Brolin Arms Ithaca copy?

SpoiledBySig · January 24, 2001, 01:46 PM

I was checking out my ShotGun News, and saw an irresistable ad for a "Brolin Arms" Synthetic stocked, 12 gauge, bottom ejectin', Parkerized( very much like an Ithaca 37 deerslayer).

The price is $119.00...very enticing, except I need to know "what's the catch?". What I mean, is this shotgun made in Communist China or by some other "hard working indigenous peoples republic of( You name the 3rd world country), who someday plan to take us over economically, then physically??

I checked out sites for Brolin Arms......it's "Web-site ( if you want to call it that) just has there name and Kalifornica address.............no gun listings, no gun pictures, no gun prices.

Perhaps you (Dave McC) might know something about this company or shotgun...is it Chinese?....is it Russian?

I'd really want to know!.......Thanks in advance!

9mmepiphany · January 24, 2001, 06:44 PM

it is a chinese copy of the ithaca 37, very nice too.

i got mine about a year ago from century arms so this might be the next generation. mine was blued and came with wood furniture. sounds like they've upgraded

it with a parkerized finish and synthetic stock

the only disapointment was that it came with a full choke and marked "not for use with steel shot" which leaves me to believe it might be a little soft.

i had a shotgun lover look at mine and he said it looked just like his real 37...down to the weakness, over time, in headspacing. i figured for <$100 its a cute yard gun.

Romulus · January 25, 2001, 03:55 PM

Headspace weakness? Is this something model '37 ('87) owners will inevitably incur? Can you please tell me more - after how many rounds should I have the headspace checked?

Thanks

9mmepiphany · January 25, 2001, 05:18 PM

sorry i can't be much more specific but...

somthing about how the bolt locks up into a notch/cut out in the receiver and how recoil would batter the bolt into and peen it. does that make sense? my only other shotguns are a saiga 20 and a rossi s/s.

Coronach · January 25, 2001, 11:36 PM

China...slave labour...communism...supporting the system...guilt...your soul...etc etc etc

Mike

PS For the record, I agree with Dave, its just funny to hear him chime in on the anti-norinco side every time.

**Dave McC** · January 26, 2001, 07:47 AM

Sorry, Mike, don't feel like singing the same song again, my views are well known.

Ithaca 37s,like most pre 870 shotguns,have the bolt lock into a notch in the receiver,not the bbl extension.These are prone to peening after many a shot. Model 12s and 97s are also subject to this, but all, being Browning designs, take LOTS of rounds to get to this point. And, a decent smith can do a rebuild by building up the lug and notch with weld.

Coronach · January 26, 2001, 10:02 AM

You're letting me down, here...

Mike

January 24, 2001, 06:44 PM	#2
9mmepiphany Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2000 Location: northern california Posts: 1,091	yes it is it is a chinese copy of the ithaca 37, very nice too. i got mine about a year ago from century arms so this might be the next generation. mine was blued and came with wood furniture. sounds like they've upgraded it with a parkerized finish and synthetic stock the only disapointment was that it came with a full choke and marked "not for use with steel shot" which leaves me to believe it might be a little soft. i had a shotgun lover look at mine and he said it looked just like his real 37...down to the weakness, over time, in headspacing. i figured for <$100 its a cute yard gun.

January 25, 2001, 11:36 PM	#5
Coronach Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 1999 Posts: 3,151	Cue Dave McC... China...slave labour...communism...supporting the system...guilt...your soul...etc etc etc Mike PS For the record, I agree with Dave, its just funny to hear him chime in on the anti-norinco side every time. __________________ The axe bites into the door, ripping a hole in one panel. The maniac puts his face into the hole, cackling gleefully, "Here's Johnny...erk." "And here's Smith and Wesson," murmurs Coronach, Mozambiquing six rounds of .357 into the critter at a range of three feet. -Lawdog "True pacifism is the finest form of manliness. But if a man comes up to you and cuts your hand off, you don't just offer him the other one. Not if you want to go on playing the piano, you don't." -Sam Peckinpah "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert Heinlein

January 26, 2001, 10:02 AM	#7
Coronach Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 1999 Posts: 3,151	You're letting me down, here... Mike __________________ The axe bites into the door, ripping a hole in one panel. The maniac puts his face into the hole, cackling gleefully, "Here's Johnny...erk." "And here's Smith and Wesson," murmurs Coronach, Mozambiquing six rounds of .357 into the critter at a range of three feet. -Lawdog "True pacifism is the finest form of manliness. But if a man comes up to you and cuts your hand off, you don't just offer him the other one. Not if you want to go on playing the piano, you don't." -Sam Peckinpah "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert Heinlein

January 24, 2001, 01:46 PM	#1
SpoiledBySig Junior Member Join Date: April 2, 2000 Posts: 7	I was checking out my ShotGun News, and saw an irresistable ad for a "Brolin Arms" Synthetic stocked, 12 gauge, bottom ejectin', Parkerized( very much like an Ithaca 37 deerslayer). The price is $119.00...very enticing, except I need to know "what's the catch?". What I mean, is this shotgun made in Communist China or by some other "hard working indigenous peoples republic of( You name the 3rd world country), who someday plan to take us over economically, then physically?? I checked out sites for Brolin Arms......it's "Web-site ( if you want to call it that) just has there name and Kalifornica address.............no gun listings, no gun pictures, no gun prices. Perhaps you (Dave McC) might know something about this company or shotgun...is it Chinese?....is it Russian? I'd really want to know!.......Thanks in advance!

January 25, 2001, 03:55 PM	#3
Romulus Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2001 Location: Kettle Moraine country Posts: 848	Headspace weakness? Is this something model '37 ('87) owners will inevitably incur? Can you please tell me more - after how many rounds should I have the headspace checked? Thanks

January 25, 2001, 05:18 PM	#4
9mmepiphany Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2000 Location: northern california Posts: 1,091	sorry i can't be much more specific but... somthing about how the bolt locks up into a notch/cut out in the receiver and how recoil would batter the bolt into and peen it. does that make sense? my only other shotguns are a saiga 20 and a rossi s/s.

January 26, 2001, 07:47 AM	#6
Dave McC Staff Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 7,192	Sorry, Mike, don't feel like singing the same song again, my views are well known. Ithaca 37s,like most pre 870 shotguns,have the bolt lock into a notch in the receiver,not the bbl extension.These are prone to peening after many a shot. Model 12s and 97s are also subject to this, but all, being Browning designs, take LOTS of rounds to get to this point. And, a decent smith can do a rebuild by building up the lug and notch with weld.