Quick question about older Para Ord frame kits........

bub75 · April 5, 2008, 11:47 PM

Hi, all. I have an older Para Ord alloy frame kit from back in the early '90's when that was all they sold. I actually forgot I had it until I started cleaning out my garage and found it stuck in a roll-around tool box that I haven't been into since I got married in 1999. I originally bought it way back when with the idea of building up a decent full-sized pistol out of it. I honestly can't remember why I bought alloy and not steel but it's a moot point now. I had put the parts from my Auto Ord 1911 in it and shot it some. It's been so long ago I honestly can't remember if it shot well or crappy. I then started hearing about frame cracks with alloy 1911 frames, so I disassembled it, put it in the tool box and forgot about it.

Is the older Para Ord stuff up to snuff? If I buy parts and build up a pistol out of it am I asking for trouble in a couple thousand rounds when the frame deforms or cracks? I'm thinking the box said P13-45 and all I see now on full-sized Para Ord pistols is P14-45. Are the mags the same or am I looking at an orphan now? Thanks for any help you can give me.

Bub

darrentxs · April 6, 2008, 12:21 AM

I can say only that the P13 is the Colt Commander size frame & P14 is the full size 1911. Both were made for double stack magazines. The P13 mags are different than P14 mags. The P13 mag holds 13 rounds & the P14 magazines hold 14. 10 round magazines are available for both as well.

I can offer no input as to the quality of your frame. I can say that I have an early P13 (full gun) with a steel frame that I bought new in 1994. It has been a great gun with no issues other than the mag springs became weak over the years and were replaced.

April 5, 2008, 11:47 PM	#1
bub75 Member Join Date: November 28, 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 51	Quick question about older Para Ord frame kits........ Hi, all. I have an older Para Ord alloy frame kit from back in the early '90's when that was all they sold. I actually forgot I had it until I started cleaning out my garage and found it stuck in a roll-around tool box that I haven't been into since I got married in 1999. I originally bought it way back when with the idea of building up a decent full-sized pistol out of it. I honestly can't remember why I bought alloy and not steel but it's a moot point now. I had put the parts from my Auto Ord 1911 in it and shot it some. It's been so long ago I honestly can't remember if it shot well or crappy. I then started hearing about frame cracks with alloy 1911 frames, so I disassembled it, put it in the tool box and forgot about it. Is the older Para Ord stuff up to snuff? If I buy parts and build up a pistol out of it am I asking for trouble in a couple thousand rounds when the frame deforms or cracks? I'm thinking the box said P13-45 and all I see now on full-sized Para Ord pistols is P14-45. Are the mags the same or am I looking at an orphan now? Thanks for any help you can give me. Bub

April 6, 2008, 12:21 AM	#2
darrentxs Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 401	I can say only that the P13 is the Colt Commander size frame & P14 is the full size 1911. Both were made for double stack magazines. The P13 mags are different than P14 mags. The P13 mag holds 13 rounds & the P14 magazines hold 14. 10 round magazines are available for both as well. I can offer no input as to the quality of your frame. I can say that I have an early P13 (full gun) with a steel frame that I bought new in 1994. It has been a great gun with no issues other than the mag springs became weak over the years and were replaced. __________________ Happy Trails to You Last edited by darrentxs; April 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM.