Heckler & Koch or Glock? - Page 6

Smaug · September 2, 2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by .357 Sig

This is a very difficult question for me. I voted for the HK for one simple reason; I can shoot it more accurately than the Glock.

+1, for the exact same reason.

Sixer · September 2, 2008, 11:59 AM

Tough to compare... but for value and customer service, Glock gets the edge.

Would I rather have an HK P7 than a Glock 19? YES!!!
Is that a fair comparison? NOPE!!!

I'll keep my Glock 23 and spend the rest on ammo

Silvanus · September 2, 2008, 01:20 PM

I personally prefer Glocks over the "older" USP series. But The P2000/30 are really nice too, so I'm not sure.

Where I live, a Glock goes for 630€ and an USP for 715€. That's not as huge a difference as you guys mention all the time. Those prices are quite appropriate in my opinion. An H&K is a little more "refined" than a Glock, but a price difference higher than 100€ would seem unjustified to me.

I have one question though: can somebody give me an average price of an H&K USP or P2000 and a Glock in the USA? I would like to know just how big the difference is in the US.

Saab1911 · September 2, 2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Silvanus

Where I live, a Glock goes for 630€ and an USP for 715€.

What? $900 for a Glock?

Silvanus · September 2, 2008, 01:35 PM

You can't just convert those prices to $, that makes absolutely no sense... Or else I could say "a S&W M&P for (only) 355.252 €

" (they cost about 520$ in the USA, right?) But they actually cost somewhere around 750 € over here...

Our salaries here are a lot higher than in the United States. (that is of course only one of many factors that make a comparison difficult) 600 € for a Glock is an acceptable/normal price. (just like 500-550$ for you Americans) If you convert this sum to $ it sounds extremely high, but it isn't, really. This may sound stupid, but I don't know how else to explain it

Firepower! · September 2, 2008, 03:25 PM

As my friend mentioned above, where I live there is also not much price difference between the two. In fact sometimes Glock goes for more than Hk. And Glock is the S class here not Hk!

Hk equals more moving parts thus prone to failures.

Glock on the othe hand simple, tough, accurate and gaurandamteedly reliable.

My two favorite handguns are G21 and G19.

I have P2000 but I shoot Gs better.

ElectricHellfire · September 2, 2008, 04:17 PM

Because I believe that both Glocks and HKs are pretty much on a level playing field in terms of reliability and durablity, the price difference usually determines that I buy mostly Glocks. In all honesty, I probably wont ever buy a $900 polymer. Now if someone gave me an HK Id be proud to own it and shoot it but thats not gonna happen.

I vote Glock.

Jager78 · September 2, 2008, 07:56 PM

A wise man once said, "You get what you pay for"
When you purchase a glock you have almost no options, when you purchase an H&K you have virtually endless options that fit your needs. For the USP models, HK P30, and HK45 there are ten variants and most come in threaded barrel models for silencers.

On the other hand, there are many more assessories for a Glock than H&K's.

The new line of H&K's (the HK P2000, HK P30, & HK45) are some of the best weapons to every hit the shelves. I own a HK45 fullsize and I love it!
I find them to be more accurate than a Glock, built more rugged, and look and feel great.

Glocks are fine weapons but sorry die hard Glock fans,
nothing comes close to an H&K (except maybe a Sig or 1911)

H&K No Compromise

HK45 .45 ACP
Sig Pro 2022 .40 S&W
Ruger Mini-30 7.62x39mm
Winchester 94 .30-30
Weatherby Vanguard 300 WBY Mag

HKFan9 · September 2, 2008, 08:09 PM

I would take a G3, MP-5, UMP, G36K, the Grenade machine gun over a Glock ANY DAY. I don't know about you guys.

ImprezaSTI · September 2, 2008, 08:12 PM

I prefer Glock's slimmer slide, lower bore axis, and the simplicity of the design.

Firepower! · September 3, 2008, 04:07 PM

I thought we were talking handgun because G3 and Mp5 are both outdated weapons.

G36 is ok but I prefer Styer AUG A2
Instead of MP5 I rather have Glock 18, both shoot auto 9x19, but G is much smaller and quicker.

duewest · September 3, 2008, 06:15 PM

HK but glock is nice too.

ckgdrums · November 10, 2008, 09:51 AM

For me it's just a matter of how they fit my hand.
The Glock 30/36 doesn't feel right in my hand, but the H&K USP 45 Compact fits very nicely.

cnutco · November 10, 2008, 10:00 AM

Glock!

ragwd · November 10, 2008, 11:08 AM

I voted HK but I own both.

Firepower! · November 10, 2008, 12:10 PM

I think the way things are going Glock will soon need to do something about ergonomics!

Yesterday I had a few top brass cops over for lunch and we started discussing pistols. They didnt talk much about HK but rather compared Glock to Beretta, since those are two which are issued to them.

All of them except one officer prefered Beretta over Glock. They argued that any quality handgun will be equally reliable but they Beretta fits and looks is much superior to Glock.

I have both and HK as well. I shoot Glock better than the rest but that could be since I have practiced a lot on it.

Somehow I feel that Glock may have to play around with it grip for better feel. A safety or decocker was a BIG concern to all of them since they carried live ammo.

ƒORTE · November 10, 2008, 12:23 PM

I like both, but prefer Hk. Having said that, it is my intention to acquire a G17 or 19 in next few weeks. No collection would be complete without a Glock in 9mm...Legendary.

Jager78 · November 10, 2008, 04:43 PM

It's kind of funny how many Glock fans just simply state: Glock!
And write nothing else.

It really does just come down to what you like better and not what is better than the other, at leat when talking about Glock & HK.

What do you shoot better? Thats all that counts.

Both have their + & -

Can't we all just get along

However that being said I have to say that in my opinion HK is a finer quality weapon. Just my own opinion.

Dobe · November 10, 2008, 05:06 PM

HK. I like the supported chambers, and the quality I have seen in HK handguns. The ergonomics of some of the latest HK's is as good as any handgun on the market. Glock's ergonomics leave a lot to be desired. I currently have 4 HK's, one I just bought is the HK 45.

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HK	312	51.15%
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September 2, 2008, 03:25 PM	#131
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	Definately Glock As my friend mentioned above, where I live there is also not much price difference between the two. In fact sometimes Glock goes for more than Hk. And Glock is the S class here not Hk! Hk equals more moving parts thus prone to failures. Glock on the othe hand simple, tough, accurate and gaurandamteedly reliable. My two favorite handguns are G21 and G19. I have P2000 but I shoot Gs better.

September 2, 2008, 04:17 PM	#132
ElectricHellfire Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,271	Because I believe that both Glocks and HKs are pretty much on a level playing field in terms of reliability and durablity, the price difference usually determines that I buy mostly Glocks. In all honesty, I probably wont ever buy a $900 polymer. Now if someone gave me an HK Id be proud to own it and shoot it but thats not gonna happen. I vote Glock. __________________ *Texas, the only State to Have Ever Kicked Another Country's Butt*

November 10, 2008, 09:51 AM	#138
ckgdrums Member Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 17	For me it's just a matter of how they fit my hand. The Glock 30/36 doesn't feel right in my hand, but the H&K USP 45 Compact fits very nicely. __________________ Be safe, Chuck

November 10, 2008, 05:06 PM	#144
Dobe Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2004 Posts: 1,348	HK. I like the supported chambers, and the quality I have seen in HK handguns. The ergonomics of some of the latest HK's is as good as any handgun on the market. Glock's ergonomics leave a lot to be desired. I currently have 4 HK's, one I just bought is the HK 45. __________________ What America needs is not a good 5 cent cigar. What America needs is a good source of cheap ammunition.

September 2, 2008, 11:59 AM	#127
Sixer Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,891	Tough to compare... but for value and customer service, Glock gets the edge. Would I rather have an HK P7 than a Glock 19? YES!!! Is that a fair comparison? NOPE!!! I'll keep my Glock 23 and spend the rest on ammo

September 2, 2008, 01:20 PM	#128
Silvanus Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2005 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 1,324	I personally prefer Glocks over the "older" USP series. But The P2000/30 are really nice too, so I'm not sure. Where I live, a Glock goes for 630€ and an USP for 715€. That's not as huge a difference as you guys mention all the time. Those prices are quite appropriate in my opinion. An H&K is a little more "refined" than a Glock, but a price difference higher than 100€ would seem unjustified to me. I have one question though: can somebody give me an average price of an H&K USP or P2000 and a Glock in the USA? I would like to know just how big the difference is in the US.

September 2, 2008, 01:35 PM	#130
Silvanus Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2005 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 1,324	You can't just convert those prices to $, that makes absolutely no sense... Or else I could say "a S&W M&P for (only) 355.252 € " (they cost about 520$ in the USA, right?) But they actually cost somewhere around 750 € over here... Our salaries here are a lot higher than in the United States. (that is of course only one of many factors that make a comparison difficult) 600 € for a Glock is an acceptable/normal price. (just like 500-550$ for you Americans) If you convert this sum to $ it sounds extremely high, but it isn't, really. This may sound stupid, but I don't know how else to explain it

September 2, 2008, 07:56 PM	#133
Jager78 Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2007 Location: Pig's Eye MN Posts: 166	A wise man once said, "You get what you pay for" When you purchase a glock you have almost no options, when you purchase an H&K you have virtually endless options that fit your needs. For the USP models, HK P30, and HK45 there are ten variants and most come in threaded barrel models for silencers. On the other hand, there are many more assessories for a Glock than H&K's. The new line of H&K's (the HK P2000, HK P30, & HK45) are some of the best weapons to every hit the shelves. I own a HK45 fullsize and I love it! I find them to be more accurate than a Glock, built more rugged, and look and feel great. Glocks are fine weapons but sorry die hard Glock fans, nothing comes close to an H&K (except maybe a Sig or 1911) H&K No Compromise HK45 .45 ACP Sig Pro 2022 .40 S&W Ruger Mini-30 7.62x39mm Winchester 94 .30-30 Weatherby Vanguard 300 WBY Mag

September 2, 2008, 08:09 PM	#134
HKFan9 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2008 Posts: 3,057	I would take a G3, MP-5, UMP, G36K, the Grenade machine gun over a Glock ANY DAY. I don't know about you guys.

September 2, 2008, 08:12 PM	#135
ImprezaSTI Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 28	I prefer Glock's slimmer slide, lower bore axis, and the simplicity of the design.

September 3, 2008, 04:07 PM	#136
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	I thought we were talking handgun because G3 and Mp5 are both outdated weapons. G36 is ok but I prefer Styer AUG A2 Instead of MP5 I rather have Glock 18, both shoot auto 9x19, but G is much smaller and quicker.

September 3, 2008, 06:15 PM	#137
duewest Junior Member Join Date: August 31, 2008 Posts: 14	HK but glock is nice too.

November 10, 2008, 10:00 AM	#139
cnutco Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2008 Location: NE GA Posts: 189	Glock!

November 10, 2008, 11:08 AM	#140
ragwd Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2006 Posts: 925	I voted HK but I own both.

November 10, 2008, 12:10 PM	#141
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	I think the way things are going Glock will soon need to do something about ergonomics! Yesterday I had a few top brass cops over for lunch and we started discussing pistols. They didnt talk much about HK but rather compared Glock to Beretta, since those are two which are issued to them. All of them except one officer prefered Beretta over Glock. They argued that any quality handgun will be equally reliable but they Beretta fits and looks is much superior to Glock. I have both and HK as well. I shoot Glock better than the rest but that could be since I have practiced a lot on it. Somehow I feel that Glock may have to play around with it grip for better feel. A safety or decocker was a BIG concern to all of them since they carried live ammo.

November 10, 2008, 12:23 PM	#142
ƒORTE Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2008 Location: Forgotten lands of the mythical Crimson Tide Posts: 395	I like both, but prefer Hk. Having said that, it is my intention to acquire a G17 or 19 in next few weeks. No collection would be complete without a Glock in 9mm...Legendary.

November 10, 2008, 04:43 PM	#143
Jager78 Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2007 Location: Pig's Eye MN Posts: 166	It's kind of funny how many Glock fans just simply state: Glock! And write nothing else. It really does just come down to what you like better and not what is better than the other, at leat when talking about Glock & HK. What do you shoot better? Thats all that counts. Both have their + & - Can't we all just get along However that being said I have to say that in my opinion HK is a finer quality weapon. Just my own opinion.