NYT: The Big, Bad, Fun Gun (long)

[dZ]

http://www.nytimes.com/library/magaz...mag-rifle.html

The Big, Bad, Fun Gun

The .50-caliber sniper rifle can blow a hole through an armored car. You call
that recreational? By BRUCE PORTER



Long Shot: A 54-inch .50-caliber rifle costs about $5,000. Photograph by Dan Forbes
for The New York Times.

The Black Rock Desert, about 100 miles north of Reno, Nev., gets its name from lava
rocks the size of soccer balls that litter the desert floor. It is a vast and mountainous
region, and few people venture here without a purpose. Mine was to join three guys
trying to hit a rock, from two miles away, with a .50-caliber sniper rifle, the most powerful
gun you can buy.

When I arrived, the shooting party was camped near Crutcher's Spring, so named for a
dribble of water that sustains the few local range cattle and the feral mustangs in the hills.
Shooting benches with guns chocked on them had been set out in a line, and a camper's
awning was pulled out to provide shelter from the 110-degree sun. Sitting at the head of the
valley, 3,500 yards away, was a pockmarked lava rock, 15 feet high and 12 feet across. The
next morning, at first light, we planned on cutting loose at that rock. "I'm not standing here
telling you no one else in the world has ever shot two miles and hit what he aimed at," said
Skip Talbot, 58, a short, wiry man from Fallon, Nev., just east of Reno. "We're just not aware
of anyone else who's ever done what we're doing."

Talbot has pursued a variety of endeavors over the years -- broncobusting in New Mexico,
ranching in Arizona, outboard motorboat racing in California. But he made his mark in target
shooting, where he set the 200-yard record with the .44-magnum pistol, Dirty Harry's weapon
of choice. The pistol has such a fierce recoil that after about 30,000 rounds the tendons in
Talbot's right hand collapsed. So he moved on to the .50-caliber rifle, and in April 1999 set
the world record at 1,000 yards, putting five rounds together in a space 2.6 inches across.

Standing in the shade of the awning, Talbot explained
in his taut Western twang that early morning is the best
time for long-distance shooting in the desert. "The
desert has cooled off and the sun almost wants to clear
that hill over there so it illuminates the target," he said.
"The first rush of wind comes in, but then it suddenly
goes quiet, so you get maybe 45 minutes of the sweetest conditions you can possibly
imagine."

When it comes to the .50-caliber rifle, Talbot's view of things in the Black Rock
Desert is considerably more positive than the view of many in Washington, D.C.
There, antigun activists have been trying to get the weapon recognized as a threat
to national security and, consequently, banned from general circulation. The main reason for
concern is the sheer power of the cartridge it fires -- the Browning machine gun round.
Developed to penetrate German armor during World War I, the cartridge wasn't really used
until World War II, when it served as standard ammo for the heavy M2 belt-fed machine
guns. Nearly half a foot long and weighing about a third of a pound, the cartridge is five times
the size of the high-power .30-06. Fired from single-shot or semiautomatic rifles, it exits the
muzzle at about 3,000 feet per second, has an effective range of 7,500 yards -- or more than
four miles -- and at interim distances can do a stupendous amount of damage.

Last year, an instructor at the Marine Corps Scout Sniper School at Quantico, Va.,
demonstrated the weapon's firepower for staff members of the House Subcommittee on
Government Reform. Firing at 200 yards, he put a .50-caliber bullet clear through the
one-inch rolled steel used on most armored military vehicles, then through a
three-and-a-half-inch-thick cast-iron manhole cover, and finally through a piece of
three-quarter-inch bullet-resistant glass. Using a semiautomatic rifle, he also fired 10 rounds
in rapid succession completely through a 600-pound safe. As Maj. John L. Plaster, Army
Reserve, retired, wrote in "The Ultimate Sniper," a bible of sorts for would-be soldiers of
fortune, "How can anyone exaggerate .50-caliber performance?" The major goes on to tell of
a man from Michigan who fired his own .50-caliber ammo at simulated wooden frame houses
and found they blew completely through six of them. "Not six walls," Plaster emphasizes,
"six houses."

In recent years, largely because of the awestruck attention
paid to the .50-caliber by gun magazines, acquiring the
weapon has taken on the nature of a cult quest. The critical
event in this regard occurred in 1991, when the Barrett
Firearms Manufacturing company of Murfreesboro, Tenn.,
a major manufacturer of .50-caliber rifles, sold 100 of its
Model 82A1 semiautomatics to the Marines for use in the
gulf war. There, the gun achieved a mythic reputation. In
one trumpeted account, Sgt. Kenneth Terry of the Third
Battalion, First Marines, is said to have disabled an Iraqi armored personnel carrier from just
under a mile away with two incendiary rounds fired from a Barrett, terrifying the occupants of
two other vehicles in the column into promptly surrendering. After the war, sales of the gun,
which is now being manufactured by about a dozen companies, increased from a handful a
year to the point where an estimated 20,000 are now in the possession of . . . well, nobody
really knows who.

The reason the owners of these weapons are unknown is that the .50-cal, despite its awesome
power, is no more difficult to obtain than a .22-caliber squirrel rifle. Anyone at least 18 years
old can walk into a gun shop, place an order for the weapon and, when it arrives a few days
later, carry it out of the store. He need only pass the federal Brady test, required for the
purchase of any rifle, which asks among other things whether the purchaser has ever been
arrested for a felony or committed against his will to a mental institution. The federal records
are then destroyed, preserving the gun owner's anonymity.

For those in the national security business, this is a full-blown nightmare. "I may have a bias
toward security," says Eljay Bowron, director of the Secret Service from 1993 to 1997, "but I
think the public needs a certain amount of protection from people who aren't responsible and
who aren't necessarily balanced from having such easy access to stuff that is so deadly from
such a great distance." In protecting public officials, Bowron says, the standard procedure is
to examine locations where someone with a rifle could pose a threat -- bridge overpasses,
rooftops, windows. "But we're not looking at two miles away," he adds. "And normally you're
relatively secure when you're out of sight. You say, 'Well, we'll just go around the corner of
this building.' But this is a weapon that can shoot right through the corner of the building."

In 1993, it was the .50-caliber Barretts possessed by the Branch Davidians that influenced the
F.B.I.'s decision to launch a military-style siege of the Waco compound, using Bradley
fighting vehicles borrowed from the Army. "We got varying reports from the Army about the
B.F.V.," says Chris Whitcomb, an agent on duty for the hostage rescue team. "Some said,
'Yes, it can take a .50-caliber,' and some said, 'Well, we don't think it can.' "The bureau wasn't
about to find out for itself.

To provide the federal government with information about who, exactly, is in
possession of this weapon, two identical bills were introduced last year in both houses
of Congress, by Representative Henry A. Waxman of California and Representative
Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois, and by Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, all Democrats.
They argued that the .50-caliber should be regulated under the National Firearms Act of 1934,
which controls the sale of machine guns, mortars, cannons, flamethrowers and other military
hardware. The act doesn't ban sales to civilians, but it requires a one-time $200 tax, and the
prospective owner must get approval from the local police chief or sheriff and register the
weapon with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. So far, neither bill has moved an
inch out of committee. "It seems crazy to have things like this out there with the potential
threat they pose," Waxman says. "But the agenda is controlled by the majority, and so far
they've demonstrated no inclination to do anything."

To get a sense of who it is that owns this gun, I spent part of last summer going to places
where it was likely to turn up. My first stop was the Hiram Maxim Machine Gun Shoot,
which is held every July in a rented gravel pit three miles south of Dover-Foxcroft, Me. The
three-day festival honors the inventor of the machine gun used in World War I, and
resembles a large flea market cloaked in olive drab. Army tents were bursting at the seams
with machine guns, rifles, pistols and shotguns for sale, as well as a plethora of ammo, gun
parts and bayonets. Political-action booths promoted the Second Amendment, one displaying
a poster that showed an American soldier shooting at a body, draped with the American flag,
that lay dead on the ground. The caption read: "Your Future Under Gun Control."

But the real action was up on the firing line. About 200 men and a handful of women were
preparing to decimate five automobiles, along with some porcelain toilets stacked one on the
other. Even with ear protectors, the roar was deafening when the shooting commenced. People
were blazing away with AK-47's and Uzis and tommy guns and Chinese assault weapons
with barrel clips. Others were frantically belt-feeding ammo into their voracious Browning
.30-caliber light machine guns, set up on chest-high tripods. Someone was even grinding out
rounds with a replicated old Gatling gun, until it exploded on Day 2 of the event, making a
mess of the owner's inner thigh.

Above the racket, occasionally and very distinctly, there occurred a single BOOM. This was
the .50-cal. I'd been warned about its noise on the drive up by a gun-shop owner in
Brunswick, Me. He told me of a man who permanently lost hearing on one side when a friend
demonstrated a .50 for him but neglected to tell him to put his fingers in his ears. Keeping
that in mind, I walked up onto a little rise to observe the .50 in action. Its owner was a forklift
repairman from Bangor named Paul Raysik, whose .50 was a scoped, single-shot model
purchased for $2,000 from the State Arms Gun Company of Waunakee, Wis. He had set it
up with a bipod on a ground tarp, next to the two-and-a-half-ton Army truck he bought a
couple of years ago and painted desert camouflage to mark its use in the gulf war.

On top of the windshield of the truck, he had mounted a Browning light machine gun, so he
could riddle the cars from his driver's seat and then climb down and open up with the .50 on
the ground. Using the .50, Raysik had already single-handedly set two of the vehicles on fire
by shooting blazing tracer ammo into the flammable plastic upholstery. "Other guys, with the
machine guns, were trying to do that, too, but they were going all over the place," he told me.
"I put the rounds right where you need to."

To the rear of the firing line was a booth manned by Frank Watson, a gun collector from
West Virginia. Watson was selling specially made .50 barrels manufactured by a gun maker
in Michigan. One advantage of this barrel was that it was relatively cheap, $1,095 as opposed
to $3,000 to $7,000 for one of the Barretts. The other great advantage was that you could buy
one and thus own a .50 without having to undergo the pesky Brady check. What Watson was
selling, technically, was an "upper," which had been machined so that it could receive the
contours of a .50 cartridge. You purchased this upper, then fitted it onto a "lower," the pistol
grip and trigger assembly for an AR-15, which fires a bullet not much bigger than a .22. To
buy your AR-15, you would have already

passed a Brady test, but switching barrels is considered simply a minor adjustment, and
needn't concern the U.S. Government. "It's extremely accurate," Frank told prospective
customers, "and you don't have to go through any paperwork to purchase it."

Watson hails from north central West Virginia, where he takes his .50 out to hunt deer and
woodchucks. "I like to sit up on a high hill," he said, "where you can see 1,000 to 1,200 yards,
put up a shooting bench with a bipod and spotting scope, and when I see what I want, I pop
it." He got his last deer at 900 yards, more than half a mile away, and he caught him head-on
in the chest. The bullet he used was a special incendiary round with a primer inside that goes
off in soft material, causing the casing to come apart in the body. "It was kind of an
experimental thing," Watson said. "I just wanted to know what it would do to a deer. The one
I shot, it went through the whole body from the chest and hit the right hind leg and almost
totally destroyed it. But there was plenty still left to eat." I asked Watson why he went
hunting with a .50 when a lesser caliber would do the job, and he said it was because of the
adrenaline rush he got just from firing it. "It's something you do in contrast to what you do
every other day of your existence." To drive home his point, he added: "I tell you what, let's
make it easy. Want to shoot one?"

Watson's gun was big and black and weighed 37 pounds, as opposed to the 9 pounds of the
average big-game rifle. It's the barrel on .50's that accounts for their added weight; the gun
needs extra-thick steel to accommodate the large explosion. The rifle was also five and a half
feet long, too unwieldy to carry horizontally like a normal gun; instead, you walked with it
poking up in the air, which was how people could tell when a .50 was coming onto the line.

It had been raining, and the shooting mats were wet and muddy; tens of thousands of casings
covered the ground. I lay down on the mat and set the gun up on its bipod, shoved a cartridge
into the chamber and closed the bolt. The .50 is all steel and carbon fiber, and has none of the
smooth, oiled walnut that I remembered from old hunting experiences. Watson hadn't put the
scope on this one, so I looked down the length of the barrel and used a little metal spur as a
sight. By now the target vehicles were all charred and black, and seemed to have more holes in
them than metal. This hadn't stopped the shooters on the line, though; to my left and right
they were enfilading like mad, as if they were about to be overrun by enemy hordes.

I shoved the butt of Watson's .50 tight into my shoulder and aimed at a brake drum, still
intact. I took a deep breath and put some pressure on the trigger. BLAAM.

The noise, despite extra Styrofoam stuffed into my ear protectors, was painfully loud, and the
recoil shoved me backward, even as I lay on the ground. The concussion from gases thrown
out by the muzzle break at the end of the barrel enveloped me in a strange, unfriendly blast of
air. I felt as if I had survived something, but I wasn't quite sure what. As for my target, I really
couldn't say. The brake drum stood there, defiant. With all the other damage, I couldn't tell
what, if anything, I'd hit. And besides, my eyes had been closed when I shot.

Now that I'd fired the .50, I wanted to find out for for myself just what it could do,
penetration-wise. I'd met a man at the shoot named John Campbell, who runs a painting and
decorating business in western Massachusetts. Campbell said he owned a single-shot .50 and
offered to take me to a private spot, as long as I promised not to reveal its whereabouts and to
provide the steel plate and ammunition.

The steel wasn't hard to come by. A friend who is a sculptor cut me a piece of
three-quarter-inch from his welding stock, and at a scrap yard on 27th Street in Manhattan I
bought a slab of hot-rolled steel, one and a half inches thick. The piece weighed 60 pounds,
and the guys cutting it up scoffed at the idea that any rifle bullet could get through something
that thick.

Acquiring the ammo proved just as easy. Campbell thought we should try both armor
piercing rounds (A.P.) and armor piercing incendiary (A.P.I.), which are tipped with
phosphorous that explodes on impact and burns at 3,000 degrees. The bullet will touch off
most any fuel it encounters, and if shot into a tree it will set the tree on fire. I'd already bought
a few A.P.I. rounds at the shoot (it turns out that it's a Class A misdemeanor to bring them
into New York State), so I ordered 60 rounds of straight A.P. from an ammo company in
Phoenix. The clerk on the telephone asked me if there was any law in New York that
prohibited me from receiving the shipment. None that I knew about, I told her. She said they
had Israeli A.P. stock and also American stuff, which was cleaner. I told her I'd take the
American, she took my credit card number and 12 hours later it arrived via Federal Express.

In the political debate over the .50, the easy availability of armor-piercing ammo worries
antigun activists as much as the guns. Last year, when Representative Waxman's
subcommittee was looking into the situation, he asked the special investigations unit of the
Government Accounting Office to make some bogus calls to ammunition dealers to see what
they were willing to ship out, and to whom. Here is an excerpt from the transcript of one
conversation with a dealer from Nebraska:

G.A.O.: O.K., let me ask you this now. This ammo will go through, say, metal, won't it?

Dealer: Uh, yeah, it'll go through metal. Yeah, it's incendiary. . . .

G.A.O.: O.K., do you think it will go through, like, an armored limousine?

Dealer: Oh, well, I think it would (laughing).

G.A.O.: How about, like, bulletproof glass?

Dealer: Oh, yeah, it'll go through that.

G.A.O.: O.K. Now, I live on the East Coast. Can you send that to me?

Dealer: Uh, yeah, we ship to the East Coast. Whereabouts do you live?

G.A.O.: O.K., I live in Virginia, but I'd like it shipped to Washington, D.C. . . .

Dealer: O.K.

When Campbell and I arrived at the secret range, it was drizzling slightly as we set the slabs
of steel into a dirt bank (he'd also brought along a 15-inch-square piece of 2-inch hot-rolled
steel that must have weighed 90 pounds), and we mounted his .50 on a shooting bench 100
yards away.

We fired the A.P. first, into each of the three targets, then walked up to examine the damage.
The bullet had ripped through the sculptor's piece of three-quarter-inch steel as if it were
cardboard. It did the same with the one-and-a-half-inch rolled steel, hitting it with such force
that it blew the flanges of the hole back toward us, rather than out the other side. The two-inch
plate, however, finally stopped it. The A.P. round blasted through to within a quarter-inch of
the far side, where it caused a bump-out, but then flagged. The two-incher also stood up to the
incendiary ammo, which made a hole with a dark burn mark, but couldn't get through.

"Well, it's an impressive caliber," Campbell announced solemnly at the end of the shoot. "But
what we did here dispels one of the inaccuracies about the gun. People say it will go through
a tank. It won't go through a tank. We know that now."

Campbell had etched the letters RKBA into his gun, for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, a
right he believes is under assault. The .50 owners I met share his point of view. As Randy
Dierks, a 41-year-old gunsmith near Reno, Nev., put it, "My wife and I meet people when we
travel, and when they ask what we do, and we say we build guns, well, they sometimes get up
and leave the table." Dierks went on about how people in metropolitan areas don't understand
guns. "The soccer moms of Bethesda, Md.," he said, "they're the ones who are making
decisions about my rights."

As we rolled out of our bags at 5 a.m. in Nevada's Black Rock Desert, it wasn't so hard
to empathize with Dierks. The sand had drunk up the night's rain as if not a drop had
fallen. We were surrounded by silence and a lunar beauty; urban pressures seemed
impossibly far off. Aside from Dead-Eye Skip Talbot, the others here for the two-mile shoot
were John Burtt, 55, a retired burglary detective from Riverside, Calif., and a lobbyist for the
.50-Caliber Shooter's Association, and Roy Douglas, 68, a retired water resource expert from
Palestine, Tex. Their guns were match-grade rifles, locked down in vises to prevent lateral
movement but allowing them to move from front to back with the recoil. Match .50's weigh up
to 125 pounds, owing to an even thicker-than-usual barrel. The heavier the barrel, the less it
wavers when the bullet goes through it, and the straighter it shoots.


Actual Size: The .50's bullets are six inches long and have a range of four miles.
Photograph by Dan Forbes for The New York Times.

At 6 a.m., things happened just as Talbot predicted: first, the little breeze, then dead calm as
the sun began peeking over the ridge. Burtt went up to the line first, and the rest of us
prepared to watch through our spotting scopes. Once the gun goes off, the bullet takes exactly
seven seconds to reach the target, which is when you look for sand kicking up or for
fragments splintering off the rock face.

"I'm hot," said Burtt, signaling that he was within two or three seconds of firing. Then:
BLAAM. Seven seconds later, on the dot, a little divot flew up about 70 yards to the lower left
of the rock, at about 8 o'clock. His second shot was closer, his third low but directly on line.
Burtt adjusted the elevation, then asked if I wanted to give his gun a try.

Through the 17-power scope I could see the lava rock wavering slightly in the oncoming
desert heat. I cranked up the dot so it settled about two-thirds up the rock. "I'm hot," I
announced, and then fired. Again that tremendous report, and a huge flame shot out
horizontally from the gas break. I began counting . . . thousand six, thousand seven, my eye
to the scope. There -- a little puff on the rock face itself. Score! Cheers went up from the guys
watching through their spotting scopes. Even though they'd set me up for it, I felt a surge of
triumph at actually hitting the thing. I mean, two miles!

Whatever fun they have in the desert, the .50-cal crowd feels a little beleaguered when they
return to civilization. As a lobbyist for the .50-Cal Association, Burtt travels to Washington
once a month to fight efforts to restrict access to the gun. Back in California, however, Burtt
sometimes finds himself on the defensive. At a lunch following the desert shoot, he let a
certain plaintiveness seep into his standard rap about gun owners' rights. "We are responsible,
intelligent, educated people, and what we are doing is absolutely harmless," he said. "We
aren't hurting anyone. We have a sport we enjoy, and all we are trying to do is enjoy our sport
and to be left alone."

Skip Talbot, on the other hand, is more calamity-ready, and
he confronts the gun-control issue, and everything else,
with the attitude of Be Prepared. In his attache case, along
with insulin paraphernalia for his diabetes, he keeps copies
of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and an
N.R.A. handbook on how to win arguments concerning the
Second Amendment. Back in Fallon, he and his wife live in
a neatly furnished bungalow that sits under cottonwoods on
a pretty acre of lawn. In case of an emergency -- anything
from a temporary blackout to a nuclear attack by Islamic
extremists -- he's ready, with a spare 5,000-kilowatt generator and eight months' worth of
food and water stored underground.

The crisis Talbot envisions most vividly involves the U.S. government, which he regards as an
unfriendly foreign power. He imagines a time when the president, for any number of reasons,
declares martial law and suspends all forms of civil rights. "If that happens," he says, "it's the
Federal Emergency Management Administration that runs it all. Go back through and look at
what they can really do, what's in the fine print. If FEMA comes in, they can split your family
up and take all your food and your cars and put you to work anywhere they want to."

Whatever they do, they should stay clear of Talbot's gun shed. He has a dozen .50's locked
up in metal cabinets, along with dozens of rifles, shotguns and pistols. Except for the .50's, he
keeps everything loaded. "The only time you get hurt is with an 'unloaded' gun," he said. "So
if all my guns are loaded, I'll never treat one like it isn't. The other reason is, if I ever find
anyone in my shop, I'm going to do my best to kill him, because I'll know that everything he's
got is loaded."

Despite what he says, it's hard to spend time with Talbot and imagine him hurting anyone.
And standing there in his gun shed, I found myself thinking that sniping at rocks in the desert
or decimating cars in Maine is a pretty harmless form of recreation, nothing other than a
highly organized and thoroughly regimented hobby. But then I considered all the firepower
under his roof, enough to arm a small band of rebels with some very destructive weaponry.
And no matter how soccer mom-ish it might seem, I think I'd just as soon the F.B.I. or the
Secret Service knew a little more than they know today about who it is exactly who has
possession of all this stuff.


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November 26, 2000

[Rmf33]

dz,
I had heard of this article, glad that you posted it. Sure
wish I afford to play with one Seems as if Mr. Porter is a tad, shall we say, anti-gun.
Bob

[Dave R]

A couple of inaccuracies I noted:

1) "an estimated 20,000 are now in the possession of . . . well, nobody really knows who. The reason the owners of these weapons are unknown is that the .50-cal, despite its awesome
power, is no more difficult to obtain than a .22-caliber squirrel rifle. Anyone at least 18 years
old can walk into a gun shop, place an order for the weapon and, when it arrives a few days
later, carry it out of the store. He need only pass the federal Brady test, required for the
purchase of any rifle, which asks among other things whether the purchaser has ever been
arrested for a felony or committed against his will to a mental institution. The federal records
are then destroyed, preserving the gun owner's anonymity. "

My understanding is that the Federal records are NOT being destroyed. The Justice department found a loophole that allows them to retain the records for an unspecified length of time to make sure the guns involved are not used in a crime. So they are now holding on to all records. Can anyone verify?

2) "But this is a weapon that can shoot right through the corner of the building." (Speaking of the potential for a sniper to shoot right through the corner of a building)

Possibly, but any accuracy would be destroyed.

[scud]

There is so much psychological propaganda in that article that it would take forever to list it all. Some highlights:

Talbot explained in his taut Western twang = uneducated redneck

this is a full-blown nightmare = common sense legislation


Despite what he says, it's hard to spend time with Talbot and imagine him hurting anyone. &
And no matter how soccer mom-ish it might seem, I think I'd just as soon the F.B.I. or the
Secret Service knew a little more than they know today about who it is exactly who has
possession of all this stuff. = Those gun nuts may sound like they are regular people but they are dangerous and the goverment needs to take more action, and even though you may have been wondering if they are telling the truth I have spent time with them and can assure you they are a threat to your safety.

Not to mention the staggering amount of 18 year olds buying Barrett light 50's and using them in drive by's.

There is real thought put into these reports, this isn't off the top of the head liberal BS like you would hear out of the mouth of a MMMer. They deliberately determine the best psychological angle for the propaganda they are distributing and methodically implement it.

All the cliches are there too:

"...despite their awesome power, they are no more difficult to obtain than..." Remember that phrase.

"...blazing away with AK-47s and Uzis and Chinese assault weapons..."

And the best one, "The .50 is all steel and carbon fiber, and has none of the smooth, oiled walnut that I remembered from old hunting experiences." This is nothing more than the now classic, "Hey - I'm a sportsman, so I oughta know. I was even an NRA member once, before they went off the deep end..." Remember "duck hunter" Slick Willy using this one?

[Rmf33]

Jeff,CA
I remember Klinton telling us he would not take away our
duck hunting RIFLES
Bob

[ds1973]

Just another article designed to stir up panic in the herds of sheeple while trying to look "open minded", "objective" and "fair". What total B.S. If I had the money, I'd go out and buy a .50 in a minute just because that moron doesn't want me to have one!

[ctdonath]

the .50-cal, despite its awesome power, is no more difficult to obtain than a .22-caliber squirrel rifle

...never mind that it costs about TWO ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE, and that most people who want them are on YEAR-LONG WAITING LISTS, and that ammo costs at least SEVENTY-FIVE TIMES AS MUCH.

(Preachin' to the choir, I know. Just gonna pop if I didn't say it.)

[BobR]

"I told her I'd take the American, she took my credit card number and 12 hours later it arrived via Federal Express."

I wish I could get that kind of service from FedEx, UPS, or even the newspaper when they miss delivery. And this was from Phoenix to New York!!

[papercut]

My understanding is that the Federal records are NOT being destroyed. The Justice department found a loophole that allows them to retain the records for an unspecified length of time to make sure the guns involved are not used in a crime. So they are now holding on to all records. Can anyone verify?

The dealer is required to keep the original records of the sale forever, including the ATF form 4473 (that lovely puke yellow form) that all firearms purchasers must fill out. If the dealer closes up or otherwise goes out of business, then he must send all of the paperwork to the ATF for "storage."

It is my understanding (but I can't show you where in the legal code) that destroying the forms would be a felony.

As I read the article, I kept wondering where the reported said he filled out the 4473 form. Does anyone know if that form is not required for .50 purchases? If it is required, then either the dealer committed a felony, or the reporter lied (in which case we all need to write the New York Slime and tell the editors that their reporter tells fibs).

[navaho]

Papercut, per the GCA '68, a 4473 is required for all firearms purchases. In other words, the reporter lied.

One BIG QUESTION that the reporter didn't address is: what good is it knowing who bought 50's? This isn't going to make policitans safer. Unless they sent a JBT to each of those owners's homes when Queen Hillary is in town, to make sure that the 50-owner isn't setting up to whack Hillary.

BTW, the slimy reporter also lied about the 50's being untraceable. Like any other firearm, a forward trace is always possible. The JBT's go to the manufacturers, and find out which s/n firearms went to which distributors. The JBT's then go to the distributors, and forward trace to the dealers. The dealers have the 4473's, which show who bought what.

If those few states that allow private sales, the JBT's will be "stuck" with the first guy who filled out the 4473. But after they do a no-knock raid on his house at 4:00am and employ a few of their intimidation tactics, the guy is more than willing to give the JBT's the copy of the informal receipt he kept from the individual sale.

If the guy didn't have the foresight to write down the buyer's driver's license #, name, etc., oh well. Now he gets to go to the Big House instead.

After all, it's not about fighting crime. It's about making people too afraid to exercise their 2nd amendment rights.

Of course, the reporter forgot to mention that the 2nd amendment wasn't created to save duck hunting or other non-threatening recreational firearms hobbies....