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Socrates · February 19, 2008, 09:38 PM

DAdams:
Thanks for the response. I had a bunch more stuff to try, but, I figure for now, either the Corbon 125's at 1204 fps, chronographed, or, the Fioochi 147 .357 mag loads will do the
trick. Oddly enough they seem to recoil about the same as the 158 grain Plus P buffalobore, which is a very effective snubby round, penetrating around 14" opening up well, and moving about 1040 fps out of an actual snub. I think the Fioochi is probably going the same, or slightly slower.

I will look into the short barrel stuff. Must be a reason I haven't tried it. This gun is a nice, light, pocket carry gun.
For IWB, or thunderwear, I'm looking at a 3" Model 60, Glock 30, or CCO style 1911, converted to .475 JRH short.

I 'tapered' the HM grip so it doesn't stick out as much, and print, when carried in thunderwear, or whatever the new name is for the stuff, smartcarry, I think.

I like the extra velocity I get from the 158 Item No. 20A/20 158 gr. L.S.W.C.H.P.--G.C. (1,000fps/M.E. 351 ft.lbs.)
S&W mod. 60, 2 inch—1040 fps (379 ft. lbs.)

I'll use that, or the 147 grain Fioochi. Both hammer me pretty good, far harder then the standard 38.

I also picked up these:
Item No. 19C/20 158 gr. JHC (1475 fps ME 763 ft. lbs.)
Item No. 19D/20 125 gr. JHC (1700 fps ME 802 ft lbs.)

But, decided my hand was hamburger, and, wanted to shoot something civilized, like 400 grain bullets at 1350 fps...
1. 3 inch S&W J frame

a. Item 19A/20-180gr. Hard cast LFN = 1302 fps
b. Item 19B/20-170gr. JHC (jacketed hollow cavity) = 1299 fps
c. Item 19C/20-158gr. Speer Uni Core = 1398 fps
d. Item 19D/20-125gr. Speer Uni Core = 1476 fps

I'd be real intrested if out of the snub barrel, if the above loads drop 100 feet, how much difference in recoil is really there.

February 19, 2008, 09:38 PM	#4
Socrates Junior member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: East Bay NorCal, People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 5,866	DAdams: Thanks for the response. I had a bunch more stuff to try, but, I figure for now, either the Corbon 125's at 1204 fps, chronographed, or, the Fioochi 147 .357 mag loads will do the trick. Oddly enough they seem to recoil about the same as the 158 grain Plus P buffalobore, which is a very effective snubby round, penetrating around 14" opening up well, and moving about 1040 fps out of an actual snub. I think the Fioochi is probably going the same, or slightly slower. I will look into the short barrel stuff. Must be a reason I haven't tried it. This gun is a nice, light, pocket carry gun. For IWB, or thunderwear, I'm looking at a 3" Model 60, Glock 30, or CCO style 1911, converted to .475 JRH short. I 'tapered' the HM grip so it doesn't stick out as much, and print, when carried in thunderwear, or whatever the new name is for the stuff, smartcarry, I think. I like the extra velocity I get from the 158 Item No. 20A/20 158 gr. L.S.W.C.H.P.--G.C. (1,000fps/M.E. 351 ft.lbs.) S&W mod. 60, 2 inch—1040 fps (379 ft. lbs.) I'll use that, or the 147 grain Fioochi. Both hammer me pretty good, far harder then the standard 38. I also picked up these: Item No. 19C/20 158 gr. JHC (1475 fps ME 763 ft. lbs.) Item No. 19D/20 125 gr. JHC (1700 fps ME 802 ft lbs.) But, decided my hand was hamburger, and, wanted to shoot something civilized, like 400 grain bullets at 1350 fps... 1. 3 inch S&W J frame a. Item 19A/20-180gr. Hard cast LFN = 1302 fps b. Item 19B/20-170gr. JHC (jacketed hollow cavity) = 1299 fps c. Item 19C/20-158gr. Speer Uni Core = 1398 fps d. Item 19D/20-125gr. Speer Uni Core = 1476 fps I'd be real intrested if out of the snub barrel, if the above loads drop 100 feet, how much difference in recoil is really there.