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Old June 28, 2010, 08:17 AM   #1
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What handgun caliber would you rather never hear about again?

Talking at least somewhat mainstream calibers that we all know.

For me it would be the .45 GAP.
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Old June 28, 2010, 08:31 AM   #2
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Mainstream
.40 S&W (buy better 9mm ammo or just get a 45acp)
Niche
.45 GAP (a solution without a problem)
.327 Magnum (unless it's in a 6 round snubbie)

Also, any gauge shotgun beside 12, 20 or 410!!!!
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Old June 28, 2010, 08:41 AM   #3
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25acp.
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Old June 28, 2010, 08:43 AM   #4
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Let's go wildcats...

The common wildcats like 9x23Winchester, .356TSW, 9mmMarkov, .38Super, etc.
If these "powerful" handgun calibers worked the way they were designed or marketed more firearm owners, PDs, military units, etc would use it.
Some wildcats have merit but as the late Richard Crenna tells Sly Stallone's John J Rambo at the end of First Blood(1982); "It's over, Johnny."
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Old June 28, 2010, 08:56 AM   #5
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Ed,

I don't think you have to worry about the .327. Sadly (IMO) it's time has come and gone before it's time came. I doubt we'll be seeing any more .327 guns or even ammo for that matter.
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Old June 28, 2010, 09:00 AM   #6
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Any caliber that anyone claims is a "sure one shot stopper".
Any caliber anyone claims is "king".
Any caliber that anyone claims makes all others not even worth carrying.
Any caliber that I don't own.
.22 LR
.25 Auto
.32 S&WL
.32 Auto
.380 Auto
.38 Spcl.
.357 Mag.
.357 SIG
9mm
.40 S&W
.45 ACP
.45 LC
.410
12 gauge
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Old June 28, 2010, 09:06 AM   #7
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Anything smaller than 380 auto hehe
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Old June 28, 2010, 09:23 AM   #8
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.17 HMR,,,

When I saw my first revolver chambered in this cartridge,,,
My first reaction was one word,,,
Why?

I know there are people out there who love this cartridge,,,
But I can't help but think it's a round with one purpose,,,
And the purpose was not to fill a need for shooters,,,
But for selling un-reloadable cartridges.

They don't do anything a reloadable cartridge doesn't do better,,,
If I'm reading the ballistics charts correctly,,,
They don't really outperform a .22 Mag.

I'm mentally bracing myself for all the outraged posts from the aficionados of this cartridge.

Again, I just say,,,
Why?

The only truly reasonable answer is,,,
Why not?

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Old June 28, 2010, 09:23 AM   #9
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.40 S&W, I'm really tired of hearing about how its the best of both worlds. IMO its the worst of both worlds.
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Old June 28, 2010, 09:36 AM   #10
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It's already been addressed, but I have to agree. Basically, all the niche calibers.

10mm
40sw
45gap
357sig
327
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Old June 28, 2010, 09:36 AM   #11
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i think that the more variety the better, there is no such thing as a usless cartrige as long as somebody enjoys shooting it.

and 9mm makarov is not a wildcat but a milsurp cartridge.
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Old June 28, 2010, 11:10 AM   #12
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christcorp,

I'm just going to throw this out there, but the .40 is definitely NOT a niche caliber.

I'm not a .40 fanboy, but I do enjoy the one gun I have chambered for it. Anyhow, point is, when as many agencies use .40 as they do, it has certainly transcended the "niche caliber" realm.



ETA: I forgot to give my input on the calibers that I hate. None of them. I'm not bothered by the existence of any caliber. Sure, I think the .45gap is silly, but if the companies want to make it and people like it, fine by me.
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Old June 28, 2010, 12:35 PM   #13
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Old June 28, 2010, 12:41 PM   #14
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.40 S&W
.45 GAP
.357 Sig
.327 FedMag
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Old June 28, 2010, 12:44 PM   #15
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Get rid of .327 and .41

We can keep .357 and the .44 magnum

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In autos toss out the .357 sig and 10mm too
as we got the BIG 3 9mm, .40 and .45
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Old June 28, 2010, 12:46 PM   #16
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None that I can think of. There are rounds that I don't care for or understand but for me to give a hoot if someone else wants to like em and talk about em.....come on. Maybe some should open their ears and their minds to learn something. Is a caliber a niche round? So what. I see a list of cartridges here that are very good at what they do and better at everyday things than many of the so-called "good" calibers. On the list I see many great cartridges that to ignore would be stupid. Others on the list are so obsolete and never talked about that to dislike a conversation about them is a mute point. Can't complain about threads or discussions on a caliber that never See's a thread or discussion. I can see advantages and disadvantages to all the cartridges listed.

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Old June 28, 2010, 01:01 PM   #17
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I can't say either or any of them. EVERY caliber teaches me something about ballistics, recoil, reloading ease, stopping potential. To dismiss any old or new concept in caliber as useless, deprives one of a learning opportunity.. Researching facts, dispellng myths, looking at new approaches in any given caliber, provides challenges to the mind, renews that fresheness to shooting, which one remembers of his/her first experience of firearms. Never stop learning.

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Old June 28, 2010, 01:08 PM   #18
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Sig_Dude said
I don't think you have to worry about the .327. Sadly (IMO) it's time has come and gone before it's time came. I doubt we'll be seeing any more .327 guns or even ammo for that matter.

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With seemingly new guns coming out daily? Smith (albeit pricey), Taurus, and especially Ruger all have an array of guns out in. Look for an LCR, I bet, maybe even a Single Six, maybe a Marlin or Rossi lever? How many more and what guns do you want? Looks pretty good to me so far for a yet fairly youngin' round that unluckily happpened to try to get intro'd/marketed amidst a bad ammo year. And ammo (finally) starting to trickle in? The round is yet young--give it a chance.

To those bashing the so-called niche rounds, what do you find so threatening about them? And to the poster who said he was tired of hearing how the .40 is the "best of both worlds," it's the worst of both worlds," similarly why so threatened? And, btw, it IS in many ways the best of both,... look at the math, the gel and the stop records.
All in all, some interesting responses.
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Old June 28, 2010, 01:35 PM   #19
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No one is threatened by them. They just think of them
as a waste of time.
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Old June 28, 2010, 01:56 PM   #20
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Yea this is most definitely a post where you don't think too much into it, at all...because there's nothing to think about, except the question at face value.
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Old June 28, 2010, 02:03 PM   #21
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The common wildcats like 9x23Winchester, .356TSW, 9mmMarkov, .38Super, etc.
Wildcat?
Those are all factory loads. The .38 Super has been in production for 80+ years and the Mak served half the world as the Iron Curtain sidearm.
The definition I learned for wildcat was a non-factory round produced by die forming, fireforming or other brass modification. But heck, that was 50 years ago, maybe the Internet Definition has mutated.
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Old June 28, 2010, 02:11 PM   #22
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As long as they are making guns that shoot it they can have as many calibers as they want. I'll just buy the ones I need for the guns I have.
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Old June 28, 2010, 02:17 PM   #23
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We have to be careful this doesn't turn into a caliber war because I don't think moderation wants to see any more caliber wars...just a thought...
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Old June 28, 2010, 02:25 PM   #24
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I can only really think of 2.

The 10mm. My first gun, gifted to me by my father was a 10mm. I still have it and absolutely love the cartridge. I just hate that I can't get other guns in this cartridge! I want a Bobcat-Commander 1911 10mm quite badly...

The new .327FM. I looked for over a year for Ruger's Sp101 when I heard this was in development. After finally tracking one down, I was quite happy with it. That is until I have to buy more ammo for it. The only thing local shops carry is 20-rnd boxes of PD ammo. I don't presently have enough brass piled up, nor the time, to do any respectable reloading for target practice. I can't even find .32H&R's to stuff in it. And possibly worst of all, I really want a new levergun to match my revolver! I'll keep my fingers crossed, but it seems unlikely.


Otherwise, I don't really have a problem with any cartridge. I don't like them all, but I just don't buy them. To each their own.
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Old June 28, 2010, 03:07 PM   #25
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Variety is the spice of life ... I'm not sure I'd want to see any calibers die. Though like someone else said the 45 GAP is kind of a solution-without-a-problem round.
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