What year were Florida tourists attacked?

Monkeyleg · November 22, 2001, 07:35 PM

Years back, after Florida passed its CCW laws, there were attacks on tourists in marked rental cars. "60 Minutes" and other shows were falling all over themselves to cover the stories and give their insight into the reasons.

Anyway, I've tried to find out in what years those events took place, but to no avail.

Anyone remember?

Thanks.

bastiat · November 22, 2001, 08:12 PM

This has a pretty good list:

http://www.mrmd.com/mir/german.html

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Here's the casualty list from Florida's open season on tourists:

Uwe-Wilhelm Rakebrand, 33, of Germany. Shot to death in his car yesterday as he left Miami airport.

Barbara Meller Jensen, 39, of Berlin. Shot to death April 2 after she got lost driving from Miami airport.

Jorg Schell, 59, of Germany. Shot to death March 11 outside a Miami-area motel just after arriving there.

Jesus Alberto Delgado, 47, a Venezuelan diplomat. Shot to death Jan. 26 outside a friend's Miami home.

Ralph Passero, 56, of Canada. Shot to death Jan. 22 when he tried to drive away from a robber outside a Miami-area restaurant.

Marc Nadeau, 33, an Air Canada executive. Shot to death Dec. 29 near Palm Beach while walking to a convenience store.

Rudi Rohlott, 54, of Germany. Shot to death Dec. 8 while walking in Fort Myers.

Keith Thompson, 42, of Chelmsford, England. Shot to death Oct. 3 in an Orlando hotel garage.

Jim March · November 22, 2001, 09:41 PM

The problems ran between about '88 and '92 or '93.

There's little question it was about crooks not wanting to run into CCW holders.

What cured the problem was outlawing renta-car bumper stickers or other visible insignia. Effectively, FL blended the unarmed tourists in among the armed native population.

What's REALLY funny as hell is that other states soon copied that ban on renta-car visible markings.

INCLUDING CALIFORNIA.

Jeez, what does that tell you about widespread violations of this state's screwed-up CCW rules, when the gov't actually takes *advantage* of the illegally armed state of society?!?

Fred Hansen · November 24, 2001, 03:26 AM

They peaked in '93. I was living there at the time (Ft. Lauderdale). They occured almost exclusively in a 'burb of Miami (Dade county) called 'Liberty City'. An otherwise little known Dade county District Attorney named Janet Reno was tapped in '93 to become A.G.U.S. the carjacking problem was solved soon after.

The great state of FL had been issuing license plates ending in Y or Z to all rental cars. Even semi-litterate thugs were able to recognize the cars. Turns out that the thugs hit touristas because they were a fairly uniformly identifiable group ala the license plates, and they were assumed to be unlikely to return to FL to testify against their attackers. Isn't that special?

November 22, 2001, 07:35 PM	#1
Monkeyleg Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2000 Posts: 4,621	What year were Florida tourists attacked? Years back, after Florida passed its CCW laws, there were attacks on tourists in marked rental cars. "60 Minutes" and other shows were falling all over themselves to cover the stories and give their insight into the reasons. Anyway, I've tried to find out in what years those events took place, but to no avail. Anyone remember? Thanks. __________________ Eotech Sights, Hunting Rangefinders Crimson Trace, Bushnell Scopes Remington Rifles, Smith and Wesson revolvers Beretta Pistols, Kimber, ACOG sights

November 22, 2001, 09:41 PM	#3
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 4,971	The problems ran between about '88 and '92 or '93. There's little question it was about crooks not wanting to run into CCW holders. What cured the problem was outlawing renta-car bumper stickers or other visible insignia. Effectively, FL blended the unarmed tourists in among the armed native population. What's REALLY funny as hell is that other states soon copied that ban on renta-car visible markings. INCLUDING CALIFORNIA. Jeez, what does that tell you about widespread violations of this state's screwed-up CCW rules, when the gov't actually takes advantage of the illegally armed state of society?!? __________________ Jim March

November 24, 2001, 03:26 AM	#4
Fred Hansen Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2001 Location: The middle of WWIII Posts: 3,340	They peaked in '93. I was living there at the time (Ft. Lauderdale). They occured almost exclusively in a 'burb of Miami (Dade county) called 'Liberty City'. An otherwise little known Dade county District Attorney named Janet Reno was tapped in '93 to become A.G.U.S. the carjacking problem was solved soon after. The great state of FL had been issuing license plates ending in Y or Z to all rental cars. Even semi-litterate thugs were able to recognize the cars. Turns out that the thugs hit touristas because they were a fairly uniformly identifiable group ala the license plates, and they were assumed to be unlikely to return to FL to testify against their attackers. Isn't that special? __________________ "This started out as a documentary on gun violence in America, but the largest mass murder in our history was just committed -- without the use of a single gun! Not a single bullet fired! No bomb was set off, no missile was fired, no weapon (i.e., a device that was solely and specifically manufactured to kill humans) was used. A boxcutter! -- I can't stop thinking about this. A thousand gun control laws would not have prevented this massacre. What am I doing?" Michael Moore