(TN) Request to move flag upsets some

Drizzt · November 30, 2001, 06:20 PM

Request to move flag upsets some

Gena Perry, a resident of Huntington Park Manor Apartments, who has two American flags displayed outside her apartment, says she is not removing them, even after receiving a memo from the management asking that flags be removed from windows. ''We are still at war, and I'm not taking my flag down,'' Perry said.

By NATALIA MIELCZAREK
Staff Writer

Roy Messer, property manager of a 15-building apartment complex in south Nashville, has asked the tenants to remove all flags and patriotic signs displayed in their windows, something that at least two residents are refusing to do.

''During one of the inspections, I suggested to the management that we put out a flier saying that the time has gone by for displaying flags and other things,'' said Messer about the Huntington Park Manor Apartments he manages on McMurray Drive.

He said all residents had a chance to commemorate those who died in the attack by contributing to flags and three wreaths that the management had put up after Sept. 11. Those are no longer on display.

The main reason Messer issued the letter on Wednesday, he said, was to avoid competition among residents, some from different countries, in displaying flags and other symbols in windows.

''What's going to stop other residents from different countries from putting their own flags up?'' he asked.

Messer said apartment leases specify that nothing can be shown in a window, a rule intended to keep the place looking neat.

''We even watch such things like Christmas decorations. We don't allow (residents) to display them all year-round like some people do at homes,'' Messer said.

Gena Perry, who lives in a townhouse in the complex, said she crumpled up the flier as soon as she read it.

''I read it and said: There's just no way. We're still at war, and I'm not taking my flag down,'' said Perry, who shortly after the attack stuck a miniature flag into her patio fence and glued one to the front window.

''It's like we're living under a dictatorship here. Isn't it my constitutional right to display a flag?''

Sarah Proctor and her fiancé, Christopher Hollars, said they were not taking their flag down because it's a sign of their solidarity with the rest of the country.

''With my fiancé being in the Air Force Reserve, we want to show our support for the armed forces,'' Proctor said. ''If he were called back, I'd want to be able to hang a flag in my window to show my support of him and what he's doing,'' she said of Hollars, who is a Gulf War veteran.

Proctor said her lease says that ''no signs, no notices or advertisements shall be attached to or displayed by the lessee on or about that premises,'' and says renters can't put anything on an outside window sill or outside any windows.

http://www.tennessean.com/local/arch...nt_ID=10965752

I know they signed the lease and all, but this just seems.... well, wrong.....

jimpeel · November 30, 2001, 08:58 PM

Since when is our flag considered a sign, notice or advertisement?

JCOJR · December 1, 2001, 12:08 AM

Drizzt,

I live about 3 miles from this complex. I'll go by and check it out and more importantantly, I'll copy this memo about the flag to all local T.V. stations.

I'll report back.

Thanks...JCO

JCOJR · December 1, 2001, 12:00 PM

http://www.tennessean.com/local/arch...nt_ID=11000070

Ampersand · December 1, 2001, 01:51 PM

''What's going to stop other residents from different countries from putting their own flags up?'' he asked.

Oh, the horror! The horror!

Who the **** cares if someone wants to display a flag in their own window of their own residence? Does it somehow harm my life if my neighbor puts a Denmark flag in her window?

Messer said apartment leases specify that nothing can be shown in a window, a rule intended to keep the place looking neat.

It's amazing how many apartment complexes try to control things that really aren't any of their business. Flags in good condition, hung in windows, do not in any way make a place messy.

Amp

November 30, 2001, 06:20 PM	#1
Drizzt Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2000 Location: Going Out of My Head at a Rapid Pace..... Posts: 2,511	(TN) Request to move flag upsets some Request to move flag upsets some Gena Perry, a resident of Huntington Park Manor Apartments, who has two American flags displayed outside her apartment, says she is not removing them, even after receiving a memo from the management asking that flags be removed from windows. ''We are still at war, and I'm not taking my flag down,'' Perry said. By NATALIA MIELCZAREK Staff Writer Roy Messer, property manager of a 15-building apartment complex in south Nashville, has asked the tenants to remove all flags and patriotic signs displayed in their windows, something that at least two residents are refusing to do. ''During one of the inspections, I suggested to the management that we put out a flier saying that the time has gone by for displaying flags and other things,'' said Messer about the Huntington Park Manor Apartments he manages on McMurray Drive. He said all residents had a chance to commemorate those who died in the attack by contributing to flags and three wreaths that the management had put up after Sept. 11. Those are no longer on display. The main reason Messer issued the letter on Wednesday, he said, was to avoid competition among residents, some from different countries, in displaying flags and other symbols in windows. ''What's going to stop other residents from different countries from putting their own flags up?'' he asked. Messer said apartment leases specify that nothing can be shown in a window, a rule intended to keep the place looking neat. ''We even watch such things like Christmas decorations. We don't allow (residents) to display them all year-round like some people do at homes,'' Messer said. Gena Perry, who lives in a townhouse in the complex, said she crumpled up the flier as soon as she read it. ''I read it and said: There's just no way. We're still at war, and I'm not taking my flag down,'' said Perry, who shortly after the attack stuck a miniature flag into her patio fence and glued one to the front window. ''It's like we're living under a dictatorship here. Isn't it my constitutional right to display a flag?'' Sarah Proctor and her fiancé, Christopher Hollars, said they were not taking their flag down because it's a sign of their solidarity with the rest of the country. ''With my fiancé being in the Air Force Reserve, we want to show our support for the armed forces,'' Proctor said. ''If he were called back, I'd want to be able to hang a flag in my window to show my support of him and what he's doing,'' she said of Hollars, who is a Gulf War veteran. Proctor said her lease says that ''no signs, no notices or advertisements shall be attached to or displayed by the lessee on or about that premises,'' and says renters can't put anything on an outside window sill or outside any windows. http://www.tennessean.com/local/arch...nt_ID=10965752 I know they signed the lease and all, but this just seems.... well, wrong..... __________________ "That a free citizen should have to go before a committee, hat in hand, and pray for permission to bear arms - fantastic! Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats." Robert Heinlein - Red Planet

November 30, 2001, 08:58 PM	#2
jimpeel Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: Longmont, CO, USA Posts: 3,800	Since when is our flag considered a sign, notice or advertisement? __________________ Gun Control: The premise that a woman found in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is morally superior to allowing that same woman to defend her life with a firearm. "Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house." - Jules Henri Poincare "Three thousand people died on Sept. 11 because eight pilots were killed" -- former Northwest Airlines pilot Stephen Luckey

December 1, 2001, 12:08 AM	#3
JCOJR Senior Member Join Date: September 18, 2001 Location: Tennessee Posts: 142	Drizzt Drizzt, I live about 3 miles from this complex. I'll go by and check it out and more importantantly, I'll copy this memo about the flag to all local T.V. stations. I'll report back. Thanks...JCO __________________ "There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. " -James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 16, 1788 "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.....those who torment us, for our own good, will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." C.S. Lewis

December 1, 2001, 12:00 PM	#4
JCOJR Senior Member Join Date: September 18, 2001 Location: Tennessee Posts: 142	That didn't take long! http://www.tennessean.com/local/arch...nt_ID=11000070 __________________ "There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. " -James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 16, 1788 "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.....those who torment us, for our own good, will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." C.S. Lewis

December 1, 2001, 01:51 PM	#5
Ampersand Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Posts: 83	''What's going to stop other residents from different countries from putting their own flags up?'' he asked. Oh, the horror! The horror! Who the **** cares if someone wants to display a flag in their own window of their own residence? Does it somehow harm my life if my neighbor puts a Denmark flag in her window? Messer said apartment leases specify that nothing can be shown in a window, a rule intended to keep the place looking neat. It's amazing how many apartment complexes try to control things that really aren't any of their business. Flags in good condition, hung in windows, do not in any way make a place messy. Amp __________________ Cartoons by Ampersand!