If All Hell Broke Loose & You Could Have Just One 9mm - Page 3

Blackhawk · December 11, 2002, 11:24 AM

Glock. (sigh....)

LiveWire · December 11, 2002, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Glock 17 for the reliability and 17-rd mags, as long as it's not on the "frame upgrade" list.

Hah! I have one of those "stigmatized" Glocks, and guess what...

2000+ rounds and counting!

I also own a 1997 Cavalier with 32,000 miles on it and as yet no spontaneous airbag deployments.

I'll continue to scoff at all recalls...

until my face is stamped flat against the headrest.

y2jrock60 · December 11, 2002, 11:42 AM

I wish to have Glock 18 with about 50 extra full mags

Jay C · December 11, 2002, 01:03 PM

I will want my HK P7M8!!!

CZ Gunner · December 11, 2002, 01:06 PM

CZ-75B with high caps 15-round mags.

Would like to try some of those 30-round mags for the CZ-75B that I saw in Cabelas (or was it BassProShop) catalog last month?

Anyone have some?

Chris W · December 11, 2002, 02:16 PM

Glock. Duh.

Ayteeone · December 11, 2002, 04:13 PM

"one 9mm..."

How about a .358 Winchester!

Or a .357 magnum...

maybe a 35 Whelen for bigger stuff.

All are very close to .355, aka 9mm.

You didn't say Handgun!

Kahrma from Shooters · December 11, 2002, 04:33 PM

Easy, the BHP which has the most time under it's belt in real time , "been there done that" War.

Being reliable, accurate and pretty don't hurt either!

Next, #2 would be the CZ and #3 the Sig.

BTW, they make good 17 round BHP mags if the Cap is an issue to the Glockies and with less BULK.

John G · December 11, 2002, 04:43 PM

Browning. The best there is.

Dr.Rob · December 11, 2002, 04:46 PM

The BHP is arguably the most issued/copied/produced 9mm ever.

That's why I picked it. Oh and that's what I shoot the most.

Shawn3879 · December 11, 2002, 04:47 PM

Glock. The Mother of the SHTF guns.

Futo Inu · December 11, 2002, 04:59 PM

Have to go with a Glock 34. CZ second choice. Available mags.

HandgunShooter · December 11, 2002, 04:59 PM

How come the people who really train for SHTF, like those special forces that actually have a good chance of having to shoot in anger, all picked H&K USP or SIG 226 over the Glock?

kahrma · December 11, 2002, 08:29 PM

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How come the people who really train for SHTF, like those special forces that actually have a good chance of having to shoot in anger, all picked H&K USP or SIG 226 over the Glock?
____________________________________________________

That is just what I was thinking.

m.i.sanders · December 11, 2002, 09:21 PM

I had to go with the XD. Out of all of them that I've had a chance to shoot, it fit's better. Glocks are just to fat for me to get a good grip.

CWL · December 11, 2002, 10:27 PM

I'd bring my own H&K P7M8.

I'll keep my extra pair for backups.

defox · December 11, 2002, 11:37 PM

From your list.. the Glock 17..this baby was born big and fully immunized..no nursing, pampers or nipple bottle needed.
Don't forget the underwater kit modification for it..I mean you did say 'If all hell broke loose'

Overall, the Beretta 92FS. Sigs and HKs are overpriced and overrated. The CZs are nice but Beretta gets the edge in reliability..The BHP marches on but I think the Beretta has surpassed it.. The XD needs some time to prove itself!!

BILLY THE KID · December 12, 2002, 05:43 AM

I would take the USP just because it was on the list. i would really take P7M8 with about 10 extra rounds

rauchman · December 12, 2002, 10:38 AM

I voted for the 226. I have a BHP on the way so I can't comment on it. For me it comes down to reliability and hitting potential (accuracy). I've never had any kind of malf with the 226, and I'm the most accurate out of any 9mm with it.

Erich · December 12, 2002, 10:52 AM

rauchman has a good point about not being able to comment on the pistols he hasn't fired.

How many folks who've posted and voted have tested all of the listed pistols? Are some people just voting on a combination of experience and hearsay? Or just hearsay? Heck, I've never even fired that model of H&K or that Slovak Springfield thing (though I've put at least a box through all of the other models, and a lot more than that through some). Shoot, how many "special forces" types actually test anything before deciding what to carry; I thought that the military pretty much just gives you what they want to issue. Maybe that "Army of One" nonsense has changed everything . . .

It occurs to me that the fundamental problem of polls like this is that one don't have to know what he's talking about to have a say. Makes the results (which I haven't even looked at, btw) pretty much worthless for determining what's actually best.

Sort of like many elections I've seen . . .

(Apologies for my grumpiness this morning, by the way. I don't know what's wrong with me.)

J.Bourne · December 12, 2002, 11:02 AM

Erich and others:

The most interesting thing I've taken away from this poll is that the Browning and CZ have done amazingly well in the face of competition from allegedly more 'evolved' designs.

I'm simply awestruck to see how well those particular hg's have done. And I own and love a CZ, though I voted for the Glock for the reasons I stated earlier.

The biggest problem with this poll is that I forgot to include the Beretta 92 (and its variants) and Walther P99, which would have no doubt altered the percentages in an unpredictable manner (for example, how many votes would the Beretta have stolen from the Browning or the CZ, amongst others).

The one thing that can't be argued is that the BHP and CZ seem to be timeless.

Regards.

dsteinman · December 12, 2002, 12:38 PM

Any 9 that I could get several pre-ban high cap mags for..

Clemmo · December 12, 2002, 12:41 PM

P226 without a doubt.

jroth · December 12, 2002, 12:47 PM

I take the BHP as it has definetly passed the test of time,
and as back-up a S&WM39-2

INTREPIDWIZARD · December 12, 2002, 01:20 PM

Never grab a pistol,grab a Winchester 1300 Marine with #1 buck and #4 buck with 00, and slugs on the stock.

View Poll Results: If Hell On Earth Broke Out & You Could Only Have One 9mm
Glock 17	80	31.25%
SIG-Sauer 226	37	14.45%
CZ-75	40	15.63%
Browning HP	60	23.44%
Springfield XD	14	5.47%
HK USP-9	25	9.77%
Voters: 256. You may not vote on this poll

December 11, 2002, 01:06 PM	#55
CZ Gunner Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 799	CZ-75B with high caps 15-round mags. Would like to try some of those 30-round mags for the CZ-75B that I saw in Cabelas (or was it BassProShop) catalog last month? Anyone have some? __________________ Gunner "Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." -- Vegitius, c. 375 AD

December 11, 2002, 04:43 PM	#59
John G Senior Member Join Date: March 27, 1999 Location: Western NY Posts: 250	Browning. The best there is. __________________ "One is backfire, three is gunplay" -James Caan, The Way of the Gun

December 11, 2002, 04:46 PM	#60
Dr.Rob Staff Alumnus Join Date: July 28, 1999 Location: Denver Posts: 2,454	The BHP is arguably the most issued/copied/produced 9mm ever. That's why I picked it. Oh and that's what I shoot the most. __________________ You broke into the wrong Rec Room!

December 11, 2002, 04:59 PM	#62
Futo Inu Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 1999 Location: Oklahoma City, OK, USA Posts: 3,624	Have to go with a Glock 34. CZ second choice. Available mags. __________________ "You are NOT Joseph's father, Hank. You are not supposed to take over until Dale is gunned down by federal agents - that is the agreement." --Peggy

December 11, 2002, 11:24 AM	#51
Blackhawk Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2001 Posts: 5,040	Glock. (sigh....)

December 11, 2002, 11:42 AM	#53
y2jrock60 Member Join Date: October 19, 2002 Location: PA Posts: 37	I wish to have Glock 18 with about 50 extra full mags

December 11, 2002, 01:03 PM	#54
Jay C Member Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: CT Posts: 52	I will want my HK P7M8!!!

December 11, 2002, 02:16 PM	#56
Chris W Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2002 Location: Central WA Posts: 450	Glock. Duh.

December 11, 2002, 04:13 PM	#57
Ayteeone Member Join Date: December 2, 2002 Posts: 51	"one 9mm..." How about a .358 Winchester! Or a .357 magnum... maybe a 35 Whelen for bigger stuff. All are very close to .355, aka 9mm. You didn't say Handgun!

December 11, 2002, 04:33 PM	#58
Kahrma from Shooters Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2002 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 166	Easy, the BHP which has the most time under it's belt in real time , "been there done that" War. Being reliable, accurate and pretty don't hurt either! Next, #2 would be the CZ and #3 the Sig. BTW, they make good 17 round BHP mags if the Cap is an issue to the Glockies and with less BULK.

December 11, 2002, 04:47 PM	#61
Shawn3879 Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2002 Posts: 156	Glock. The Mother of the SHTF guns.

December 11, 2002, 04:59 PM	#63
HandgunShooter Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2002 Location: California Posts: 111	How come the people who really train for SHTF, like those special forces that actually have a good chance of having to shoot in anger, all picked H&K USP or SIG 226 over the Glock?

December 11, 2002, 08:29 PM	#64
kahrma Senior Member Join Date: June 26, 2002 Location: The jungle Posts: 369	HandgunShooter Member Registered: 10-21-2002 Location: California Posts: 71 How come the people who really train for SHTF, like those special forces that actually have a good chance of having to shoot in anger, all picked H&K USP or SIG 226 over the Glock? ____________________________________________________ That is just what I was thinking. __________________ Hee Yaaa! Karate chop!

December 11, 2002, 09:21 PM	#65
m.i.sanders Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2002 Location: Upstate South Carolina Posts: 127	I had to go with the XD. Out of all of them that I've had a chance to shoot, it fit's better. Glocks are just to fat for me to get a good grip. __________________ MOLON LABE THR (My other home) Grassroots SC "How can something seem so plausible at the time and so idiotic in retrospect?" -Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes

December 11, 2002, 10:27 PM	#66
CWL Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,576	I'd bring my own H&K P7M8. I'll keep my extra pair for backups. __________________ Vae Victis

December 11, 2002, 11:37 PM	#67
defox Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2001 Posts: 242	From your list.. the Glock 17..this baby was born big and fully immunized..no nursing, pampers or nipple bottle needed. Don't forget the underwater kit modification for it..I mean you did say 'If all hell broke loose' Overall, the Beretta 92FS. Sigs and HKs are overpriced and overrated. The CZs are nice but Beretta gets the edge in reliability..The BHP marches on but I think the Beretta has surpassed it.. The XD needs some time to prove itself!!

December 12, 2002, 05:43 AM	#68
BILLY THE KID Member Join Date: November 10, 2002 Location: P.A. Posts: 34	I would take the USP just because it was on the list. i would really take P7M8 with about 10 extra rounds __________________ LIFE IS SHORT PLAY HARD

December 12, 2002, 10:38 AM	#69
rauchman Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2001 Location: nj Posts: 186	I voted for the 226. I have a BHP on the way so I can't comment on it. For me it comes down to reliability and hitting potential (accuracy). I've never had any kind of malf with the 226, and I'm the most accurate out of any 9mm with it.

December 12, 2002, 10:52 AM	#70
Erich Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA Posts: 2,543	This is all nice for fun, but rauchman has a good point about not being able to comment on the pistols he hasn't fired. How many folks who've posted and voted have tested all of the listed pistols? Are some people just voting on a combination of experience and hearsay? Or just hearsay? Heck, I've never even fired that model of H&K or that Slovak Springfield thing (though I've put at least a box through all of the other models, and a lot more than that through some). Shoot, how many "special forces" types actually test anything before deciding what to carry; I thought that the military pretty much just gives you what they want to issue. Maybe that "Army of One" nonsense has changed everything . . . It occurs to me that the fundamental problem of polls like this is that one don't have to know what he's talking about to have a say. Makes the results (which I haven't even looked at, btw) pretty much worthless for determining what's actually best. Sort of like many elections I've seen . . . (Apologies for my grumpiness this morning, by the way. I don't know what's wrong with me.)

December 12, 2002, 11:02 AM	#71
J.Bourne Member Join Date: December 10, 2002 Posts: 92	Erich and others: The most interesting thing I've taken away from this poll is that the Browning and CZ have done amazingly well in the face of competition from allegedly more 'evolved' designs. I'm simply awestruck to see how well those particular hg's have done. And I own and love a CZ, though I voted for the Glock for the reasons I stated earlier. The biggest problem with this poll is that I forgot to include the Beretta 92 (and its variants) and Walther P99, which would have no doubt altered the percentages in an unpredictable manner (for example, how many votes would the Beretta have stolen from the Browning or the CZ, amongst others). The one thing that can't be argued is that the BHP and CZ seem to be timeless. Regards.

December 12, 2002, 12:38 PM	#72
dsteinman Member Join Date: August 12, 2002 Location: Sterling, Va. Posts: 36	Any 9 that I could get several pre-ban high cap mags for..

December 12, 2002, 12:41 PM	#73
Clemmo Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Posts: 53	P226 without a doubt.

December 12, 2002, 12:47 PM	#74
jroth Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2002 Posts: 130	9mm for "hell broke loose" I take the BHP as it has definetly passed the test of time, and as back-up a S&WM39-2

December 12, 2002, 01:20 PM	#75
INTREPIDWIZARD Junior Member Join Date: December 11, 2002 Location: SIERRA Posts: 5	Never grab a pistol,grab a Winchester 1300 Marine with #1 buck and #4 buck with 00, and slugs on the stock.