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Yea, you really need to get stock fit right without the optic. To me, it is all about thumb to cheek spacing. Then set the scope in the correct spot after.
What will greatly affect your lop is how much you rotate your shoulders. You want to develop this upper body position not so much for comfort as much as recoil stroke. The more square your shoulders are, the better that recoil stroke is. You will see it in how crosshairs move when shooting. With a good rest, and clean break, the crosshairs should come straight back and rise just a bit. Side to side movement should be limited and rotation based from barrel twist. A slight twist and a short push forward should reset your position.
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