Enterprise Phasers...

Guyon · September 27, 2001, 07:56 AM

Anybody catch the season opener of Enterprise? Looks like a good one. It was interesting to see the "old" phasers that looked a little bit like something out of Buck Rogers. They shoot intermittent beams instead of a steady stream of laser fire.

As we know, whatever sci-fi can dream up, science often makes good on. So call up your gun store this morning and get on the waiting list for "them newfangled blasters on that space show."

Trekkies Unite!

Andrewh · September 27, 2001, 08:53 AM

Actually they were plasma pistols at first, then they got phasers.

**4V50 Gary** · September 27, 2001, 10:55 AM

The ultimate in police weaponry. Think about it, you can zap a person without fear of cardiac arrest and then arrest them. Then again, it can be abused when it's set on "disappear" mode and citizens, miscreants, and the neighbor's cat vanish. Guess the sergeant will have to do a weapons inspection at debriefing...

Steel · September 27, 2001, 01:40 PM

I always liked the phasers incorporated into the crew's communicators (~ 3"x3"). I want a similar setup in a beeper chassis!

Halffast · September 27, 2001, 02:40 PM

Who gives a crap about the phasers, did you see the cannons on that Vulcan chick? I think I'm in love!

David

hkg3 · September 27, 2001, 02:50 PM

Halffast,

You mean there was more to the show than just those "cannons?"

Always been a trekkie. I liked the plasma pistols better than the phasers. The plasma pistols seem to be a bit more hard-core.

I was hoping they would start off with conventional weapons.

The show seems like it will great!

papercut · September 27, 2001, 07:45 PM

Guyon,

If you're interested in sci-fi technology becoming real, then read this article on the current state of transporter technology: http://www.space.com/businesstechnol...on_010926.html

C.R.Sam · September 27, 2001, 08:01 PM

Don't bother with tax payer supported airport.....teleport. !

S

Guyon · September 27, 2001, 08:32 PM

papercut,

Good to see a Cobb Countian on the site. I'm from Marietta originally. Thanks for the article. I liked that Einstein called this phenomenon "spooky action at a distance."

I dream about a teleporter every morning when I drive to work. Or especially when I drive four hours to visit my mom. Beam me up Scotty!

BTW: The Vulcan girl IS hot. Spock was cool, but he wouldn't be quite the same in a wet t-shirt.

eviltravis · September 27, 2001, 10:01 PM

What channel is this show on? I like sci/fi, but I've never seen this one.

Jim March · September 28, 2001, 12:02 AM

Does anybody remember the DS9 episode where there was a ground fight, and the annoying little Ferengi kid fresh out of Starfleet got his leg blown off?

Anyways, at one point one of the good guys got down behind a berm with a phaser rifle (the longarm) and something spectacular happened. He hit a button, and what should pop up but a GUNSIGHT. It was a cheesy piece of green translucent plexiglass or something, with a crosshair. But it was an honest-to-God *gunsight*.

With the amount of point-shooting they do in the Trek universe, I keep expecting somebody to load up the "Jeff Cooper" program in the nearest holodeck and get totally chewed out

.

I mean, the Bushnell Holosight or equivelent is an order of magnatude more advanced than anything in the Trek universe in terms of sights*. It's sad.

(* With the exception of the X-Ray sight that showed up in the last season of DS9, attached to a genuine rifled firearm with the transporter attached to the barrel like some sort of psycho muzzle brake so it could shoot through walls without putting holes in anything but the target. THAT was a cool toy!)

George Hill · September 28, 2001, 01:44 AM

Okay - some one better post a pic of these Cannons pretty danged soon.

Now, I am not a Trekker. I'm a Star Wars fan. Episode 4 Fan.
What you need is a handy Blaster at your side. A less elegant weapon for a less civilized time.

http://www.users.qwest.net/~hgeorge8...re%20Rules.htm

http://www.users.qwest.net/~hgeorge8..._star_wars.htm

Hal · September 28, 2001, 02:26 AM

Jolene Blalock

google.com

Hunter Rose · September 28, 2001, 02:44 AM

George (and anyone else interested): The Gun Rack in Florida lists the Star Wars conversion as one of the jobs they're willing to do to Mauser Broomhandles. Think about that for a sec: go out to the range with a nice aluminum case, pull out what everybody's been conditioned to think of as a ray gun, and start throwing tracers downrange. Brooms come in 9mm, and so does tracer...

Apple a Day · September 28, 2001, 05:09 AM

You gotta respect a character who says " hocus pocus and ancient religions...there's nothing like a good blaster at your side, kid..." or something to that effect when Luke is training with the drone in the original movie. I have to watch it again. Long live Solo!
I was pleasantly surprised at all the shooting in the new Star Trek episode. I was expecting another, even more PC version of the "New Generation". I guess the Borg babe worked so well they stuck in a Vulcan version.

pant, pant

WilderBill · September 28, 2001, 05:31 AM

hkg3 there was one example of "ancient" technology in the 1st Enterprize episode.
The looked like some sort of chrome plated over & under 12 gauge the farmer in Brokenbow used on the Klingon.
Blew him right off his feet, but of course it wasn't a phasor, so they had him up and around again by mid show.

Now back to the cannons. I'm ready for more details...

Thibault · September 28, 2001, 06:48 AM

Wilder Bill,
Seems like this shotgun has a "power pack" of some sort that really looks like a detachable mag... I want one!

Hold your fire about the hottie, guys, you're talking of Spock's mama, here! (Got it? Her name's T'Pau!)

The Borg would wipe them out in so little time there wouldn't be substance for an episode, thought...

Armed Trekkies unite!

Guyon · September 28, 2001, 07:53 AM

George, this page has a rather seductive picture of the Vulcan in question. Crop her hair short, and put some pointy ears on her. Then stick her in a shower in a wet t-shirt and watch her seductively rub some sort of space-age soap all over her body. That's why all the guys are still drooling.

http://www.geocities.com/jolene_blalock_fan_page/

Sorry to burst your bubble Thibault, but Spock's mother was a human, while his father was Vulcan.

**Mal H** · September 28, 2001, 08:36 AM

Right, as I recall T'Pau was the leader of Vulcan during the original ST era. I also thought Enterprise was a good show, well written. (But as usual, UPN inserted too darn many commercials.)

wakal · September 28, 2001, 08:57 AM

Mmmm...blasters. Here is one I built up on a horrible old Broomhandle in 7.63 by 25mm. Completely refinished, new springs (the bore is still bad, but for this use it was perfect), and functional. For the well-heeled Star Wars fan

And yes, the ones I've done in 9mm look pretty darn cool in low light with tracers...

Check my web site under "props" for more of that sort of work. Oddly enough, I find it more profitable to build blasters than what I started my shop to do (competition buildups and tuning for CAS and IPSC firearms)...a strange world we live in.

Alex

http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com

hkg3 · September 28, 2001, 09:29 AM

Guyon,

She was doing just fine with a dry t-shirt.

Andrewh · September 28, 2001, 09:35 AM

Jim March- Well in that case, it may have been a primitive sight. But if you recall in a previous episode where Kira was fighting with rebels, she had a rather advanced sighting system for long range shots. It had what looked like a monitor with a close up of the guy she was aiming at, with cross hairs that moved till she got lined up with the shot she wanted.
Also, if you read the tech manuals,(and yes I am geek enough to do that,) you will find that there are tracking sensors in the phasers, so all you have to do is point, and it does the rest of the aiming.
My guess to why the cheese site, is since there were so many targets, he needed a more positve sighting system up close.

Halffast · September 28, 2001, 09:47 AM

Here is a pic.

www.startrek.com/launch/crew/tpolbio.asp

All I can say is that I would get into the decomtamination chamber with her anytime.

George Hill · September 28, 2001, 11:13 AM

I like her Maxim photo better... A spock haircut on her? Thats a CRIME! I guess trekkers don't mind about all that stuff...

Now, in STAR WARS she would have been dressed in a brass bikini with a few chains, thigh high boots, and armed with some sort of very large carbine. THAT'S one of the reasons I like Star Wars better!

Then there is the wookie vs warf:
http://www.grudge-match.com/History/chew-worf.shtml

Thibault · September 28, 2001, 12:35 PM

It's all right, Guyon, It's only the first time I say something stupid today.... but it's only 1:45 DST...

September 27, 2001, 07:56 AM	#1
Guyon Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2000 Location: Over the Hills and Through the Woods, Tennessee Posts: 1,206	Enterprise Phasers... Anybody catch the season opener of Enterprise? Looks like a good one. It was interesting to see the "old" phasers that looked a little bit like something out of Buck Rogers. They shoot intermittent beams instead of a steady stream of laser fire. As we know, whatever sci-fi can dream up, science often makes good on. So call up your gun store this morning and get on the waiting list for "them newfangled blasters on that space show." Trekkies Unite! __________________ Gun control should just be about hitting your target.

September 27, 2001, 10:55 AM	#3
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: California Posts: 13,156	The ultimate in police weaponry. Think about it, you can zap a person without fear of cardiac arrest and then arrest them. Then again, it can be abused when it's set on "disappear" mode and citizens, miscreants, and the neighbor's cat vanish. Guess the sergeant will have to do a weapons inspection at debriefing... __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

September 27, 2001, 02:40 PM	#5
Halffast Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2000 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 526	Who gives a crap about the phasers, did you see the cannons on that Vulcan chick? I think I'm in love! David __________________ If your looking to government for the solution, you obviously don't understand the problem. Shameless Personal Plug - Read "Lights Out" A SHTF Novel in progress, by me. Molon Labe!

September 27, 2001, 02:50 PM	#6
hkg3 Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1999 Location: Kalifornia, on my way to Arizona Posts: 1,149	Halffast, You mean there was more to the show than just those "cannons?" Always been a trekkie. I liked the plasma pistols better than the phasers. The plasma pistols seem to be a bit more hard-core. I was hoping they would start off with conventional weapons. The show seems like it will great! __________________ "The next time I shoot somebody I could be arrested." - Lt. Frank Drebin, The Naked Gun

September 27, 2001, 07:45 PM	#7
papercut Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Cobb County, Georgia, USA, near the Big Chicken Posts: 923	Guyon, If you're interested in sci-fi technology becoming real, then read this article on the current state of transporter technology: http://www.space.com/businesstechnol...on_010926.html __________________ Sins can be forgiven, ills can be cured, but stupidity is forever.

September 27, 2001, 08:53 AM	#2
Andrewh Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 1999 Posts: 768	Actually they were plasma pistols at first, then they got phasers.

September 27, 2001, 01:40 PM	#4
Steel Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 505	I always liked the phasers incorporated into the crew's communicators (~ 3"x3"). I want a similar setup in a beeper chassis!

September 27, 2001, 08:01 PM	#8
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,876	Don't bother with tax payer supported airport.....teleport. ! S

September 27, 2001, 08:32 PM	#9
Guyon Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2000 Location: Over the Hills and Through the Woods, Tennessee Posts: 1,206	papercut, Good to see a Cobb Countian on the site. I'm from Marietta originally. Thanks for the article. I liked that Einstein called this phenomenon "spooky action at a distance." I dream about a teleporter every morning when I drive to work. Or especially when I drive four hours to visit my mom. Beam me up Scotty! BTW: The Vulcan girl IS hot. Spock was cool, but he wouldn't be quite the same in a wet t-shirt. __________________ Gun control should just be about hitting your target.

September 27, 2001, 10:01 PM	#10
eviltravis Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2001 Location: montana Posts: 171	What channel is this show on? I like sci/fi, but I've never seen this one. __________________ Slave screams! He spends his life learning conformity. Slave screams!He claims he has his own identity. Slave screams! He's going to cause the system to fall. Slave screams! But he's glad to be chained to that wall. Don't open your eyes you won't like what you see. The blind have been blessed with security. Don't open your eyes take it from me. I have found you can find happiness in slavery. Trent Reznor Nine Inch Nails

September 28, 2001, 12:02 AM	#11
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 4,695	Does anybody remember the DS9 episode where there was a ground fight, and the annoying little Ferengi kid fresh out of Starfleet got his leg blown off? Anyways, at one point one of the good guys got down behind a berm with a phaser rifle (the longarm) and something spectacular happened. He hit a button, and what should pop up but a GUNSIGHT. It was a cheesy piece of green translucent plexiglass or something, with a crosshair. But it was an honest-to-God gunsight. With the amount of point-shooting they do in the Trek universe, I keep expecting somebody to load up the "Jeff Cooper" program in the nearest holodeck and get totally chewed out . I mean, the Bushnell Holosight or equivelent is an order of magnatude more advanced than anything in the Trek universe in terms of sights. It's sad. ( With the exception of the X-Ray sight that showed up in the last season of DS9, attached to a genuine rifled firearm with the transporter attached to the barrel like some sort of psycho muzzle brake so it could shoot through walls without putting holes in anything but the target. THAT was a cool toy!) __________________ Jim March

September 28, 2001, 01:44 AM	#12
George Hill Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: Lapoint, Utah Posts: 11,475	Okay - some one better post a pic of these Cannons pretty danged soon. Now, I am not a Trekker. I'm a Star Wars fan. Episode 4 Fan. What you need is a handy Blaster at your side. A less elegant weapon for a less civilized time. http://www.users.qwest.net/~hgeorge8...re%20Rules.htm http://www.users.qwest.net/~hgeorge8..._star_wars.htm __________________ MAD OGRE

September 28, 2001, 02:26 AM	#13
Hal Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1998 Location: Ohio USA Posts: 5,994	Jolene Blalock google.com

September 28, 2001, 02:44 AM	#14
Hunter Rose Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2001 Location: 30 miles from Everywhere, right in the middle of Nowhere... Posts: 699	Han Solo's Blaster George (and anyone else interested): The Gun Rack in Florida lists the Star Wars conversion as one of the jobs they're willing to do to Mauser Broomhandles. Think about that for a sec: go out to the range with a nice aluminum case, pull out what everybody's been conditioned to think of as a ray gun, and start throwing tracers downrange. Brooms come in 9mm, and so does tracer... __________________ No Child Should Live In Fear Airplane Pictures

September 28, 2001, 05:09 AM	#15
Apple a Day Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2000 Location: Poquoson,Virginia Posts: 1,451	You gotta respect a character who says " hocus pocus and ancient religions...there's nothing like a good blaster at your side, kid..." or something to that effect when Luke is training with the drone in the original movie. I have to watch it again. Long live Solo! I was pleasantly surprised at all the shooting in the new Star Trek episode. I was expecting another, even more PC version of the "New Generation". I guess the Borg babe worked so well they stuck in a Vulcan version. pant, pant __________________ THose who use arms well cultivate the Way and keep the rules. Thus they can govern in such a way as to prevail over the corrupt. - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

September 28, 2001, 05:31 AM	#16
WilderBill Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 609	hkg3 there was one example of "ancient" technology in the 1st Enterprize episode. The looked like some sort of chrome plated over & under 12 gauge the farmer in Brokenbow used on the Klingon. Blew him right off his feet, but of course it wasn't a phasor, so they had him up and around again by mid show. Now back to the cannons. I'm ready for more details... __________________ I reserve the right to keep AND arm bears. Support those who support us.

September 28, 2001, 06:48 AM	#17
Thibault Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2000 Location: Middle of nowhere, Northern Quebec Posts: 344	Wilder Bill, Seems like this shotgun has a "power pack" of some sort that really looks like a detachable mag... I want one! Hold your fire about the hottie, guys, you're talking of Spock's mama, here! (Got it? Her name's T'Pau!) The Borg would wipe them out in so little time there wouldn't be substance for an episode, thought... Armed Trekkies unite!

September 28, 2001, 07:53 AM	#18
Guyon Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2000 Location: Over the Hills and Through the Woods, Tennessee Posts: 1,206	George, this page has a rather seductive picture of the Vulcan in question. Crop her hair short, and put some pointy ears on her. Then stick her in a shower in a wet t-shirt and watch her seductively rub some sort of space-age soap all over her body. That's why all the guys are still drooling. http://www.geocities.com/jolene_blalock_fan_page/ Sorry to burst your bubble Thibault, but Spock's mother was a human, while his father was Vulcan. __________________ Gun control should just be about hitting your target.

September 28, 2001, 08:36 AM	#19
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern VA Posts: 10,396	Right, as I recall T'Pau was the leader of Vulcan during the original ST era. I also thought Enterprise was a good show, well written. (But as usual, UPN inserted too darn many commercials.)

September 28, 2001, 08:57 AM	#20
wakal Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2000 Location: San Angelo, Texas Posts: 317	Mmmm...blasters. Here is one I built up on a horrible old Broomhandle in 7.63 by 25mm. Completely refinished, new springs (the bore is still bad, but for this use it was perfect), and functional. For the well-heeled Star Wars fan And yes, the ones I've done in 9mm look pretty darn cool in low light with tracers... Check my web site under "props" for more of that sort of work. Oddly enough, I find it more profitable to build blasters than what I started my shop to do (competition buildups and tuning for CAS and IPSC firearms)...a strange world we live in. Alex http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com

September 28, 2001, 09:29 AM	#21
hkg3 Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1999 Location: Kalifornia, on my way to Arizona Posts: 1,149	Guyon, She was doing just fine with a dry t-shirt. __________________ "The next time I shoot somebody I could be arrested." - Lt. Frank Drebin, The Naked Gun

September 28, 2001, 09:35 AM	#22
Andrewh Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 1999 Posts: 768	Jim March- Well in that case, it may have been a primitive sight. But if you recall in a previous episode where Kira was fighting with rebels, she had a rather advanced sighting system for long range shots. It had what looked like a monitor with a close up of the guy she was aiming at, with cross hairs that moved till she got lined up with the shot she wanted. Also, if you read the tech manuals,(and yes I am geek enough to do that,) you will find that there are tracking sensors in the phasers, so all you have to do is point, and it does the rest of the aiming. My guess to why the cheese site, is since there were so many targets, he needed a more positve sighting system up close.

September 28, 2001, 09:47 AM	#23
Halffast Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2000 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 526	Here is a pic. www.startrek.com/launch/crew/tpolbio.asp All I can say is that I would get into the decomtamination chamber with her anytime. __________________ If your looking to government for the solution, you obviously don't understand the problem. Shameless Personal Plug - Read "Lights Out" A SHTF Novel in progress, by me. Molon Labe!

September 28, 2001, 11:13 AM	#24
George Hill Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: Lapoint, Utah Posts: 11,475	I like her Maxim photo better... A spock haircut on her? Thats a CRIME! I guess trekkers don't mind about all that stuff... Now, in STAR WARS she would have been dressed in a brass bikini with a few chains, thigh high boots, and armed with some sort of very large carbine. THAT'S one of the reasons I like Star Wars better! Then there is the wookie vs warf: http://www.grudge-match.com/History/chew-worf.shtml __________________ MAD OGRE

September 28, 2001, 12:35 PM	#25
Thibault Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2000 Location: Middle of nowhere, Northern Quebec Posts: 344	It's all right, Guyon, It's only the first time I say something stupid today.... but it's only 1:45 DST...