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May 20, 2009, 04:50 PM | #26 | |
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Nopw us guys that pay our cc bills on time and have nice low rates and no fees and perqs are gonna get screwed as the banks spread the loss from deadbeats around. And the gun ammendment is great WildnowicancarryindenaliAlaska ™ |
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Still can't carry in Yosemite. But the place is so crowded I don't think there's room to draw anyway.
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Bull. Read the contract. If you don't like it, don't deal with that company. If it's a policy they all use, don't carry a credit card. There are no "victims", only people who don't read contracts or who think "it'll never happen to me..."
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Funny how they can get away with wrapping so many seemingly disparate issues into one law. I often wonder why we would allow this.... besides we don't need any help pulling our threads off topic.
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I'm glad they split the bill. Even when the hoodwinking works towards my own views, I don't like how they tie in unrelated legislation into things pretty much guaranteed to pass. I think each thing should be voted on individually. I understand that some bulk legislation would be a tidal wave if it wasn't tied together in a single vote, but I really don't care if the have to work late hours and, God forbid, work the same hours we do without break to make sure that all legislation gets fair consideration.
That said, Kudos. It's amazing the commentary between say a Huffington Post comment thread and one here. Polar opposites and it's just mind boggling how anti's think that this means that any goon with a gun will be able to walk in and start firing away. The Brady's even went as far as to say that regular folk shouldn't have to worry about someone carring an AK47 around as they tried to enjoy the parks. Do any of you plan on taking your AK47 into Yellowstone? Didn't think so. |
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Unfortunately it appears as if the regulations will go into effect 9 months after signing by Obama. That means I still won't be able to carry when I'm up on the Blue Ridge Parkway here in a couple weeks.......
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Okay, in effect in 9 months --
But does it immediately un-do the injunction? Or are you correct that we will be waiting 9 months?! My annual BRP run is set for the second weekend in June. I'm ****** if I can't carry. I'll be the guy loading a subcompact Glock on the BRP exit ramp when we head to town for a meal, fuel and a room.
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Is this thread about the amendment to carry in National Parks in the Credit Card bill, or about the Credit Card bill itself?
Some of you are to be commended for trying to keep this on topic. Others of you may well find your access to this forum, if not TFL, in jeopardy. |
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how come we wont be able to carry in yosemite park?
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I doubt this legislation will undo an injunction that was filed against a regulatory change, but IANAL so maybe some of our resident legal eagles can weigh in there........
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Color me pessimistic, but I don't see anything to prevent the Brady Bunch from going back to the same judge and getting an injunction against the law taking effect because the "environmental impact" hasn't been studied, either. :barf::barf::barf:
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The credit card provisions are NOT immediate.
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What did the final text say, if anything, on the subject of loaded and unlocked long guns? And is there any provision for loaded open carry? Isn't it possible to LOC in unincorporated areas in most states? If so, why not in a National Park?Perhaps this should be another thread.
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Open carry is not specifically mentioned. Yes, LOC is allowed in many states, but discussing which states is IMHO somewhat outside the topic of this thread. Plenty of threads discussing LOC can be found on TFL and elsewhere already.
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I wonder if this will apply to US Army Corps of Engineers parks like Phillpott Lake, Buggs Island etc. or is that a different animal?
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I expressed frustration about this earlier in the thread. The USACE operates parks at several popular recreational lakes in north TX, so the prohibition againt CCW will apparently continue.
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Just signed by the President so it's a done deal, but not until February 2010 when provisions of the entire bill become law.
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