List your jam-free autopistols here - Page 3

trapshooter · January 15, 2002, 04:07 AM

1991A1
Walther PPK/S
Walther PP (.22LR) (Wish I had it back)

Have two or three that I haven't got around to shooting yet, but I try to buy quality stuff. If it turns out to not be, it's history. The only reason I will get rid of a gun (lately) is because it's not reliable. I've only traded one in the last 15 years, a Springfield Ultra-Comp that FTF'd on ball. I'm not unreasonable, but if a 1911 style .45 wont feed ball, it's a paperweight. Traded for my P245 (so far NIB).

E.T. · January 15, 2002, 06:27 AM

Is there something wrong with my eyes or doesn't the Walther P99 appear in this fine listing ?

I've fired countless round of all kinds - namely LRN, JHP, FMJ and even subsonic or Action-Express - without a single malfunction.

Of all the fishes in the sea, the P99 is the one for me !

Hal · January 15, 2002, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Of all the fishes in the sea,

LOL! Fish stories popped into my mind too

Larry Wright · January 15, 2002, 08:22 AM

S&W 459 has never jammed on me.

Edward429451 · January 15, 2002, 08:41 AM

I know for a fact that my Glock 21 has never jammed on a factory round.

My Colt 1911 is so old that I'm not sure, IIRC its never jammed on factory after its initial break in, and reliability upgrades (Ramp-throat-polish-ext. ejector), but I just hardly ever shoot factory anymore. Its less finiky about its reloads than the Glock though.

Alnamvet · January 15, 2002, 08:51 AM

My SE Asian clone, a rust bucket she may be, with rusty left over ammo from "the big one" never has jammed on me.

scooter71 · January 15, 2002, 08:53 AM

QUOTE:

What makes you think your experiences are more valid than anyone elses?

I think YOU may be full of it.

Are you seriously saying flatout that posters here are lying?

Shake..

I have extensive weapons training with the Federal Govt., and formerly with the military, as well as being a firearms instructor/range officer....I'm not bragging, just starting off with that statement so you know I"m not going to be conned here..

That said, there is a lot of bull here.......fish stories etc........about pistols that never bobble or misfeed.

Maybe with ball ammo some of them are perfectly reliable, but not with factory defensive ammo..

All of them jam once in a while..

Maybe these folks haven't shot their toys very much..

I strongly believe that a lot of (not all of) these people on this post are stretching the truth..

I see all makes jam at the range..........

The one I personally see on a day to day basis as the most reliable, is the Beretta 92FS....and I attribute that to the HUGE OPEN ejection port.

I don't own a Beretta anymore, although I regret selling my last one, and I'm not endorsing it, I'm just relating my observations...

I currently carry a G22, with a G27 for backup/offduty, and they have both, (at least once) malfunctioned.

Even if the malfunction, was not to go completely back into battery, and all that was required was a tap on the rear of the slide, IT'S STILL A MALFUNCTION!

Like Dennis Miller says : "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong..[B]

Yowza · January 15, 2002, 08:58 AM

Of the guns I have, the only one that hasn't given me any kind of problems at all, has been my Springfield Compact .45

Of course, it only has about 1,000 rounds through it so far and the vast majority of those have been FMJ so I guess I just need to give it time.

Rick

Inspector Callahan · January 15, 2002, 09:15 AM

Well, maybe HK has the USP "problem" worked out now. I know I heard about some rumblings about reliability issues in the past. Judging from this thread, methinks they've got their act together now.

I'm glad to see Beretta 92s and 96s getting listed here. As DSK said, for all of the trash talk they get - they perform. Every time. Everyone should own a Beretta 92 or 96.

Stone cold reliable.

Joe Demko · January 15, 2002, 09:40 AM

HK USP 40
Beretta 92FS
Russian commercial Makarov
S&W 4566
Springfield 1911A1 (though I haven't shot it much)

Master Blaster · January 15, 2002, 09:50 AM

I would be interested to know which pistols shot in IDPA or ISPC matches have never jammed.

Hearing from folks with an entire 500 rounds fired at a paper target under ideal conditions tells me nothing at all.

Oh my g-26 1000 rounds no jams.

Khornet · January 15, 2002, 09:55 AM

Ruger Mk II Target since 1982
Ruger P90 since 1992

RBK · January 15, 2002, 09:57 AM

Makarov.

Pittsburg · January 15, 2002, 10:09 AM

-- Glock 19 with Rem and Black Hills 115gr +P JHP..... total about 2000 rounds, no malfunctions (but jammed with Corbon 115gr +P JHP many times).

-- Para Ord P14-45 with 230gr Rem Golden Saber has not malfunctioned yet, 600 rounds.

OTISZ · January 15, 2002, 10:26 AM

SIG/Sauer P-228
Beretta 85
Glock 23
Glock 20
Glock 30
HK USP .45f
HK USP .45C
HK USP .40C
Beretta 92C

I have never owned a 1911 that did not jam at one time or another. Don't get me wrong I am a 1911 fan and carry a custom LW Officers ACP daily.

Kentucky Rifle · January 15, 2002, 10:51 AM

Bertta Jetfire 950
Seecamp
Kel-Tec P-32 (Hey, I know it's an inexpensive firearm, but it's the truth!)
Colt Mustang Pocketlite
Glock 27

I clean after every range trip. (It relaxes me.) With a good pistol and good maintenance there's little chance of a jam. (IMHO!)

KR

tonyz · January 15, 2002, 10:55 AM

P90
P95
Beretta 92 FS
Kimber Custom Eclipes II
MKII
Bersa Thunder

Tony

Shmackey · January 15, 2002, 11:02 AM

CZ 75B Compact

Meowhead · January 15, 2002, 11:07 AM

Ruger Mk.II
Sig-Sauer P225

Either would digest everything I put through it.
Right after I bought the Sig, I ran around gun shops in search of crappy ammo. I bought boxes of nameless Soviet-era 9mm, ancient surplus, stuff that had obviously been sitting in someone's attic for decades..mixed it in a bowl, throwing in a few handfuls of modern FMJ, and just for kicks, some +P hollowpoints from various makers. I only had the chance to go through two hundred rounds of that mixture that day...no jams. More than a few hard primers (that went off when I just pulled the trigger again; DA is convenient) but no jams.

gbelleh · January 15, 2002, 11:15 AM

I have 2 pistols that have not malfunctioned so far:

HK USP 45 Compact
Kahr MK40

Everything else has had at least one jam.

Ruben Nasser · January 15, 2002, 11:15 AM

Even though I'm a maniac for perfect ammo, keep gun clean and lubed, good springs and mags, good shooting technique, etc., all the little details, IMHO all guns malfunction sometime, and sometimes it is a mistery why.
I would say less than 1 in 1000 is very good (...in the perfect conditions described above), and less than 1 in 2000 is excellent. I see malfunctions quite often in IPSC, with good shooters and excellent quality, clean guns shooting good ammo.

Ascot500 · January 15, 2002, 12:32 PM

Here's one that no one has mentioned:
Phoenix Arms HP-22
Yes I'm not kidding.
I once owned a Colt Police Positive revolver that would jam every so often and I would have to swing the cylider out to get to work again.

ergo: even revovers "jam"

.357SIG · January 15, 2002, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Like Dennis Miller says : "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong..

Yep, and you are, at least in my case.

It probably has a lot to do with maintenance of my equipment. I take care of my guns and they take care of me. My 91A1 only has 50 rounds through it and we'll see what the future holds for it. Other than that, I guess I'm lucky to have 6 of my pistols be jam-free.

Alnamvet · January 15, 2002, 03:09 PM

My Daisy BB Gun, lever action, "gas" operated, 12.5" @ 25 yards...now that would make White Feather proud. Oh, and never ever jammed on me, even on full auto.

P99 · January 15, 2002, 03:50 PM

Walther P99 military .40
Walther P99 QA .40
Walther PP .32
S&W 29 .44
S&W 65 .357
Walther PP .380
S&W 39 9mm

P99

January 15, 2002, 08:22 AM	#54
Larry Wright Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2001 Location: Yorktown, Va Posts: 289	S&W 459 has never jammed on me. __________________ A man with his heart in his profession finds ways and means where the worthless and lazy despair. Frederick the Great

January 15, 2002, 08:51 AM	#56
Alnamvet Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2002 Location: VA Posts: 366	My Presentation grade Vietnamese clone of M1911A1 My SE Asian clone, a rust bucket she may be, with rusty left over ammo from "the big one" never has jammed on me.

January 15, 2002, 09:15 AM	#59
Inspector Callahan Senior Member Join Date: September 1, 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 372	Well, maybe HK has the USP "problem" worked out now. I know I heard about some rumblings about reliability issues in the past. Judging from this thread, methinks they've got their act together now. I'm glad to see Beretta 92s and 96s getting listed here. As DSK said, for all of the trash talk they get - they perform. Every time. Everyone should own a Beretta 92 or 96. Stone cold reliable. __________________ If you don't understand weapons you don't understand fighting. If you don't understand fighting you don't understand war. If you don't understand war you don't understand history. And if you don't understand history you might as well live with your head in a sack. - Colonel Jeff Cooper

January 15, 2002, 09:55 AM	#62
Khornet Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: NH Posts: 585	Jam-free Ruger Mk II Target since 1982 Ruger P90 since 1992 __________________ The M1 does MY talking!

January 15, 2002, 09:57 AM	#63
RBK Registration in progress Join Date: September 26, 2000 Location: East TN Posts: 352	Makarov. __________________ "Trust but Verify" --Ronald Reagan

January 15, 2002, 04:07 AM	#51
trapshooter Junior member Join Date: January 2, 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 902	1991A1 Walther PPK/S Walther PP (.22LR) (Wish I had it back) Have two or three that I haven't got around to shooting yet, but I try to buy quality stuff. If it turns out to not be, it's history. The only reason I will get rid of a gun (lately) is because it's not reliable. I've only traded one in the last 15 years, a Springfield Ultra-Comp that FTF'd on ball. I'm not unreasonable, but if a 1911 style .45 wont feed ball, it's a paperweight. Traded for my P245 (so far NIB).

January 15, 2002, 06:27 AM	#52
E.T. Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2001 Location: Belgium (Antwerp area) Posts: 131	Is there something wrong with my eyes or doesn't the Walther P99 appear in this fine listing ? I've fired countless round of all kinds - namely LRN, JHP, FMJ and even subsonic or Action-Express - without a single malfunction. Of all the fishes in the sea, the P99 is the one for me !

January 15, 2002, 08:41 AM	#55
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	I know for a fact that my Glock 21 has never jammed on a factory round. My Colt 1911 is so old that I'm not sure, IIRC its never jammed on factory after its initial break in, and reliability upgrades (Ramp-throat-polish-ext. ejector), but I just hardly ever shoot factory anymore. Its less finiky about its reloads than the Glock though.

January 15, 2002, 08:53 AM	#57
scooter71 Member Join Date: April 22, 2000 Posts: 71	QUOTE: What makes you think your experiences are more valid than anyone elses? I think YOU may be full of it. Are you seriously saying flatout that posters here are lying? Shake.. I have extensive weapons training with the Federal Govt., and formerly with the military, as well as being a firearms instructor/range officer....I'm not bragging, just starting off with that statement so you know I"m not going to be conned here.. That said, there is a lot of bull here.......fish stories etc........about pistols that never bobble or misfeed. Maybe with ball ammo some of them are perfectly reliable, but not with factory defensive ammo.. All of them jam once in a while.. Maybe these folks haven't shot their toys very much.. I strongly believe that a lot of (not all of) these people on this post are stretching the truth.. I see all makes jam at the range.......... The one I personally see on a day to day basis as the most reliable, is the Beretta 92FS....and I attribute that to the HUGE OPEN ejection port. I don't own a Beretta anymore, although I regret selling my last one, and I'm not endorsing it, I'm just relating my observations... I currently carry a G22, with a G27 for backup/offduty, and they have both, (at least once) malfunctioned. Even if the malfunction, was not to go completely back into battery, and all that was required was a tap on the rear of the slide, IT'S STILL A MALFUNCTION! Like Dennis Miller says : "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong..[B]

January 15, 2002, 08:58 AM	#58
Yowza Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 93	Of the guns I have, the only one that hasn't given me any kind of problems at all, has been my Springfield Compact .45 Of course, it only has about 1,000 rounds through it so far and the vast majority of those have been FMJ so I guess I just need to give it time. Rick

January 15, 2002, 09:40 AM	#60
Joe Demko Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2000 Posts: 1,143	HK USP 40 Beretta 92FS Russian commercial Makarov S&W 4566 Springfield 1911A1 (though I haven't shot it much)

January 15, 2002, 09:50 AM	#61
Master Blaster Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: One of the original 13 Colonies Posts: 2,281	I would be interested to know which pistols shot in IDPA or ISPC matches have never jammed. Hearing from folks with an entire 500 rounds fired at a paper target under ideal conditions tells me nothing at all. Oh my g-26 1000 rounds no jams.

January 15, 2002, 10:09 AM	#64
Pittsburg Member Join Date: July 13, 2001 Posts: 22	-- Glock 19 with Rem and Black Hills 115gr +P JHP..... total about 2000 rounds, no malfunctions (but jammed with Corbon 115gr +P JHP many times). -- Para Ord P14-45 with 230gr Rem Golden Saber has not malfunctioned yet, 600 rounds. Last edited by Pittsburg; January 15, 2002 at 10:30 AM.

January 15, 2002, 10:26 AM	#65
OTISZ Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 1999 Location: Sandy, Or. USA Posts: 180	SIG/Sauer P-228 Beretta 85 Glock 23 Glock 20 Glock 30 HK USP .45f HK USP .45C HK USP .40C Beretta 92C I have never owned a 1911 that did not jam at one time or another. Don't get me wrong I am a 1911 fan and carry a custom LW Officers ACP daily. __________________ Molon Labe! "Millions for defense, not one dime for tribute!"

January 15, 2002, 10:51 AM	#66
Kentucky Rifle Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 1999 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 2,687	Autos that have never malfunctioned... Bertta Jetfire 950 Seecamp Kel-Tec P-32 (Hey, I know it's an inexpensive firearm, but it's the truth!) Colt Mustang Pocketlite Glock 27 I clean after every range trip. (It relaxes me.) With a good pistol and good maintenance there's little chance of a jam. (IMHO!) KR

January 15, 2002, 10:55 AM	#67
tonyz Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2000 Location: Wa Posts: 922	P90 P95 Beretta 92 FS Kimber Custom Eclipes II MKII Bersa Thunder Tony __________________ Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained

January 15, 2002, 11:02 AM	#68
Shmackey Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,117	CZ 75B Compact

January 15, 2002, 11:07 AM	#69
Meowhead Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2002 Posts: 271	Ruger Mk.II Sig-Sauer P225 Either would digest everything I put through it. Right after I bought the Sig, I ran around gun shops in search of crappy ammo. I bought boxes of nameless Soviet-era 9mm, ancient surplus, stuff that had obviously been sitting in someone's attic for decades..mixed it in a bowl, throwing in a few handfuls of modern FMJ, and just for kicks, some +P hollowpoints from various makers. I only had the chance to go through two hundred rounds of that mixture that day...no jams. More than a few hard primers (that went off when I just pulled the trigger again; DA is convenient) but no jams.

January 15, 2002, 11:15 AM	#70
gbelleh Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 435	I have 2 pistols that have not malfunctioned so far: HK USP 45 Compact Kahr MK40 Everything else has had at least one jam. __________________ gbelleh

January 15, 2002, 11:15 AM	#71
Ruben Nasser Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2000 Location: Asuncion, Paraguay Posts: 280	You guys are much luckier than me!! Even though I'm a maniac for perfect ammo, keep gun clean and lubed, good springs and mags, good shooting technique, etc., all the little details, IMHO all guns malfunction sometime, and sometimes it is a mistery why. I would say less than 1 in 1000 is very good (...in the perfect conditions described above), and less than 1 in 2000 is excellent. I see malfunctions quite often in IPSC, with good shooters and excellent quality, clean guns shooting good ammo.

January 15, 2002, 12:32 PM	#72
Ascot500 Member Join Date: December 15, 2000 Posts: 40	Here's one that no one has mentioned: Phoenix Arms HP-22 Yes I'm not kidding. I once owned a Colt Police Positive revolver that would jam every so often and I would have to swing the cylider out to get to work again. ergo: even revovers "jam"

January 15, 2002, 03:09 PM	#74
Alnamvet Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2002 Location: VA Posts: 366	My Daisy BB Gun, lever action, "gas" operated, 12.5" @ 25 yards...now that would make White Feather proud. Oh, and never ever jammed on me, even on full auto. Last edited by Alnamvet; January 15, 2002 at 10:56 PM.

January 15, 2002, 03:50 PM	#75
P99 Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2001 Location: Idaho Posts: 350	Walther P99 military .40 Walther P99 QA .40 Walther PP .32 S&W 29 .44 S&W 65 .357 Walther PP .380 S&W 39 9mm P99 __________________ I like Walther's....'nuff said