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so anyone have any input on a helwan 9mm? ive heard a lot of mixed reviews
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It's a junk gun, alongside Hi-Point, Jennings, Bryco, Skyy (Scyy), Raven, and countless either cheap pot-metal guns. Some might work, but they're far from anything resembling quality.
While I'm not a big fan of Bersa or Kel-Tec, their products can be had at similar price points and they are undeniably superior firearms.
An S&W SW9VE Sigma is another good, low-budget choice.
If it were me though, I'd stretch to around $300 for a Ruger or a used S&W steel-framed auto.