Custom 1911 with Boron Carbide coating pic

ArmySon · March 2, 2002, 03:46 PM

Built by Pete Single

Unfortunately, since I'm a bit far away from home, I've yet to touch my new 1911!!

Can't wait to get home and shoot it!

Boron carbide is a dark finish that's VERY thin (2-3 micron's, one micron is about .00005, which translates to .00015... hard chome is about .0002-.0005).

It's applied at only 250 degrees which will not temper the steel. In addition, it's also very corrosion resistent It's probably the most durable dark finish on the market.

Proprietor of the finish is Bodycote Diamond Black.

This pistol was displayed at the SHOT show this year as a representation of boron carbide.

Les Baer Slide and Frame
Custom Pete Single Magwell
Bomar rear sight
Custom fabricated front sight with tritium insert
Kart Barrel
Ed Brown extended mag release
Ed Brown safety
Ed Brown slide stop
Ed Brown beavertail
Wilson Bushing
Wilson hammer
30 lpi front and rear checkering
Polished hard chrome finished with Boron Carbide coated over top

etc etc

AndABeer · March 2, 2002, 03:57 PM

Another beauty, ArmySon. How do you afford that stuff on Gubmint pay? Nevermind, none my damn business.

Good to "see" you and hope Unkie Sam isn't treating you too roughly.

J Scott · March 2, 2002, 04:05 PM

Son,

The pistol looks great.

Man we have missed your insight. Not just here but over at 1911forum. If you haven't yet tried this site, go to
www.pistolsmith.com it's a lot of the ol' gang from 1911forum.

Anyway, it's good to know that you are safe!

J Scott

riverdog · March 2, 2002, 04:09 PM

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In addition, it's also very corrosion resistent

From what I've read, the Boron Carbide is not corrosion resistant, that's why they use chrome (or in this case Hard Chrome) before the boron carbide on carbon steel. Nevertheless, it's an outstanding finish and is on my list of things to do.

Incursion · March 3, 2002, 12:25 AM

drool

Nalapombu · March 16, 2002, 07:36 AM

It has been a long while since I have seen any pics or posts from Son. Every time I see people posting gangs of 1911's to show off their wares I always expect to see Son taking up a page or two. This is about the 5th or 6th really nice 1911 that I have seen pics of from him. He is without question packing big heat in the 1911 department.
Keep 'em coming Son.

Nala

ATeaM · March 16, 2002, 08:09 AM

The finish is beautiful, but I prefer my 1911's to look like this...

Kharn · March 16, 2002, 11:57 AM

Are all those bills under that fine handgun representative of the price?

Kharn

TimWilson · March 17, 2002, 12:30 AM

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If you haven't yet tried this site, go to www.pistolsmith.com

Torpedo · March 18, 2002, 03:03 AM

Pete does really top flight work Sun. I really like it. Am looking foward to a report when you finally get your hands on that beauty. Want to know your opinion of the ceramic coating.

HKguy9 · July 23, 2002, 05:43 PM

Beeaauuuuuutiiiiiful, Son. Are those Carbon Creation stocks?

blades67 · July 23, 2002, 07:40 PM

Hope that finish holds up for you.

Blackhawk · July 23, 2002, 08:37 PM

That's just about the prettiest 1911 I've ever seen!

HKguy9 · July 23, 2002, 08:55 PM

I have been thinking about this gun all day.

Foxy · July 23, 2002, 11:39 PM

Wow.

I don't normally like 'shiny' finishes on pistols, but that is gorgeous.

Is it just me, or does it look like the Kimber Eclipses?

300lbGorilla · July 24, 2002, 12:57 AM

Great... it's gonna take me a while to clean up the keyboard after that one.

Hey Son, you wouldn't happen to own a Benchmade 770 would ya? I know the gun would match mine PERFECTLY.

You are a lucky man, man!

RWK · July 24, 2002, 06:16 AM

Great to hear from you. I hope the "call up" tour continues to go well. Your new 1911A1 is simply wonderful -- as beautiful as it is functional. I am truly envious.

By the way, as our personal 1911A1 guru, what do you think about these new Valtros (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...hreadid=122420 and http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...hreadid=122304)? As always, your opinion would be much valued and appreciated, even if you have not fired one yet.

Best regards -- Roy

CastleBravo · July 24, 2002, 06:36 AM

Wasn't that pic (or one very similar) posted several months ago?

Wait, this topic STARTED several months ago! Disregard.

Shake · July 24, 2002, 04:11 PM

Lets see. . . initial post that started the thread was posted 03-02-2002.

Is there any point in responding to these old threads?

Shake

ArmySon · July 27, 2002, 12:46 AM

Yes I own a Benchmade 770. However, mine has a green handle.

As for the Valtro, I've never fired or handled one so I can't give you a good opinion on it.

However, a good buddy of mine who also is a damn fine smith rates them around the same tier as a Les Baer or Wilson.

RWK · July 27, 2002, 08:44 AM

Thanks and hope you're home soon.

Best regards -- Roy

Vanguard.45 · July 29, 2002, 03:38 PM

Just got a new Springfield TRP and want my finish to look just like that finish! Who do I call and where do I mail my bodypart of choice to pay for it?

Seriously, where was the Hard Chrome Job done and how did it come out so "white?" I thought boron carbide turned the gun black!?? What's the secret O Great Ones of the TFL?

How do I get in touch with Pete Single, because if he can do this, I neeeeed to give him a call!

Thanks for your time and assistance?

HKguy9 · July 29, 2002, 04:23 PM

Man I can't get over how incredibly pretty that gun is.

ArmySon · August 14, 2002, 10:55 PM

You can get your firearm looking like that relatively easily but it'll cost you. First, the flats must be highly polished. Next, a hardchrome finished was applied. Then, the last step was to apply the boron carbide.

The finish was applied by Bodycote Diamond Black. I believe you need a gunsmith to send off your firearm for them to accept the work. Correct me if I'm wrong.

PS

Forgot to add that the trigger is one of STI's ultralight trigger

newbie 9mm · August 15, 2002, 08:09 AM

Boron Carbide helps with corrosion resistance. The bodycoat reps say so. BUT, when they were talking about using it on knives for corrosion resistance, they said because the coating is not on the edge, and due to the thinness of the coating, rust can go underneath the coating where it is exposed at the edge of the knife and go beneath the coating, but a little preventative maintenance, ie wiping it down occasionally and not leaving it out wet, will take care of it. I don't think i ever recall seeing any rusty guns from people who did anything to take care of them. Boron carbide does prevent rust as the surface is blocked off from moisture and gunk, but it can get underneath the edges where the boron carbide is off.

BC is a 91 rockwell ceramic coating. I know they experimented with a rainbow version, and the black version actually shows the finish underneath. i did a custom handle for a camillus arclight that was sandblasted and then coated black. the black on there was a very nice flat, dark matte black. I have also seen very shiny BC coated knives that looked like black mirrors. It is very scratch resistant...mirror finished knife with BC in pocket with change and keys, no harm to the finish according to some articles in Blade magazine. I want to do up a 1911 and have it BC black. just not sure if im gonna go shiny or flat yet..maybe one of each

March 2, 2002, 03:46 PM	#1
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	Custom 1911 with Boron Carbide coating pic Built by Pete Single Unfortunately, since I'm a bit far away from home, I've yet to touch my new 1911!! Can't wait to get home and shoot it! Boron carbide is a dark finish that's VERY thin (2-3 micron's, one micron is about .00005, which translates to .00015... hard chome is about .0002-.0005). It's applied at only 250 degrees which will not temper the steel. In addition, it's also very corrosion resistent It's probably the most durable dark finish on the market. Proprietor of the finish is Bodycote Diamond Black. This pistol was displayed at the SHOT show this year as a representation of boron carbide. Les Baer Slide and Frame Custom Pete Single Magwell Bomar rear sight Custom fabricated front sight with tritium insert Kart Barrel Ed Brown extended mag release Ed Brown safety Ed Brown slide stop Ed Brown beavertail Wilson Bushing Wilson hammer 30 lpi front and rear checkering Polished hard chrome finished with Boron Carbide coated over top etc etc __________________ Your friends will forgive your mistakes. Your enemies will kill you for it.

March 2, 2002, 03:57 PM	#2
AndABeer Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2000 Location: Lakeland, TN Posts: 1,622	Another beauty, ArmySon. How do you afford that stuff on Gubmint pay? Nevermind, none my damn business. Good to "see" you and hope Unkie Sam isn't treating you too roughly. __________________ "The key is to not pull the trigger but to squeeze it." Evil Emporer Zurg "You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." Unknown

March 18, 2002, 03:03 AM	#10
Torpedo Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2000 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 268	Pete does really top flight work Sun. I really like it. Am looking foward to a report when you finally get your hands on that beauty. Want to know your opinion of the ceramic coating. __________________ *Torpedo* It's a good life if you can survive it!

July 23, 2002, 05:43 PM	#11
HKguy9 Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2001 Posts: 2,132	Beeaauuuuuutiiiiiful, Son. Are those Carbon Creation stocks? __________________ P7M8, VP9

July 23, 2002, 07:40 PM	#12
blades67 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 6,014	Hope that finish holds up for you. __________________ Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat! I hunt, therefore I am.

March 2, 2002, 04:05 PM	#3
J Scott Member Join Date: April 20, 2001 Location: Tennessee Posts: 63	Son, The pistol looks great. Man we have missed your insight. Not just here but over at 1911forum. If you haven't yet tried this site, go to www.pistolsmith.com it's a lot of the ol' gang from 1911forum. Anyway, it's good to know that you are safe! J Scott

March 3, 2002, 12:25 AM	#5
Incursion Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2000 Location: TX Posts: 803	drool

March 16, 2002, 07:36 AM	#6
Nalapombu Member Join Date: May 27, 2000 Location: South Point, Ohio. USA Posts: 88	It has been a long while since I have seen any pics or posts from Son. Every time I see people posting gangs of 1911's to show off their wares I always expect to see Son taking up a page or two. This is about the 5th or 6th really nice 1911 that I have seen pics of from him. He is without question packing big heat in the 1911 department. Keep 'em coming Son. Nala

March 16, 2002, 11:57 AM	#8
Kharn Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,531	Are all those bills under that fine handgun representative of the price? Kharn

July 23, 2002, 08:37 PM	#13
Blackhawk Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2001 Posts: 5,040	That's just about the prettiest 1911 I've ever seen!

July 23, 2002, 08:55 PM	#14
HKguy9 Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2001 Posts: 2,132	I have been thinking about this gun all day. __________________ P7M8, VP9

July 23, 2002, 11:39 PM	#15
Foxy Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 846	Wow. I don't normally like 'shiny' finishes on pistols, but that is gorgeous. Is it just me, or does it look like the Kimber Eclipses?

July 24, 2002, 12:57 AM	#16
300lbGorilla Member Join Date: June 17, 2002 Location: Fontana, CA Posts: 39	Great... it's gonna take me a while to clean up the keyboard after that one. Hey Son, you wouldn't happen to own a Benchmade 770 would ya? I know the gun would match mine PERFECTLY. You are a lucky man, man! __________________ Infrequent displays of reason and lucidity may occur, Cullen

July 24, 2002, 06:16 AM	#17
RWK Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 1999 Location: Occupied Virginia Posts: 2,777	Son . . . Great to hear from you. I hope the "call up" tour continues to go well. Your new 1911A1 is simply wonderful -- as beautiful as it is functional. I am truly envious. By the way, as our personal 1911A1 guru, what do you think about these new Valtros (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...hreadid=122420 and http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...hreadid=122304)? As always, your opinion would be much valued and appreciated, even if you have not fired one yet. Best regards -- Roy __________________ __________________ Μολών λαβέ!

July 24, 2002, 06:36 AM	#18
CastleBravo Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 1999 Posts: 2,144	Wasn't that pic (or one very similar) posted several months ago? Wait, this topic STARTED several months ago! Disregard.

July 24, 2002, 04:11 PM	#19
Shake Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 1999 Location: Utah Posts: 1,004	Lets see. . . initial post that started the thread was posted 03-02-2002. Is there any point in responding to these old threads? Shake __________________ “The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make some other bastard die for his.” -George Patton

July 27, 2002, 12:46 AM	#20
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	Yes I own a Benchmade 770. However, mine has a green handle. As for the Valtro, I've never fired or handled one so I can't give you a good opinion on it. However, a good buddy of mine who also is a damn fine smith rates them around the same tier as a Les Baer or Wilson. __________________ Your friends will forgive your mistakes. Your enemies will kill you for it.

July 27, 2002, 08:44 AM	#21
RWK Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 1999 Location: Occupied Virginia Posts: 2,777	Son . . . Thanks and hope you're home soon. Best regards -- Roy __________________ __________________ Μολών λαβέ!

July 29, 2002, 03:38 PM	#22
Vanguard.45 Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2001 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 277	How can I get MYYYYY gun to look like YOOOOUUUUUR gun? Just got a new Springfield TRP and want my finish to look just like that finish! Who do I call and where do I mail my bodypart of choice to pay for it? Seriously, where was the Hard Chrome Job done and how did it come out so "white?" I thought boron carbide turned the gun black!?? What's the secret O Great Ones of the TFL? How do I get in touch with Pete Single, because if he can do this, I neeeeed to give him a call! Thanks for your time and assistance? __________________ "I came into this world with nothin', and I still got most of it."

July 29, 2002, 04:23 PM	#23
HKguy9 Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2001 Posts: 2,132	Man I can't get over how incredibly pretty that gun is. __________________ P7M8, VP9

August 14, 2002, 10:55 PM	#24
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	You can get your firearm looking like that relatively easily but it'll cost you. First, the flats must be highly polished. Next, a hardchrome finished was applied. Then, the last step was to apply the boron carbide. The finish was applied by Bodycote Diamond Black. I believe you need a gunsmith to send off your firearm for them to accept the work. Correct me if I'm wrong. PS Forgot to add that the trigger is one of STI's ultralight trigger __________________ Your friends will forgive your mistakes. Your enemies will kill you for it.

August 15, 2002, 08:09 AM	#25
newbie 9mm Member Join Date: June 4, 2002 Posts: 39	Boron Carbide helps with corrosion resistance. The bodycoat reps say so. BUT, when they were talking about using it on knives for corrosion resistance, they said because the coating is not on the edge, and due to the thinness of the coating, rust can go underneath the coating where it is exposed at the edge of the knife and go beneath the coating, but a little preventative maintenance, ie wiping it down occasionally and not leaving it out wet, will take care of it. I don't think i ever recall seeing any rusty guns from people who did anything to take care of them. Boron carbide does prevent rust as the surface is blocked off from moisture and gunk, but it can get underneath the edges where the boron carbide is off. BC is a 91 rockwell ceramic coating. I know they experimented with a rainbow version, and the black version actually shows the finish underneath. i did a custom handle for a camillus arclight that was sandblasted and then coated black. the black on there was a very nice flat, dark matte black. I have also seen very shiny BC coated knives that looked like black mirrors. It is very scratch resistant...mirror finished knife with BC in pocket with change and keys, no harm to the finish according to some articles in Blade magazine. I want to do up a 1911 and have it BC black. just not sure if im gonna go shiny or flat yet..maybe one of each