreneurs in the city, said Clinton's visit should provide a
boost for business.

"It's a good chance for the world to take another look at Vietnam," he said
"We want to show that we welcome everyone in Vietnam and Mr. Clinton is
an example."

Lynh runs the city's Indexx Cafe, which acted as an unofficial stock market
before Vietnam opened its first fledgling securities exchange in July.

(unquote)

[Edited by Dennis on 11-18-2000 at 08:43 PM]

Sodbuster · November 18, 2000, 07:30 PM

He looks like a....socialist. As does the blonde in sunglasses behind him. Widest possible dissemination is indicated.

**Johnny Guest** · November 19, 2000, 06:13 PM

Wonder what the collar devices are? Anyone get a look at a close-up of Clinton in that garb?

Johnny

Ed Brunner · November 19, 2000, 06:30 PM

They are probably some variation of the presidential seal of Vietnam.

**Dennis** · November 20, 2000, 12:00 PM

When I first saw Clinton in that black outfit, I "lost it" so badly that it frightened my wife and scared our Rottweiler. Worst case of "hate flash" I've had in more than 20 years.

How could Clinton, and ALL the members of his staff, not know that his black pants suit, worn in Vietnam, would remind at least some of us of our past in SE Asia.

It simply had to be intentional.

What a slap at those who served, at the families who lost loved ones there, at those kids (average age was 19 y/o) who died there.

(I'm starting to breathe heavy again so I'll stop here.
Fill in the blanks as you know I mean them.

)

Bogie · November 20, 2000, 12:04 PM

I'm most definitely _not happy._ Geeze, can't really say much, other than that. Dang, but I'd wager that Gunny Hathcock must have targeted more than a few folks wearing the same garb...

DorGunR · November 20, 2000, 12:10 PM

Dennis,
Do you think he's holding his AK-47 behind his back?
Sure wouldn't surprise me......the SOB.

dZ · November 20, 2000, 12:12 PM

RobertR · November 20, 2000, 12:51 PM

I remember something about Article 15 "flagrant disregard for military bearing". To bad the commander n chief does'nt have to abide by regulations.

Very sickening.

KenPaul · November 20, 2000, 01:11 PM

There was a time when that was called a target! Weapons free, gentleman...

I didn't think I could have a lower opinion of that man. I was wrong.

CMOS · November 20, 2000, 02:18 PM

Dennis, this thread really got my blood pressure up - again.

Sad to say but the Klintons are not done spreading their evil yet. I really don't fully understand why but millions of people will continue to embrace their socialist elitelist drivel.

CMOS

**TheBluesMan** · November 20, 2000, 02:18 PM

In eight years, I've never seen the "man" wear anything but a business suit when abroad. Now, under the guise of normalizing relations with ChiCom-supported Vietnam, he "reaches out" by wearing this garb. There is no doubt in my mind that his outfit was intentional.

This is a fitting farewell to a man whom history will remember as infamous. He turned his back on his country once before when he could have served. He’s now dishonoring those who gave all, fighting a war their government wouldn’t let them win. This burns my ____ beyond belief! This pOTUS is despicable. He is a... He should be... I can’t go on...

Skyhawk · November 20, 2000, 03:11 PM

No doubt about it folks, WJC is one disgusting individual!

Skyhawk

gjwandkids · November 20, 2000, 03:54 PM

I have an Aunt who is Vietnamese and lost her first husband fighting to keep Vietnam out of Communist hands. She doesn't talk about it much, but when she does the hatred she feels for what the Communists did to her country comes out loud and clear with each syllable.

The fact that a sitting President could so blatantly disregard the feelings of those who died for freedom and even revel in the fact that he is a draft dodger makes me sick to my stomach. I am not old enough to have fought in that war but the fact that this Monster is representing our country embarrasses and sickens me.

What in the HELL is going on with this country? Why don't people see where this is leading us?

Pardon me-I need to go to the range and work off some frustration-after I explain to my son why that picture of Clinton made me cry, and after I call my aunt.

Country Boy · November 20, 2000, 05:10 PM

My dad was overseas in VN, and I've read many books about the war, and even though my anger isn't as deep as you vets who were there, I am still thoroughly disgusted with WJC. I dislike making assumptions, but I have no doubt that his attire was chosen knowing full well the meaning behind the "black pajamas". A black shirt and khakis or blue jeans I could accept; dressing like the VC I cannot.

I will leave the rest of my thoughts up to your imagination.

**Antipitas** · November 20, 2000, 05:20 PM

And I thought I was the only one who noticed....

nralife · November 20, 2000, 08:15 PM

Okay, Dennis...

I reposted this on several forums; AR15.com, GlockTalk.com, Subguns.com, and on my forum.

Everybody else, get this picture out to everyone you know. Let them know that it is an outrage, for Klinton, acting in the capacity of a U.S. President, to wear the uniform of the enemy! Especially over the remains of a fallen serviceman!

Joe

**Dennis** · November 20, 2000, 11:01 PM

**pax** · November 20, 2000, 11:37 PM

I sent this picture to an online buddy of mine, a Vietnam vet. The mildest thing he said about it was, "It kinda makes you wish Jack Kevorkian was the White House doctor, don't it?"

pax

"Bill Clinton does not have the moral fiber to be a mass murderer." -- Nobel Peace Prize recipient Dr. Henry Kissinger

AZ · November 21, 2000, 12:50 PM

this is the photo that lit my fire, all i could think was HOW DARE YOU - PUT THAT DOWN NOW !!!!!!!

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...inton_2bb.html

**Dennis** · November 21, 2000, 01:30 PM

I know, AZ. I know.
I just told myself it was part of an airplane, not the airman.

Didn't work.

Last night I was rubbing the sides of my jaw.
My smartypants wife said, "It's a wonder you have any teeth left. Your jaws weren't meant to be locked THAT hard for two days!"

I growled.
She smiled slightly and nodded sympathetically.
I'm a lucky man. She understands.

dZ · November 21, 2000, 02:15 PM

http://www.geocities.com/askel_5/clintonho.jpg
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com.../mdf131860.jpg
http://www.latimes.com/photos/20001120/g49is4ke.jpg

11xray · November 21, 2000, 02:37 PM

Here is a link to many of the pictures all at one place.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a1819ae310d.htm

I have never seen clearer pictures of what, exactly, we are fighting against. I am trying to make sure that every veteran in the United States sees theese pictures.

As an aside, did anyone see Col. David Hackworth on Hannity and Colmes last night? He said he had been getting 2000 e-mails a day from military personnel, and that many of them have been saying "Forget the Boston Tea Party, it's time for The Florida Chad Party!!" I bet that got some peoples attention.

William R. Wilburn · November 21, 2000, 04:29 PM

Dennis,

Your post has caused me personal distress.

I know you are just the messenger, but... well just when you think he will no longer be able to offend those who answered the call and served...

I have to go now.

William

EnochGale · November 21, 2000, 07:03 PM

Well, I'm going to make trouble. All the chest pounding
and wailing is a little too much.

We are currently friends with the land of the Nazis
and the guys who bombed Pearl Harbor.

Nixon visited China whose troops fought ours in Korea.

The Vietnam war is over. We lost. Life goes on.
Visits like this can bring the Vietnamese back
into community of nations. We may even effect
change in their government.

Clinton is a bum, so was Nixon. But it is better
to jaw than war (Churchill) - so get over it.

Sometime we were going to have to deal with the
Vietnamese.

Clinton avoided the draft - so did many Americans.
The Vietnames whooped us.

So, we shouldn't 25 years later have decent relationships.
Is this worse than we brought back our pet Nazis to the US
after WWII?

So I see a lot of emotion but not real politcal savvy
here.

November 19, 2000, 06:13 PM	#3
Johnny Guest Staff Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: North Texas Posts: 3,979	(Choking back other, more pithy comments . . . ) Wonder what the collar devices are? Anyone get a look at a close-up of Clinton in that garb? Johnny __________________ MOLON LABE! Amendment II ensures the rest of the Bill of Rights. Blog: Expert Witness

November 19, 2000, 06:30 PM	#4
Ed Brunner Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1998 Location: Natchez, MS, USA Posts: 2,574	They are probably some variation of the presidential seal of Vietnam. __________________ MOLON LABE UNTIL IT'S OVER! Ed

November 20, 2000, 12:04 PM	#6
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: St. Louis, Misery Posts: 3,763	As a vet... I'm most definitely _not happy._ Geeze, can't really say much, other than that. Dang, but I'd wager that Gunny Hathcock must have targeted more than a few folks wearing the same garb...

November 20, 2000, 12:10 PM	#7
DorGunR Senior Member Join Date: January 13, 2000 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,126	VC Klinton Dennis, Do you think he's holding his AK-47 behind his back? Sure wouldn't surprise me......the SOB. __________________ "Lead, follow or get the HELL out of the way." U.S. Army 1950 - 1972 NRA Life Member Vietnam 1966/67 - 1969/70

November 20, 2000, 12:12 PM	#8
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: the Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,565	A New York Senator's hat

November 18, 2000, 07:05 PM	#1
Dennis Staff Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,095	All, I have a photo for you. Here is the caption for the photo from Reuters: (quote) President Clinton accompanied by Dave Evert (L) and Dan Evert (R), sons of former fighter pilot Captain Lawrence Evert, survey the Joint Task Force-Full Accounting excavation site in the village of Tien Chau, outside of Hanoi November 18, 2000. Clinton visited the site where the team is searching for the remains of Evert, whose fighter plane crashed while on a bombing mission 17 miles northwest of Hanoi on November 8, 1967. (unquote) Before you go to the photo, steel yourselves. Please, maintain decorum on TFL. We do not want to lower ourselves to the level of our President. We want our children to see this and to understand our fury. Look at the President's pants suit. (DC and Rich, thank you for your help in making the photo available for us.) Once you have seen the picture, if you believe it looks like the "black pajamas" of our former adversary, then I would ask that you spread this photo and its caption far and wide. Use the internet to show what our leadership has become to wear something like that over the muddy hole that serves as a grave for a brave American. Note what we could expect from someone such as Vice President Gore - who calls President Clinton as a "dear friend" and mentor. ------- Here’s the full story: (quote) Clinton Arrives in Former South Vietnam Capital November 18, 2000 1:18 pm EST By Arshad Mohammed HO CHI MINH CITY, Vietnam (Reuters) - Bill Clinton arrived in Ho Chi Minh City late Saturday, the first U.S. president since the Vietnam War to visit the city that fell to the communists after American troops pulled out in the 1970s. Clinton will spend a night and day in the former South Vietnamese capital, then known as Saigon. The last U.S. president to visit was Richard Nixon in July 1969, at the height of a war in which more than 58,000 Americans and three million Vietnamese died. Clinton arrived from Hanoi, where he was warmly received as a champion of reconciliation who not only opposed and avoided the war, but ended a punishing trade embargo in 1994, normalized diplomatic ties a year later and pushed through a bilateral market-opening agreement this year. The president, his wife Hillary and daughter Chelsea were met at the city's Tan Son Nhut airport, which was also a U.S. airbase during the war, by officials and children with bouquets of flowers. Thousands of people lined the route of Clinton's motorcade as it drove into the city shortly after midnight. Thousands more, mostly young people on motorbikes, converged on streets near his city-center hotel. They were in a festive mood, with many cheering and waving. "I love Bill Clinton," said one young woman. "Even though he's getting older, he still looks great!" Most of the crowd dispersed when they realized they could not get to the hotel, which was cordoned off by police. MEETING CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP Clinton is due to address business leaders in the city, Vietnam's main commercial hub, and also plans to call on Roman Catholic Archbishop Phan Minh Man to discuss restrictions on religious freedoms. He ends his three-day trip to Vietnam Sunday evening and leaves for Washington. Saigon was renamed Ho Chi Minh City when it fell to the victorious communists in April 1975 and the last U.S. troops and officials were evacuated by helicopter from America's longest and most divisive war. During his trip to Vietnam, Clinton has worked to open a new chapter in U.S.-Vietnam relations and in a keynote speech on Friday in Hanoi acknowledged the suffering on all sides. Saturday, Clinton came face-to-face with the war's painful legacy when he visited a muddy clay field northwest of Hanoi city where workers are searching for a U.S. pilot shot down in 1967. The visibly moved president said the pilot's sons, who joined him at the site, deserved "finally to take their father home." Then at a silent floodlit ceremony at Hanoi's Noi Bai airport before departing for Ho Chi Minh City, Clinton attended a formal repatriation of remains believed to be of three other U.S. servicemen. Earlier, Clinton met Vietnamese children maimed by some of the millions of land mines left over from decades of war with the United States and France. "This is the tragedy of war for which peace provides no answer," Clinton said. He spoke after shaking hands with one of the maimed, a young boy who raised the stump of his left arm and his whole right arm to greet the president. STRESSES IMPORTANCE OF YOUTH He has stressed the importance of the younger generation in Vietnam, where 60 percent of people have been born since the war, in building a prosperous future. In Ho Chi Minh city, Clinton is to meet young people active in journalism and non-governmental service, and to visit a computerized container shipping terminal -- a location chosen to call attention to the trade agreement and the need for increased economic openness. Ho Chi Minh City never quite lost its business flair despite attempts to impose hard-line central planning after 1975, and has led the country economically since the communist leadership in Hanoi embarked on market-orientated reforms in 1986. Pham Khanh Lynh, a 30-year-old former hotel manager who is typical of a new breed of entrepreneurs in the city, said Clinton's visit should provide a boost for business. "It's a good chance for the world to take another look at Vietnam," he said "We want to show that we welcome everyone in Vietnam and Mr. Clinton is an example." Lynh runs the city's Indexx Cafe, which acted as an unofficial stock market before Vietnam opened its first fledgling securities exchange in July. (unquote) [Edited by Dennis on 11-18-2000 at 08:43 PM]

November 18, 2000, 07:30 PM	#2
Sodbuster Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 1999 Location: Gallatin Co MT Posts: 1,129	He looks like a....socialist. As does the blonde in sunglasses behind him. Widest possible dissemination is indicated.

November 20, 2000, 12:00 PM	#5
Dennis Staff Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,095	When I first saw Clinton in that black outfit, I "lost it" so badly that it frightened my wife and scared our Rottweiler. Worst case of "hate flash" I've had in more than 20 years. How could Clinton, and ALL the members of his staff, not know that his black pants suit, worn in Vietnam, would remind at least some of us of our past in SE Asia. It simply had to be intentional. What a slap at those who served, at the families who lost loved ones there, at those kids (average age was 19 y/o) who died there. (I'm starting to breathe heavy again so I'll stop here. Fill in the blanks as you know I mean them. )

November 20, 2000, 12:51 PM	#9
RobertR Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2000 Location: Littleton, Colorado, USA Posts: 192	I remember something about Article 15 "flagrant disregard for military bearing". To bad the commander n chief does'nt have to abide by regulations. Very sickening.

November 20, 2000, 01:11 PM	#10
KenPaul Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2000 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 205	There was a time when that was called a target! Weapons free, gentleman... I didn't think I could have a lower opinion of that man. I was wrong.

November 20, 2000, 02:18 PM	#11
CMOS Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 1999 Location: TEXAS Posts: 1,419	Dennis, this thread really got my blood pressure up - again. Sad to say but the Klintons are not done spreading their evil yet. I really don't fully understand why but millions of people will continue to embrace their socialist elitelist drivel. CMOS __________________ There's plenty of room on Earth for all of God's animals. Right next to the wine and mashed potatoes . . .

November 20, 2000, 02:18 PM	#12
TheBluesMan Staff Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,566	In eight years, I've never seen the "man" wear anything but a business suit when abroad. Now, under the guise of normalizing relations with ChiCom-supported Vietnam, he "reaches out" by wearing this garb. There is no doubt in my mind that his outfit was intentional. This is a fitting farewell to a man whom history will remember as infamous. He turned his back on his country once before when he could have served. He’s now dishonoring those who gave all, fighting a war their government wouldn’t let them win. This burns my ____ beyond belief! This pOTUS is despicable. He is a... He should be... I can’t go on...

November 20, 2000, 03:11 PM	#13
Skyhawk Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2000 Posts: 619	No doubt about it folks, WJC is one disgusting individual! Skyhawk

November 20, 2000, 03:54 PM	#14
gjwandkids Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2000 Posts: 248	I have an Aunt who is Vietnamese and lost her first husband fighting to keep Vietnam out of Communist hands. She doesn't talk about it much, but when she does the hatred she feels for what the Communists did to her country comes out loud and clear with each syllable. The fact that a sitting President could so blatantly disregard the feelings of those who died for freedom and even revel in the fact that he is a draft dodger makes me sick to my stomach. I am not old enough to have fought in that war but the fact that this Monster is representing our country embarrasses and sickens me. What in the HELL is going on with this country? Why don't people see where this is leading us? Pardon me-I need to go to the range and work off some frustration-after I explain to my son why that picture of Clinton made me cry, and after I call my aunt.

November 20, 2000, 05:10 PM	#15
Country Boy Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2000 Location: Sorry, OPSEC Posts: 698	My dad was overseas in VN, and I've read many books about the war, and even though my anger isn't as deep as you vets who were there, I am still thoroughly disgusted with WJC. I dislike making assumptions, but I have no doubt that his attire was chosen knowing full well the meaning behind the "black pajamas". A black shirt and khakis or blue jeans I could accept; dressing like the VC I cannot. I will leave the rest of my thoughts up to your imagination.

November 20, 2000, 05:20 PM	#16
Antipitas Staff Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 5,664	And I thought I was the only one who noticed....

November 20, 2000, 08:15 PM	#17
nralife Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 1999 Location: The Lone Star State Posts: 1,239	Okay, Dennis... I reposted this on several forums; AR15.com, GlockTalk.com, Subguns.com, and on my forum. Everybody else, get this picture out to everyone you know. Let them know that it is an outrage, for Klinton, acting in the capacity of a U.S. President, to wear the uniform of the enemy! Especially over the remains of a fallen serviceman! Joe __________________ Molon labe!

November 20, 2000, 11:01 PM	#18
Dennis Staff Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,095	Thanks, Joe. ----- Apparently some Democrats can not believe the photo of President Clinton. I got the photo from iWon which, at the moment, is not available. However, for those who believe this photo is a fake, I have several suggestions - of which this one applies to the photo. Go to: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/tx/ts/summary.html Select search for “photos” Insert keywords Clinton Vietnam To save some effort for doubters, try the following few urls. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20...mdf132206.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_3hq.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...inton_2bb.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...inton_7ct.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20...imdf45570.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20...imdf45568.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20...imdf45569.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_mcw.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_1co.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_nbn.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_4zn.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_gnl.html Here are some of our President, a ho under Ho http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_azm.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_6w4.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20...imdf44562.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_lqy.html And freebies: Pictures of the Senator-elect from New York and her offspring. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_09f.html http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...etnam_csi.html

November 20, 2000, 11:37 PM	#19
pax Staff Join Date: May 16, 2000 Location: Washington state Posts: 4,626	I sent this picture to an online buddy of mine, a Vietnam vet. The mildest thing he said about it was, "It kinda makes you wish Jack Kevorkian was the White House doctor, don't it?" pax "Bill Clinton does not have the moral fiber to be a mass murderer." -- Nobel Peace Prize recipient Dr. Henry Kissinger

November 21, 2000, 12:50 PM	#20
AZ Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2000 Location: S.W. - AZ. Posts: 204	How Dare He Do This !!!!!!!!!!! this is the photo that lit my fire, all i could think was HOW DARE YOU - PUT THAT DOWN NOW !!!!!!! http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20...inton_2bb.html

November 21, 2000, 01:30 PM	#21
Dennis Staff Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,095	I know, AZ. I know. I just told myself it was part of an airplane, not the airman. Didn't work. Last night I was rubbing the sides of my jaw. My smartypants wife said, "It's a wonder you have any teeth left. Your jaws weren't meant to be locked THAT hard for two days!" I growled. She smiled slightly and nodded sympathetically. I'm a lucky man. She understands.

November 21, 2000, 02:15 PM	#22
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: the Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,565	more pictures of our leader http://www.geocities.com/askel_5/clintonho.jpg http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com.../mdf131860.jpg http://www.latimes.com/photos/20001120/g49is4ke.jpg

November 21, 2000, 02:37 PM	#23
11xray Member Join Date: February 3, 2000 Posts: 83	Here is a link to many of the pictures all at one place. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a1819ae310d.htm I have never seen clearer pictures of what, exactly, we are fighting against. I am trying to make sure that every veteran in the United States sees theese pictures. As an aside, did anyone see Col. David Hackworth on Hannity and Colmes last night? He said he had been getting 2000 e-mails a day from military personnel, and that many of them have been saying "Forget the Boston Tea Party, it's time for The Florida Chad Party!!" I bet that got some peoples attention. __________________ Audemus jura nostra defendere

November 21, 2000, 04:29 PM	#24
William R. Wilburn Senior Member Join Date: March 27, 2000 Posts: 194	Dennis, Your post has caused me personal distress. I know you are just the messenger, but... well just when you think he will no longer be able to offend those who answered the call and served... I have to go now. William

November 21, 2000, 07:03 PM	#25
EnochGale Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2000 Location: southwest Posts: 825	Well, I'm going to make trouble. All the chest pounding and wailing is a little too much. We are currently friends with the land of the Nazis and the guys who bombed Pearl Harbor. Nixon visited China whose troops fought ours in Korea. The Vietnam war is over. We lost. Life goes on. Visits like this can bring the Vietnamese back into community of nations. We may even effect change in their government. Clinton is a bum, so was Nixon. But it is better to jaw than war (Churchill) - so get over it. Sometime we were going to have to deal with the Vietnamese. Clinton avoided the draft - so did many Americans. The Vietnames whooped us. So, we shouldn't 25 years later have decent relationships. Is this worse than we brought back our pet Nazis to the US after WWII? So I see a lot of emotion but not real politcal savvy here.