Guns that always go bang... - Page 2

Dr.Rob · May 20, 2002, 01:02 PM

FEG pa-63 in 380, even if the slide is a little slow, it always goes bang.

Second is my FEG hi-power, until I found that after 3000 rounds or so, you need to remove the extractor and clean under it. Pervious to that I had no jams at all. After the cleaning, back to good stuff.

Country Boy · May 20, 2002, 04:16 PM

Just a reminder. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not until after a bazillion rounds, but...

Quote:

All guns fail. If the space shuttle . . . .Hate to break it to you, but revolvers fail as well, just in different ways. Carry a bug, study your mal drills. Most of all, don't get in fights (and think of the children too).

Modifiedbrowning · May 20, 2002, 04:41 PM

Eric Larsen, who owns that P226? Can I borrow it for a year, too?

gryphon · May 20, 2002, 04:44 PM

If your talking, never has ever failed to fire, cycle, and re-fire, not including the need to reload: Hi-Point 9mm.

Although close second is my 1911 once I get dependable magazines for it.

David4516 · May 20, 2002, 06:15 PM

Some of you have said you've had your Makarovs fail. I should have noted that I've been re-loading my Mak ammo, so that may be why I have not had problems. For you re-loaders out there, I've found that 3.0 gr of RedDot powder workds great in the Mak, as does 2.8 gr of 700X(at least these seem to work well with 95 grain JHP rounds, I haven't tryed much else yet, I'm new to re-loading). I'm thinking about trying to use just a little more powder and see how it works out, because with these loads I only get about 900 FPS, and I know that the Mak should be capable of at least 1000 FPS, maybe even a little more. But on the other hand, I think a reliable load is more important than the extra 100FPS, so maybe I should just stick with what I got.

As for the Glocks that several of you have been talking about, I don't think they are super dependable. My dad has been having problems with his Glock 27. But then again that could be due to the fact that he recently converted it to .357 sig, I'm not really sure.

blades67 · May 20, 2002, 06:30 PM

Revolvers don't always work. I've had two revolvers fail to fire, both were Rugers.

My SIG, Glock, Colt and Charles Daly pistols have all been 100% reliable so far.

tonyulichnie · May 20, 2002, 08:18 PM

That would be my P89DC so far. 1000rnds and not one failure
Tony

Archer1440 · May 20, 2002, 08:40 PM

I have about 11,500 rounds through one HK USP .45 compact, and 2500 rounds through each of two others, and not once has any of the three failed to go "bang". They get cleaned and maintained, but these pistols will feed an empty casing without missing a beat.

Lots of other nice pistols mentioned in the posts above.

ChickenHawk · May 20, 2002, 09:40 PM

2 Glocks. First time every time!

NapAttack · May 21, 2002, 12:02 AM

Colt Commander in .38 Super. Had it 10+ years now. Never failed to go bang.

Lotzinger · May 21, 2002, 01:32 AM

it always did what I expected to do.

there was only one ipsc-day within the past six years, I needed to eject every f***ing round by hand, because magazines were something like the "sahara"

If I would not live here in Germany, I still had bought some more of them ...

Ala Dan · May 21, 2002, 05:33 AM

Sig's P220, P226, P228, and P229

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Thirties · May 21, 2002, 05:39 AM

Bulgarian suplus Makrov in 9x18
CZ83 surplus in .380
CZ85B in 9x19 (new)
Vanad P-83 in 9x18 (new)

All 100% error/fault free

AC's & 45's · May 21, 2002, 12:36 PM

The only unmodified pistols I have ever owned that were totally reliable are my Maks and my Cz-75B.

bpisler · May 21, 2002, 05:43 PM

Here we go,bersa 383A 4 years and 2500 rds.Glock 26 1 year and 1000 rds.Ruger KP-90DC 3 years and 3000 rds and various other semi-auto's i've owned over the years.

Dr Heckel · May 21, 2002, 06:59 PM

My HK USP and Sig 229 havent failed once yet. The only gun I had real problems with was my P99.

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All guns fail. If the space shuttle . . . .Hate to break it to you, but revolvers fail as well, just in different ways.

When revolvers fail its usually a more serious malfunction that cant be quickly cleared, when autos fail, racking the slide more often than not will correct the problem.

Stephen A. Camp · May 21, 2002, 09:18 PM

Hello. I don't remember a malfunction with any of the following.
Best.

Best to all and good shooting.

zanthope · May 21, 2002, 10:11 PM

All of my bangs always go Glock, Glock, Glock.

I have a 17, a 27, and a 30.

I want a 20 very badly.

sarge83 · May 22, 2002, 10:11 AM

Bulgie Mak 9X18, Glock 27, and Colt 70 Series Commander .45 always go bang for me.

BigG · May 22, 2002, 11:10 AM

Happiness is a warm Glock 19. Pretty much foolproof, at least in my hands.

David Scott · May 22, 2002, 03:43 PM

One more voye for Ruger's KP95DC. Mine has never hiccuped even once.

Tamara · May 22, 2002, 04:11 PM

Hmm. Autos I currently own that have not hiccuped on me (yet)...

Glock 30, HK P7M8, Kimber Classic Stainless LE, SIG P-226 .40, Beretta 96D & 950BS Jetfire.

Recent jam problems: one jam in my G29 (operator headspace problem), a series of baffling miscues on the last round in my Springfield Professional (cured by new springs/followers installed in Wilson 47D's), some bobbles from my Springfield V-10 at one range session (a bum handload or two; excessive OAL w/heavy LRN projectiles), a few FTF's on one range trip with my Tomcat a year or two ago (150ish rounds, mostly Blazer, fired through itty-bitty blowback gun at one sitting fouled it up bad enough to cause feeding problems towards the end of the session. Went away after cleaning).

spd522 · May 22, 2002, 10:45 PM

Most reliable to go bang every time are my SIGS.
P226, P220, P229, and P230.

My other reliable bangers-
Browning HiPower
Para Ordnance P14 and P18

My least reliable -GLOCKs- (17, 26, and 22)-striker fired and hard primers are asking for trouble.

I have problems with my Ruger 22 pistols too but that's more a problem with cheap 22 ammo than the gun itself.

Eric Larsen · May 23, 2002, 09:14 AM

I shot a Taurus PT 940 and loved it. I went shooting with a couple of buddies including my cousin...who had the Sig. They were giving me the "Taurus? Why would anyone buy a Taurus?"
treatment. The moral of the story is after they all shot it..my cousin traded me his Sig for my Taurus for a damn long time...really more like 8-9 months..but close enough.
I enjoyed both guns alot....I almost kept it.
Shoot well

dejacobs · May 23, 2002, 10:54 PM

Gunsite GSP 2000 'Professional'
East German and Bulgarian Makarovs (9x18)
Walther P99 in 9mm
HK USP .45 w/match trigger group

May 20, 2002, 01:02 PM	#26
Dr.Rob Staff Alumnus Join Date: July 28, 1999 Location: Denver Posts: 2,454	FEG pa-63 in 380, even if the slide is a little slow, it always goes bang. Second is my FEG hi-power, until I found that after 3000 rounds or so, you need to remove the extractor and clean under it. Pervious to that I had no jams at all. After the cleaning, back to good stuff. __________________ You broke into the wrong Rec Room!

May 20, 2002, 04:41 PM	#28
Modifiedbrowning Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2002 Location: Montana Posts: 613	Eric Larsen, who owns that P226? Can I borrow it for a year, too? __________________ "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are" Buckaroo Banzai

May 20, 2002, 04:44 PM	#29
gryphon Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,069	If your talking, never has ever failed to fire, cycle, and re-fire, not including the need to reload: Hi-Point 9mm. Although close second is my 1911 once I get dependable magazines for it. __________________ Your suffering will be legendary, even in HELL!! --- PinHead, HellRaiser 2

May 20, 2002, 06:30 PM	#31
blades67 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 6,014	Revolvers don't always work. I've had two revolvers fail to fire, both were Rugers. My SIG, Glock, Colt and Charles Daly pistols have all been 100% reliable so far. __________________ Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat! I hunt, therefore I am.

May 20, 2002, 08:18 PM	#32
tonyulichnie Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 181	Well That would be my P89DC so far. 1000rnds and not one failure Tony __________________ Shoot a Lot and Stay Safe

May 20, 2002, 06:15 PM	#30
David4516 Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 158	Some of you have said you've had your Makarovs fail. I should have noted that I've been re-loading my Mak ammo, so that may be why I have not had problems. For you re-loaders out there, I've found that 3.0 gr of RedDot powder workds great in the Mak, as does 2.8 gr of 700X(at least these seem to work well with 95 grain JHP rounds, I haven't tryed much else yet, I'm new to re-loading). I'm thinking about trying to use just a little more powder and see how it works out, because with these loads I only get about 900 FPS, and I know that the Mak should be capable of at least 1000 FPS, maybe even a little more. But on the other hand, I think a reliable load is more important than the extra 100FPS, so maybe I should just stick with what I got. As for the Glocks that several of you have been talking about, I don't think they are super dependable. My dad has been having problems with his Glock 27. But then again that could be due to the fact that he recently converted it to .357 sig, I'm not really sure.

May 20, 2002, 08:40 PM	#33
Archer1440 Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 519	I have about 11,500 rounds through one HK USP .45 compact, and 2500 rounds through each of two others, and not once has any of the three failed to go "bang". They get cleaned and maintained, but these pistols will feed an empty casing without missing a beat. Lots of other nice pistols mentioned in the posts above.

May 20, 2002, 09:40 PM	#34
ChickenHawk Member Join Date: May 3, 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 74	2 Glocks. First time every time! __________________ I'm a ChickenHawk and you're a chicken. Are you gonna come along quietly, or am I gonna have to mush you up? [Warner Bros.]

May 21, 2002, 12:02 AM	#35
NapAttack Senior Member Join Date: July 27, 2001 Location: NE Ga Posts: 221	Colt Commander in .38 Super. Had it 10+ years now. Never failed to go bang.

May 21, 2002, 01:32 AM	#36
Lotzinger Member Join Date: July 17, 2001 Location: Germany, Europe Posts: 49	HK P7M13 it always did what I expected to do. there was only one ipsc-day within the past six years, I needed to eject every f***ing round by hand, because magazines were something like the "sahara" If I would not live here in Germany, I still had bought some more of them ...

May 21, 2002, 05:33 AM	#37
Ala Dan Member in memoriam Join Date: August 13, 1999 Location: In The HOT, Humid, and Mu Posts: 6,116	Sig's P220, P226, P228, and P229 Best Wishes, Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

May 21, 2002, 05:39 AM	#38
Thirties Senior Member Join Date: April 29, 2001 Location: Where the Red Sox meet the Black Bears Posts: 561	Bulgarian suplus Makrov in 9x18 CZ83 surplus in .380 CZ85B in 9x19 (new) Vanad P-83 in 9x18 (new) All 100% error/fault free

May 21, 2002, 12:36 PM	#39
AC's & 45's Senior Member Join Date: November 8, 2000 Location: Mid, Mo Posts: 403	The only unmodified pistols I have ever owned that were totally reliable are my Maks and my Cz-75B. __________________ Common sense is not something you can aquire. You must be born with it. So, you either have it or you don't!

May 21, 2002, 05:43 PM	#40
bpisler Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2001 Location: phoenix az Posts: 375	Here we go,bersa 383A 4 years and 2500 rds.Glock 26 1 year and 1000 rds.Ruger KP-90DC 3 years and 3000 rds and various other semi-auto's i've owned over the years. __________________ 'Fear the goverment that fears your guns'

May 21, 2002, 09:18 PM	#42
Stephen A. Camp Staff In Memoriam Join Date: April 16, 1999 Posts: 2,570	Hello. I don't remember a malfunction with any of the following. Best. Best to all and good shooting.

May 21, 2002, 10:11 PM	#43
zanthope Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 258	All of my bangs always go Glock, Glock, Glock. I have a 17, a 27, and a 30. I want a 20 very badly. __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then it gets worse.

May 22, 2002, 10:11 AM	#44
sarge83 Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2000 Posts: 426	Bulgie Mak 9X18, Glock 27, and Colt 70 Series Commander .45 always go bang for me.

May 22, 2002, 11:10 AM	#45
BigG Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,334	Happiness is a warm Glock 19. Pretty much foolproof, at least in my hands. __________________ o "The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching." Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC o "In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain o "They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here?" Paul Harvey o TODAY WE CARVE OUT OUR OWN OMENS! Leonidas, Thermopylae, 480 BC

May 22, 2002, 03:43 PM	#46
David Scott Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2000 Posts: 2,456	One more voye for Ruger's KP95DC. Mine has never hiccuped even once. __________________ "As I looked at my two young sons, each with his gun, and considered how much the safety of the party depended on these little fellows, I felt grateful to you, dear husband, for having acquainted them in childhood with the use of firearms." -- Elisabeth Robinson, in The Swiss Family Robinson by Johann Wyss

May 22, 2002, 04:11 PM	#47
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	Hmm. Autos I currently own that have not hiccuped on me (yet)... Glock 30, HK P7M8, Kimber Classic Stainless LE, SIG P-226 .40, Beretta 96D & 950BS Jetfire. Recent jam problems: one jam in my G29 (operator headspace problem), a series of baffling miscues on the last round in my Springfield Professional (cured by new springs/followers installed in Wilson 47D's), some bobbles from my Springfield V-10 at one range session (a bum handload or two; excessive OAL w/heavy LRN projectiles), a few FTF's on one range trip with my Tomcat a year or two ago (150ish rounds, mostly Blazer, fired through itty-bitty blowback gun at one sitting fouled it up bad enough to cause feeding problems towards the end of the session. Went away after cleaning). __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

May 22, 2002, 10:45 PM	#48
spd522 Member Join Date: April 19, 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 57	Most reliable to go bang every time are my SIGS. P226, P220, P229, and P230. My other reliable bangers- Browning HiPower Para Ordnance P14 and P18 My least reliable -GLOCKs- (17, 26, and 22)-striker fired and hard primers are asking for trouble. I have problems with my Ruger 22 pistols too but that's more a problem with cheap 22 ammo than the gun itself.

May 23, 2002, 09:14 AM	#49
Eric Larsen Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Bountiful....Ut. Posts: 3,226	I shot a Taurus PT 940 and loved it. I went shooting with a couple of buddies including my cousin...who had the Sig. They were giving me the "Taurus? Why would anyone buy a Taurus?" treatment. The moral of the story is after they all shot it..my cousin traded me his Sig for my Taurus for a damn long time...really more like 8-9 months..but close enough. I enjoyed both guns alot....I almost kept it. Shoot well __________________ If they dont know you have a gun.....then I did alright! If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice......Rush

May 23, 2002, 10:54 PM	#50
dejacobs Junior Member Join Date: February 15, 2000 Posts: 6	Guns that always go bang... Gunsite GSP 2000 'Professional' East German and Bulgarian Makarovs (9x18) Walther P99 in 9mm HK USP .45 w/match trigger group __________________ Sic gorgiamus allos subjectos nunc --- Not just pretty words! Last edited by dejacobs; May 24, 2002 at 08:44 AM.