Glock 30 /21

clarence · October 13, 2000, 07:37 AM

Just tried both today, found the grip of the G30 uncomfortable(too big) while the G21 was ok. Would appreciate comments/experiences on the performance/differnces in recoil-muzzle flip between the two. Heard that some G30 owners experienced little cracks on their receivers, is that true? Thanks in advanced.

BB · October 13, 2000, 07:43 AM

Did you make a typo? The G30 is SMALLER than the G21. The G30 has a double-recoil spring, and is very nice to shoot. Some say they are more accurate with the G30 than the 21, but I love my 21. The difference in muzzle flip and recoil between them is slight. Better off thinking about what you want to do with the gun. While the G30 is better for carry for the size, the G21 has more options in caliber conversions, and a higher muzzle velocity.

Quantum Singularity · October 13, 2000, 08:37 AM

Thats true, a small percentage of G30 owners have cracks in the receivers. Even some G26 and G27's have cracks in the receivers. Glock will replace the frame should that happen.

I prefer the Glock 21 over the 30 because its proved more accurate for me. Both have little felt recoil and are easy to shoot. However, you should choose whatever fits you best.

skevlar · October 13, 2000, 08:47 AM

21 over 30 also. The 30 does not fit my large paw either, it's "chunky" & blocky, just does not feel "right". Have to fool around getting what seems a good grip on it. 21 does shoot softer {For me}. Still like the 30 but if the 21 fits your hand and conceals well for you it's the better way to go.

[This message has been edited by skevlar (edited October 13, 2000).]

leedesert · October 13, 2000, 09:06 AM

I think he is reffering to the size of the grip when he said "it's too big". The 30 is a little chunkier then the 21 but not enough to affect shooting. It's more a matter of getting use to it.
I like both guns but for over all versatilaty the 30 wins hands down.

Accuracy in both is fairly equal with a slight advantage to the 30. I don't know why but it probably has to do with the balance of the gun (weight, length, recoil spring).

The advantage of the 21 is the slide rails but I've heard that people have had problems with it because of the flexing of the frame. There is a new adapter for the M3 that attaches to the front of the trigger guard. It's basically a seperate rail that can be removed when not in use.
This makes any Glock able to hold an M3 light. I saw it on the cover of Handguns magazine this month.

The only true advantage of the 21 is the high cap magazine (expensive ($90+)) but even this will fit in the 30. To me, paying over $90 just to have an extra 3 rounds is a bit too much.

The whole crack in the plastic thing is just cosmetic and there is only a small amount of guns that actually have it. It's just a hairline imperfection in the molding process and is not in a stress area. If you have it Glock will replace your receiver. I've put about 900rds through mine and I don't have it and believe me, I've looked.

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BB · October 13, 2000, 10:16 AM

You can't put a 10mm slide on a G30.

HiCap · October 13, 2000, 12:13 PM

A G29 10mm slide will fit just fine on a 30.

BB · October 13, 2000, 12:47 PM

I stand corrected!

jtduncan · October 13, 2000, 01:32 PM

if grip size is an issue, you may be a good candidate for the G36. i can't believe I said that but its true. If CCW is a primary use, then the G36 is what you should test out.

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DerGlockenpooper · October 13, 2000, 07:14 PM

The cracks are also a production mishap, and they are coming out of the box that way. It does not affect performance, it is not a stress issue, and if your gun does not have a crack it ain't gonna get one.
A batch of Glocks went out with cracks, so when you buy one, just check to make sure it does not have one. Even if it does, they will fix it. If you buy one without a crack, it is not going to crack later, so don't worry about it.

slickpuppy · October 14, 2000, 03:52 AM

I like both, but have 2 G30s. Also have a G20 slide for the 21 and a G29 slide for the 30s. Its great to switch between 10mm and 45 with a simple slide switch.

October 13, 2000, 07:37 AM	#1
clarence Member Join Date: January 1, 2000 Location: Nothern Luzon, Philippines Posts: 63	Just tried both today, found the grip of the G30 uncomfortable(too big) while the G21 was ok. Would appreciate comments/experiences on the performance/differnces in recoil-muzzle flip between the two. Heard that some G30 owners experienced little cracks on their receivers, is that true? Thanks in advanced.

October 13, 2000, 07:43 AM	#2
BB Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 1999 Posts: 812	Did you make a typo? The G30 is SMALLER than the G21. The G30 has a double-recoil spring, and is very nice to shoot. Some say they are more accurate with the G30 than the 21, but I love my 21. The difference in muzzle flip and recoil between them is slight. Better off thinking about what you want to do with the gun. While the G30 is better for carry for the size, the G21 has more options in caliber conversions, and a higher muzzle velocity.

October 13, 2000, 08:37 AM	#3
Quantum Singularity Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2000 Posts: 925	Thats true, a small percentage of G30 owners have cracks in the receivers. Even some G26 and G27's have cracks in the receivers. Glock will replace the frame should that happen. I prefer the Glock 21 over the 30 because its proved more accurate for me. Both have little felt recoil and are easy to shoot. However, you should choose whatever fits you best.

October 13, 2000, 08:47 AM	#4
skevlar Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2000 Posts: 327	21 over 30 also. The 30 does not fit my large paw either, it's "chunky" & blocky, just does not feel "right". Have to fool around getting what seems a good grip on it. 21 does shoot softer {For me}. Still like the 30 but if the 21 fits your hand and conceals well for you it's the better way to go. [This message has been edited by skevlar (edited October 13, 2000).]

October 13, 2000, 09:06 AM	#5
leedesert Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 1999 Location: Ga Posts: 634	I think he is reffering to the size of the grip when he said "it's too big". The 30 is a little chunkier then the 21 but not enough to affect shooting. It's more a matter of getting use to it. I like both guns but for over all versatilaty the 30 wins hands down. Accuracy in both is fairly equal with a slight advantage to the 30. I don't know why but it probably has to do with the balance of the gun (weight, length, recoil spring). The advantage of the 21 is the slide rails but I've heard that people have had problems with it because of the flexing of the frame. There is a new adapter for the M3 that attaches to the front of the trigger guard. It's basically a seperate rail that can be removed when not in use. This makes any Glock able to hold an M3 light. I saw it on the cover of Handguns magazine this month. The only true advantage of the 21 is the high cap magazine (expensive ($90+)) but even this will fit in the 30. To me, paying over $90 just to have an extra 3 rounds is a bit too much. The whole crack in the plastic thing is just cosmetic and there is only a small amount of guns that actually have it. It's just a hairline imperfection in the molding process and is not in a stress area. If you have it Glock will replace your receiver. I've put about 900rds through mine and I don't have it and believe me, I've looked. ------------------ "It is easier to get out of jail then it is a morgue" Live long and defend yourself! John 3:16 NRA lifer GOA GSSF KABA

October 13, 2000, 10:16 AM	#6
BB Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 1999 Posts: 812	You can't put a 10mm slide on a G30.

October 13, 2000, 12:13 PM	#7
HiCap Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 1999 Posts: 107	A G29 10mm slide will fit just fine on a 30.

October 13, 2000, 12:47 PM	#8
BB Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 1999 Posts: 812	I stand corrected!

October 13, 2000, 01:32 PM	#9
jtduncan Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 1999 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 1,681	if grip size is an issue, you may be a good candidate for the G36. i can't believe I said that but its true. If CCW is a primary use, then the G36 is what you should test out. ------------------ *The Seattle SharpShooter* - TFL/GT/UGW/PCT/KTOG

October 13, 2000, 07:14 PM	#10
DerGlockenpooper Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 1999 Posts: 222	The cracks are also a production mishap, and they are coming out of the box that way. It does not affect performance, it is not a stress issue, and if your gun does not have a crack it ain't gonna get one. A batch of Glocks went out with cracks, so when you buy one, just check to make sure it does not have one. Even if it does, they will fix it. If you buy one without a crack, it is not going to crack later, so don't worry about it.

October 14, 2000, 03:52 AM	#11
slickpuppy Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 1999 Posts: 928	I like both, but have 2 G30s. Also have a G20 slide for the 21 and a G29 slide for the 30s. Its great to switch between 10mm and 45 with a simple slide switch.