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Uberti Info?
Forgive my ignorance if I am wrong but I believe that's what I have here.
A friend of mine cares for an elderly woman who has this and said elderly woman wondered if it has any value. (Barrel looks weirdly disproportionate, it's not in real life)
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February 4, 2024, 08:21 PM | #2 |
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It a replica of modest value, the timing is off and the finish is a bit damaged.
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February 4, 2024, 08:40 PM | #3 |
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Very little value, made in 1972 according to the XX8 date stamp.
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It looks like a reproduction of the 1849 Pocket Revolver. Uberti still shows it on their web site. But the 1849 Pocket was a .31 caliber. The one your friend has is .36 caliber, which would make it a short-barreled version of an 1851 Navy. Possibly a "Storekeeper's Model"?
https://www.uberti-usa.com/black-pow...cket-revolvers With a brass frame, it's a lower cost "reproduction" of a firearm that didn't exist, since Colt never made 1851s with brass frames. Back in the 1970s, that model probably sold for about $100 to $150. I suspect it's worth less today, in that condition. Although someone might be interested because of the short barrel.
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I don't see any indication of who made it, probably ASM. Brass frame and obvious timing issues and what looks like a bent trigger guard. Unfortunately it doesn't have much value.
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It is a "replica" of a nonexistent original.
Make an 1851 Navy out of brass and saw the barrel off and you have the "Sheriff's Model." I think the "timing issue" may just be the hammer at half cock and the cylinder in mid-rotation. A brand new one is $307 at Midway. This one is worth a good bit less even if I am right and the timing is ok. |
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Regarding the timing, I probably just turned the cylinder. The action works fine.
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Is it not this gun?
https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/1851...b1-200005.html Or maybe this one? https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/t...36-cal.122156/
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There's something wrong with your first two photos in the opening post -- they appear to have been proportionally distorted, making the gun (and barrel) look shorter than it apparently is. That said, the one in your photos doesn't have a stepped cylinder, so that rules out the Taylor's model in the first link in post #9. The second link is a possibility.
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Ah yes, you’re right about the stepped cylinder.
It also has some fairly detailed (and very shallow) engraving all around the cylinder that the second one doesn’t have. It seems to be a pretty unusual variant.
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Pretty common, really.
Here is a current one. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1026870958?pid=589748 |
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I took the liberty of copying the first two photos and stretching them horizontally by 25 %. I think they look a bit more proportional that way:
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That looks a lot better.
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Confession: reading this thread got me interested in buying an 1851 Navy clone and then getting a cartridge conversion cylinder for it. You can still buy molds to make .36 caliber heeled bullets, and you can buy the bullets pre-made. But by the time I added up the cost of the gun, the conversion cylinder, a batch of 500 bullets, and the cost of the special die needed to crimp .36 caliber heeled bullets, it was well over $1,000.
Never mind.
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But that's a FIREARM. A percussion and a conversion aren't "registered" most places.
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True but if you're not concerned about that it is a cheaper option.
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