Would you consider buying Taurus? - Page 2

22-rimfire · June 11, 2007, 09:59 PM

Not me given the way the poll was phrased. I would consider buying a Taurus revolver. In particular I'm interested in the 4410. Probably would be better to ask if you would choose consider buying a Taurus when looking at Rugers. With Smiths and Colts, there is no contest.

pinotguy · June 11, 2007, 10:01 PM

A resounding "NO" if it's only in the calibers listed above.

A definite "YES" if they ever get around to introducing their 10mm revos. I'm a sucker for the cartridge - especially in a wheelie.

obxned · June 12, 2007, 12:08 AM

Been looking at'm, but haven't bought (yet).

Qwiks draw · June 12, 2007, 01:34 AM

06-10-2007, 06:49 AM #14
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Posts: 279 As a owner of a PT111 Mil/pro, PT22, model 65,66,85CH, and 94, all Taurus that Taurus does put out decent products. All of these have given excellent service and some are 15+ years old. Longevity and dureability have been the bywords.

In 2005 Taurus won three prestigious awards in the gun industry overall as well as several NRA awards about the same time or even more recently.

The 3 major awards are as follows: Shooting Industry Manufacturer of the Year; National Association Of Sporting Goods Wholesalers of the Year; SHOT Business Manufacture of the Year.

So Taurus has to be doing something right and putting out good products.Otherwise these would not have been awarded. Competition is fierce. These awards are not just handed out.

" Conventional Wisdom" to the contrary Taurus is doing things right for the most part. And...."Conventional Wisdom" is not always wise.
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The above is a quote by yours truly in another thread.

I did not vote because I consider other companies makes and models on merits even though I own a number of Taurus revolvers. I do own other makers products, but the Tauri meet every criterea and fill every niche. The Taurus revolvers get used more than anything else. That will be true for a long time to come.

JR47 · June 12, 2007, 09:14 AM

Where in the name of Sam Colt does this silly idea that Brazilian steel is different as to hardness come from? Steel formulations are pretty well known by now, and are nearly universally adhered to. If Brazilian steel is somehow inferior, then Springfiels Armory 1911s have a problem, as their slide and frame are forged in Brazil. Surprise, many South American manufacturers use parts forged in Brazil in their weapons, some of which are imported here, and have rave reviews.

Please, how about a citation explaining where you got this from, and sources doing the testing.

We own over a dozen Taurus handguns, as well as literally dozens of Colts, S&W, Ruger, and various other makes. In the past nearly thirty years, I've sent back many more of the various other makes than Taurus (1).

I actually buy what I like, not what some Internet Commando proudly proclaims as his or her "ONLY choice". I do, however, check the weapons thoroughly, no matter the brand. This includes an intial check for cosmetic defects, alignment of the barrel in revolvers, the ability to accept snap-caps in all of the charge holes, the trigger action, and general tightness. Semi-autos are field stripped for a quick look around. ALL weapons are cleaned PRIOR to shooting, and lubed properly. Magazines are also inspected prior to the purchase, and then also cleaned. Not buying a problem saves 75% of the trouble, and cleaning and lubing another 10-15%. The rest is beyond my control from just a cursory inspection.

All too many of the brand-bashers have BOUGHT a weapon with mis-aligned sights, or cosmetic defects, or tight charge holes, etc., and are NOW upset at the factory, instead of themselves.

hj28rules · June 12, 2007, 09:15 AM

I voted yes because I have a Taurus Model 66B4 .357 with a 4" barrel. With more than 1200 rounds through this revolver, it is still a solid performer. Also, it was about half the price of an S&W. I also have a S&W M10 that I am fond of. When I went to look at a new revolver, I was amazed at the high prices of even used S&W's.

Manedwolf · June 12, 2007, 09:20 AM

Yes. The bashers are mostly me-too forum sorts who have never owned one, who heard something bad their uncle's friend's inlaw's cousin said about one they had twenty years ago. It's like saying that a new Acura TL is no good based on a 1983 CVCC. Same company. Time passes. Taurus has been innovating, S&W's quality level has DROPPED quite a bit!

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Taurus steel is barazilian made and is softer steel than the american counterparts, thats why i prefer american made

Congratulations, that's the most ignorant and patently wrong comment I've seen on a gun board in years. Bonus points for the worst spelling of "Brazilian" I've ever seen as well.

kentucky_smith · June 12, 2007, 09:28 AM

I did, with the price difference between a Taurus 651 protector .357 and a Smith and Wesson 640, I thought it would be worth it to try the Taurus out. I'll let you know what I find out.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/26237

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/32126

ronto · June 12, 2007, 09:37 AM

Bottom Feeder = Yes
Revolver = No

Wildalaska · June 12, 2007, 09:55 AM

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Yes. The bashers are mostly me-too forum sorts who have never owned one, who heard something bad their uncle's friend's inlaw's cousin said about one they had twenty years ago.

Except for those of thus in the industry who have to deal with the crap they put out

Wildiwontevengettothesteelissuebutyouwillwhenyoushoot300roundsfroma454ragingbullAlaska

neight · June 12, 2007, 10:40 AM

i have first-hand experience w/ a couple of them. my buddy had one in .357 (not sure the exact model number, but it was the model designed to be about the size of a smith model 19). he bought it used because it was cheap, not really knowing anything about guns. well ... it was terrible. the lockup was very loose, the gun was out of time ... it just seemed like the gun had been worn out. trigger pull was nevertheless very gritty (you'd think it would have smoothed up if it was shot that much).

that being said, he replaced it with a newer and clearly less-used taurus that seems to be a very decent handgun. my uncle has a .357 taurus snubbie that's really pretty nice too. the action and trigger are more gritty than a smith, but i guess that's to be expected. the finish of the metal isnt bad at all, less machining marks than on some rugers ive seen.

im willing to forgive the first one as a bad example, i.e. over-used and out of time. but i guess that's also my problem with them ... a ruger doesnt cost much more, and im not sure if its even possible to get a ruger in the condition of that taurus thru shooting (it would take a lot more shooting, at least).

OneShotOnly! · June 12, 2007, 11:48 AM

Taurus is a good compnay, but if you pitch its revolvers against SW and Ruger.....forget about it. It does not even come close. Specially, in extensive use.

JR47 · June 12, 2007, 12:08 PM

Well, there go the polls. Why word polls to support your own prejudices?

Wild, I've also been "in the industry" over the years. Unfortunately, I haven't been witness to the same problems as you. All of the local shops carry Taurus handguns as a matter of course, and have for decades. In speaking with them, they are all unaware of major problems with the product, and all five that I've posed this question too intend to continue to carry the line. They also will ship a weapon with a warranty issue back for you.

ronto, is that a self-description, or a supposed to be meaningful comment?

neight, so both of these revolvers were used? I still have my 3" Model 66, that I bought about 20 years ago. Steady diet of .357 Mag , and a smooth single and double-action trigger. Only change has been a set of Hogue grips. It's hard to assign blame to the factory associated with a used handgun. The fact that S&W Model 29s shoot loose in as little as 700 rounds of full-power loads, in the earlier versions, has to be taken into account when buying one used. It's just the price of the package.

Wildalaska · June 12, 2007, 12:23 PM

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Unfortunately, I haven't been witness to the same problems as you.

Well JR. no more than 24 hours ago I held a 99% exterior condition raging bull that was out of time after 300 rounds.

The little revolvers 38 and below I suppose are adequate, although you can buy a Smith for a few $$ more......

WildrestarejunkAlaska

Doug.38PR · June 12, 2007, 12:35 PM

If Colt or S&W is available, why would I consider a cheap third world made gun

50 shooter · June 12, 2007, 12:35 PM

Just 300 WA?

My .454 RB probably has 4 times that through it without a problem. ANY gun manufacturer can put out a lemon it's not just limited to Taurus.

Manedwolf · June 12, 2007, 01:28 PM

BTW, if you're asking about the 4410, it's AWESOME. I have the stainless one, and it's a solid gun. The cylinder turns and locks with a nice, solid "clunk", very smooth, and it's surprisingly accurate.

And the shotshells are just too much fun. It's my "house gun", going from birdshot to #000 to corbon 45 LC hollowpoints.

Wildalaska · June 12, 2007, 01:33 PM

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ANY gun manufacturer can put out a lemon it's not just limited to Taurus.

True, just some put out an elegant plate of slices, whilst others give you a truckload

WildanalogyboyAlaska

Jkwas · June 12, 2007, 01:46 PM

There's no sense in beating a dead horse, Except for the pure pleasure of it

Honestly folks, everyone has their favorite, can't we just let it be? Let's get a cup of coffee and find something more productive to do.

You'd swear a Taurus rep stole their girlfriend the way they talk about them

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christcorp · June 12, 2007, 04:00 PM

In the Immortal Words of that great American; "Rodney King"; who once said:

"Oooo; Ouuuuch; Aaaaaah; Stopppppp; Eeeeeeek; Ooooooh; Aaaaaaah;"

Oops, sorry. I think it was; "Can't we all just get along"?

JR47 · June 12, 2007, 08:39 PM

I held a S&W Model 29-7 that the seller swore had "less than 100 full-power loads through it" that had enough end-shake to register on the Righter scale. It, too, was well cared for in the cosmetics department. I also sent back a Sig P229, at about 500 rounds. It had this odd crack in the slide. Or how about the HK USP that wouldn't group below 6", in a Ransom Rest? Brand new, I was the owner.

I'm actually forced to admit that my Taurus and Ruger handguns have given me less trouble than the high dollar ones. At the prices Sig, HK, or S&W charge, they really SHOULD be troublefree.

leadslinger07 · June 12, 2007, 08:44 PM

IMHO if a revolver isnt made in amercia than it's crap. Smith and Wesson is the best there ever has been and will be.

sdj · June 12, 2007, 08:58 PM

I would, but I would have to fire a number of them to get a feel for them.

JR47 · June 13, 2007, 06:35 AM

Ever heard of a Korth? It's not made in America, but it is acknowledged as the current "Finest Revolver Made".

S&W is S&W, and QC has been all over the place since the 1960's. Most people a few years ago wouldn't buy one, something to do with selling-out to the Clintons.

Ivory Grips · June 13, 2007, 08:38 PM

My main carry piece is my trusty Taurus model 85 snubby. I rarely leave home without it. It's a very well made handgun. I'd compare it with the very first handgun I've owned, a S&W model 15 purchased new back in 1967. The quality is built into the model 85, and anyone who owns one knows what I'm talking about. It's the first Taurus I've ever owned. I cannot speak for other Taurus models, as I've never owned any other Taurus than the 85. If other Taurus models are as good as my 85, well then sure I'd buy another one.

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Yes	92	55.09%
No	75	44.91%
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June 12, 2007, 12:08 AM	#28
obxned Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2007 Location: OBX, NC Posts: 1,128	Been looking at'm, but haven't bought (yet). __________________ “If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth.” Ronald Reagan I'm a proud member of a North Carolina *Committee of Safety*

June 12, 2007, 12:35 PM	#41
50 shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2002 Location: SoCal PRK Posts: 986	Just 300 WA? My .454 RB probably has 4 times that through it without a problem. ANY gun manufacturer can put out a lemon it's not just limited to Taurus. __________________ I see the world thru bloodshot eyes Streets filled with blood from distant lies The dogs of war never compromise, No time for rearranging.

June 12, 2007, 01:46 PM	#44
Jkwas Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Mouth of the Rat, Florida Posts: 1,778	I love reading the Taurus threads.... There's no sense in beating a dead horse, Except for the pure pleasure of it Honestly folks, everyone has their favorite, can't we just let it be? Let's get a cup of coffee and find something more productive to do. You'd swear a Taurus rep stole their girlfriend the way they talk about them . __________________ I grew up in New Jersey, but later moved to Florida and made a complete recovery. Keltec: The BIC lighter of handguns http://jkwasblog.blogspot.com/

June 12, 2007, 08:39 PM	#46
JR47 Junior member Join Date: August 9, 2005 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,228	I held a S&W Model 29-7 that the seller swore had "less than 100 full-power loads through it" that had enough end-shake to register on the Righter scale. It, too, was well cared for in the cosmetics department. I also sent back a Sig P229, at about 500 rounds. It had this odd crack in the slide. Or how about the HK USP that wouldn't group below 6", in a Ransom Rest? Brand new, I was the owner. I'm actually forced to admit that my Taurus and Ruger handguns have given me less trouble than the high dollar ones. At the prices Sig, HK, or S&W charge, they really SHOULD be troublefree. Last edited by JR47; June 13, 2007 at 06:32 AM.

June 11, 2007, 09:59 PM	#26
22-rimfire Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,323	Not me given the way the poll was phrased. I would consider buying a Taurus revolver. In particular I'm interested in the 4410. Probably would be better to ask if you would choose consider buying a Taurus when looking at Rugers. With Smiths and Colts, there is no contest.

June 11, 2007, 10:01 PM	#27
pinotguy Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 143	A resounding "NO" if it's only in the calibers listed above. A definite "YES" if they ever get around to introducing their 10mm revos. I'm a sucker for the cartridge - especially in a wheelie.

June 12, 2007, 01:34 AM	#29
Qwiks draw Junior member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Posts: 879	06-10-2007, 06:49 AM #14 Qwiks draw Senior Member Join Date: 08-14-2006 Location: S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 279 As a owner of a PT111 Mil/pro, PT22, model 65,66,85CH, and 94, all Taurus that Taurus does put out decent products. All of these have given excellent service and some are 15+ years old. Longevity and dureability have been the bywords. In 2005 Taurus won three prestigious awards in the gun industry overall as well as several NRA awards about the same time or even more recently. The 3 major awards are as follows: Shooting Industry Manufacturer of the Year; National Association Of Sporting Goods Wholesalers of the Year; SHOT Business Manufacture of the Year. So Taurus has to be doing something right and putting out good products.Otherwise these would not have been awarded. Competition is fierce. These awards are not just handed out. " Conventional Wisdom" to the contrary Taurus is doing things right for the most part. And...."Conventional Wisdom" is not always wise. __________________ NRA member- Join the NRA or pro-gun group. Stand up and be counted. www.taurusarmed.net The above is a quote by yours truly in another thread. I did not vote because I consider other companies makes and models on merits even though I own a number of Taurus revolvers. I do own other makers products, but the Tauri meet every criterea and fill every niche. The Taurus revolvers get used more than anything else. That will be true for a long time to come.

June 12, 2007, 09:14 AM	#30
JR47 Junior member Join Date: August 9, 2005 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,228	Where in the name of Sam Colt does this silly idea that Brazilian steel is different as to hardness come from? Steel formulations are pretty well known by now, and are nearly universally adhered to. If Brazilian steel is somehow inferior, then Springfiels Armory 1911s have a problem, as their slide and frame are forged in Brazil. Surprise, many South American manufacturers use parts forged in Brazil in their weapons, some of which are imported here, and have rave reviews. Please, how about a citation explaining where you got this from, and sources doing the testing. We own over a dozen Taurus handguns, as well as literally dozens of Colts, S&W, Ruger, and various other makes. In the past nearly thirty years, I've sent back many more of the various other makes than Taurus (1). I actually buy what I like, not what some Internet Commando proudly proclaims as his or her "ONLY choice". I do, however, check the weapons thoroughly, no matter the brand. This includes an intial check for cosmetic defects, alignment of the barrel in revolvers, the ability to accept snap-caps in all of the charge holes, the trigger action, and general tightness. Semi-autos are field stripped for a quick look around. ALL weapons are cleaned PRIOR to shooting, and lubed properly. Magazines are also inspected prior to the purchase, and then also cleaned. Not buying a problem saves 75% of the trouble, and cleaning and lubing another 10-15%. The rest is beyond my control from just a cursory inspection. All too many of the brand-bashers have BOUGHT a weapon with mis-aligned sights, or cosmetic defects, or tight charge holes, etc., and are NOW upset at the factory, instead of themselves.

June 12, 2007, 09:15 AM	#31
hj28rules Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Location: Texas Cross Timbers Posts: 278	I voted yes because I have a Taurus Model 66B4 .357 with a 4" barrel. With more than 1200 rounds through this revolver, it is still a solid performer. Also, it was about half the price of an S&W. I also have a S&W M10 that I am fond of. When I went to look at a new revolver, I was amazed at the high prices of even used S&W's.

June 12, 2007, 09:28 AM	#33
kentucky_smith Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2005 Posts: 173	I did, with the price difference between a Taurus 651 protector .357 and a Smith and Wesson 640, I thought it would be worth it to try the Taurus out. I'll let you know what I find out. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/26237 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/32126

June 12, 2007, 09:37 AM	#34
ronto Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2007 Location: Smack Dab in the Middle of Nowhere. Posts: 505	Bottom Feeder = Yes Revolver = No

June 12, 2007, 10:40 AM	#36
neight Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Posts: 24	i have first-hand experience w/ a couple of them. my buddy had one in .357 (not sure the exact model number, but it was the model designed to be about the size of a smith model 19). he bought it used because it was cheap, not really knowing anything about guns. well ... it was terrible. the lockup was very loose, the gun was out of time ... it just seemed like the gun had been worn out. trigger pull was nevertheless very gritty (you'd think it would have smoothed up if it was shot that much). that being said, he replaced it with a newer and clearly less-used taurus that seems to be a very decent handgun. my uncle has a .357 taurus snubbie that's really pretty nice too. the action and trigger are more gritty than a smith, but i guess that's to be expected. the finish of the metal isnt bad at all, less machining marks than on some rugers ive seen. im willing to forgive the first one as a bad example, i.e. over-used and out of time. but i guess that's also my problem with them ... a ruger doesnt cost much more, and im not sure if its even possible to get a ruger in the condition of that taurus thru shooting (it would take a lot more shooting, at least).

June 12, 2007, 11:48 AM	#37
OneShotOnly! Junior member Join Date: May 28, 2007 Location: Next door Posts: 161	Taurus is a good compnay, but if you pitch its revolvers against SW and Ruger.....forget about it. It does not even come close. Specially, in extensive use.

June 12, 2007, 12:08 PM	#38
JR47 Junior member Join Date: August 9, 2005 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,228	Well, there go the polls. Why word polls to support your own prejudices? Wild, I've also been "in the industry" over the years. Unfortunately, I haven't been witness to the same problems as you. All of the local shops carry Taurus handguns as a matter of course, and have for decades. In speaking with them, they are all unaware of major problems with the product, and all five that I've posed this question too intend to continue to carry the line. They also will ship a weapon with a warranty issue back for you. ronto, is that a self-description, or a supposed to be meaningful comment? neight, so both of these revolvers were used? I still have my 3" Model 66, that I bought about 20 years ago. Steady diet of .357 Mag , and a smooth single and double-action trigger. Only change has been a set of Hogue grips. It's hard to assign blame to the factory associated with a used handgun. The fact that S&W Model 29s shoot loose in as little as 700 rounds of full-power loads, in the earlier versions, has to be taken into account when buying one used. It's just the price of the package.

June 12, 2007, 12:35 PM	#40
Doug.38PR Junior member Join Date: January 18, 2005 Posts: 3,298	If Colt or S&W is available, why would I consider a cheap third world made gun

June 12, 2007, 01:28 PM	#42
Manedwolf Junior member Join Date: May 28, 2007 Posts: 3,266	BTW, if you're asking about the 4410, it's AWESOME. I have the stainless one, and it's a solid gun. The cylinder turns and locks with a nice, solid "clunk", very smooth, and it's surprisingly accurate. And the shotshells are just too much fun. It's my "house gun", going from birdshot to #000 to corbon 45 LC hollowpoints.

June 12, 2007, 04:00 PM	#45
christcorp Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Cheyenne, Wyoming Posts: 1,111	In the Immortal Words of that great American; "Rodney King"; who once said: "Oooo; Ouuuuch; Aaaaaah; Stopppppp; Eeeeeeek; Ooooooh; Aaaaaaah;" Oops, sorry. I think it was; "Can't we all just get along"?

June 12, 2007, 08:44 PM	#47
leadslinger07 Member Join Date: June 3, 2007 Location: Columbia City IN Posts: 18	IMHO if a revolver isnt made in amercia than it's crap. Smith and Wesson is the best there ever has been and will be.

June 12, 2007, 08:58 PM	#48
sdj Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2005 Posts: 462	Toro Toro Toro I would, but I would have to fire a number of them to get a feel for them.

June 13, 2007, 06:35 AM	#49
JR47 Junior member Join Date: August 9, 2005 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,228	Ever heard of a Korth? It's not made in America, but it is acknowledged as the current "Finest Revolver Made". S&W is S&W, and QC has been all over the place since the 1960's. Most people a few years ago wouldn't buy one, something to do with selling-out to the Clintons.

June 13, 2007, 08:38 PM	#50
Ivory Grips Senior Member Join Date: December 25, 2006 Posts: 239	Taurus model 85 My main carry piece is my trusty Taurus model 85 snubby. I rarely leave home without it. It's a very well made handgun. I'd compare it with the very first handgun I've owned, a S&W model 15 purchased new back in 1967. The quality is built into the model 85, and anyone who owns one knows what I'm talking about. It's the first Taurus I've ever owned. I cannot speak for other Taurus models, as I've never owned any other Taurus than the 85. If other Taurus models are as good as my 85, well then sure I'd buy another one.