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May 2, 2024, 09:17 AM | #51 | |
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To explain further, around me a number of shops have gone to a broad, but shallow inventory. By this I mean that except for a few models that the shop owners know will sell well historically, they often only have the display model for sale for certain makes and models. This helps them avoid having money tied up in inventory that might not sell. This allows them to operate a bit more lean to compete with online sales. In that case the display is all they have. While I again agree that there is the potential for excessive manipulation, I still want to inspect the firearm and function check it before purchase, and the owners near me generally understand that. I admittedly don’t know the details of a gun store liability policy. However, people mishandling a gun in the store isn’t the only liability claim a store might face. Being sold a defective product could potentially see a lawsuit and that lawsuit, even if thrown out, can cost time and money to settle. Allowing a customer to inspect the firearm as the sale is finalizing allows the shop to say the new owner had the opportunity to inspect the firearm and accepted it in that condition. One shop where I used to live even had a form they had the purchaser sign stating that the purchaser accepted the firearm in that state (for both used and new). An insurance policy that didn’t allow any manipulation by the customer could potentially open the store to other problems along those lines. |
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On the other hand, a prohibition against dropping the slide makes more sense to me because it's noisy, generally serves no purpose, and isn't really (in my opinion) normal use for a gun. I'm not saying that because I think that new production guns are going to be damaged by the practice or because I think the practice is abhorrent, just making an observation. Quote:
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May 2, 2024, 11:54 AM | #54 | |
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I do not want to go sentence for sentence with you debating what was meant in each one, nor has that been my intent. I get the impression we are both talking past the other to an extent. I agree that the store sets the policy, which is why I suggested in my previous post that people patronize the stores engaging in the behavior they want. When I quote a person, not every single comment I make in that post with that quote is directed at that person. Often it is a springboard for other points that have been brought up (similarly to how you weren’t saying I was advocating for 700 mile test drives, which I already understood). At no point did I say “John said people shouldn’t be allowed to perform a function check.” I did read your earlier response acknowledging the reasons for doing that. But I made comments above in response to Skans who seemed to suggest a prohibition on any handling. That context matters to why I was saying what I was saying earlier, which is how we got here. I was recapping the how in my last post. I was not attempting to attribute that argument to you. As for the likelihood of a lawsuit, I specifically used “potentially” and “could” and admitted the lawsuit may well be thrown out. Lawsuits don’t necessarily have to have merit if they can cause one side to capitulate from lack of desire to contest the case. Do I think such a lawsuit likely? I do not, but similarly to you I’m also skeptical that an insurance policy for a gun store would say the patrons couldn’t handle the merchandise. But as I said, I have never owned a gun store and maybe the policies are that specific. I also related the story of a moderately sized store that specifically added a step to the purchasing process where the buyer acknowledges the condition of the firearm, so some stores do apparently feel the need to be very specific. Last edited by TunnelRat; May 2, 2024 at 01:18 PM. |
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May 2, 2024, 12:43 PM | #55 | |
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Fair point. I inferred you meant the equivalent used price and when you didn’t counter the percentage I gave above I assumed that was in fact what you meant. |
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