Will this conversion kit fit this 1911?

Lavid2002 · March 4, 2010, 12:04 AM

Ok I really want a para expert GI 1911....I also want a .22 conversion kit for it so I can plink out of it. It says this conversion kit fits any 1911 that doesnt have the ramped barrel. Does the para have the ramped BBL?
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c...9&kwtid=292801
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...ducts_id/56531

IdahoG36 · March 4, 2010, 12:10 AM

All Paras feature a match grade ramped barrel, so I would have to say it wouldn't work.

You could always go with a Springfield Mil Spec. It is similar to the GI Expert, but runs about $100-$150 more depending on if you get the parkerized or the stainless version.

Lavid2002 · March 4, 2010, 12:23 AM

damn : (

I really wanted the PARA for the sights.... I love the price of the Mil-Spec GI 1911's but here's what I dont like those low sights...

Edit: That springfield is lookin like a good deal though : ) Nice sights, lowered ejection port, I can use that .22 kit....wow...

IdahoG36 · March 4, 2010, 12:27 AM

I hear you. I wish the Mil Spec had dovetailed Novaks. That would be so much better than the sights they are currently equipped with. But I guess that is reserved for the Loaded series and higher.

Lavid2002 · March 4, 2010, 12:35 AM

wow....lookin like an awesome deal with that mil-spec : )

IdahoG36 · March 4, 2010, 12:42 AM

I would recommend the Mil Spec over the GI version. The Mil Spec has slightly better sights, a lowered and flared ejection port, and I believe the frame is already cut to install a beavertail grip safety without further frame modification. This is where the extra money comes into play, and IMO, it's worth it for the extra features you get.

Lavid2002 · March 4, 2010, 11:29 AM

what wrong with the safety already on it. I guess you can get bit by the hammer + or slide if your not careful?

IdahoG36 · March 4, 2010, 02:13 PM

Nothing is wrong with the grip safety that comes on it stock. I prefer the beavertail grip safety because it allows you to get a higher grip on the gun.

RickB · March 4, 2010, 03:25 PM

The Para Expert G.I. does not have a ramped barrel.

IdahoG36 · March 5, 2010, 12:21 AM

Really? I didn't know that. All of the Para ads I have ever seen state that all of their pistols feature ramped match grade barrels.

You are correct. My apologies to the OP for giving you incorrect information. Here is a pic straight off of the Para website showing the GI Expert fully disassembled. It looks like the only 1911 Para builds that doesn't use a ramped barrel.

Lavid2002 · March 5, 2010, 12:34 AM

Wow..... Thats very cool : )

Pistol Permits here I come!

*NJ : (*

kelly mt · March 10, 2010, 12:09 AM

I have a Ciener .22 conversion for my 1911. It's very accurate and changes out with the .45 slide/barrel in about 60 seconds. PK

Walt Sherrill · March 10, 2010, 09:58 AM

Check with Para about whether the Ciener kit will work. (Or check with Ciener.)

As already noted, wen the conversion kit is installed, the entire top end is swapped, so whether the Para does or doesn't have a ramped barrel is, I think, largely irrelevant.

You might consider spending a bit more and getting a Marvel kit -- the standard of the industry... Sometimes cheaper is good; sometimes it isn't.

Lavid2002 · March 10, 2010, 10:37 AM

Walt....

I think it is relevant. The .22 conversion kit says it DOESNT work with ramped BBLs. Because when you remove the barrel....you remove the ramp. I think the .22 conversion kit uses the ramp in the frame of the gun : )

March 4, 2010, 12:04 AM	#1
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Will this conversion kit fit this 1911? Ok I really want a para expert GI 1911....I also want a .22 conversion kit for it so I can plink out of it. It says this conversion kit fits any 1911 that doesnt have the ramped barrel. Does the para have the ramped BBL? http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c...9&kwtid=292801 https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...ducts_id/56531 __________________ Math>Grammar

March 4, 2010, 12:23 AM	#3
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	damn : ( I really wanted the PARA for the sights.... I love the price of the Mil-Spec GI 1911's but here's what I dont like those low sights... Edit: That springfield is lookin like a good deal though : ) Nice sights, lowered ejection port, I can use that .22 kit....wow... __________________ Math>Grammar Last edited by Lavid2002; March 4, 2010 at 12:32 AM.

March 4, 2010, 12:35 AM	#5
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	wow....lookin like an awesome deal with that mil-spec : ) __________________ Math>Grammar

March 4, 2010, 11:29 AM	#7
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	what wrong with the safety already on it. I guess you can get bit by the hammer + or slide if your not careful? __________________ Math>Grammar

March 5, 2010, 12:34 AM	#11
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Wow..... Thats very cool : ) Pistol Permits here I come! NJ : ( __________________ Math>Grammar

March 4, 2010, 12:10 AM	#2
IdahoG36 Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 2,993	All Paras feature a match grade ramped barrel, so I would have to say it wouldn't work. You could always go with a Springfield Mil Spec. It is similar to the GI Expert, but runs about $100-$150 more depending on if you get the parkerized or the stainless version.

March 4, 2010, 12:27 AM	#4
IdahoG36 Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 2,993	I hear you. I wish the Mil Spec had dovetailed Novaks. That would be so much better than the sights they are currently equipped with. But I guess that is reserved for the Loaded series and higher.

March 4, 2010, 12:42 AM	#6
IdahoG36 Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 2,993	I would recommend the Mil Spec over the GI version. The Mil Spec has slightly better sights, a lowered and flared ejection port, and I believe the frame is already cut to install a beavertail grip safety without further frame modification. This is where the extra money comes into play, and IMO, it's worth it for the extra features you get.

March 4, 2010, 02:13 PM	#8
IdahoG36 Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 2,993	Nothing is wrong with the grip safety that comes on it stock. I prefer the beavertail grip safety because it allows you to get a higher grip on the gun.

March 4, 2010, 03:25 PM	#9
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	The Para Expert G.I. does not have a ramped barrel.

March 5, 2010, 12:21 AM	#10
IdahoG36 Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 2,993	Really? I didn't know that. All of the Para ads I have ever seen state that all of their pistols feature ramped match grade barrels. You are correct. My apologies to the OP for giving you incorrect information. Here is a pic straight off of the Para website showing the GI Expert fully disassembled. It looks like the only 1911 Para builds that doesn't use a ramped barrel.

March 10, 2010, 12:09 AM	#12
kelly mt Junior Member Join Date: March 2, 2010 Posts: 12	I have a Ciener .22 conversion for my 1911. It's very accurate and changes out with the .45 slide/barrel in about 60 seconds. PK

March 10, 2010, 09:58 AM	#13
Walt Sherrill Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 6,348	Check with Para about whether the Ciener kit will work. (Or check with Ciener.) As already noted, wen the conversion kit is installed, the entire top end is swapped, so whether the Para does or doesn't have a ramped barrel is, I think, largely irrelevant. You might consider spending a bit more and getting a Marvel kit -- the standard of the industry... Sometimes cheaper is good; sometimes it isn't. Last edited by Walt Sherrill; March 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM.

March 10, 2010, 10:37 AM	#14
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Walt.... I think it is relevant. The .22 conversion kit says it DOESNT work with ramped BBLs. Because when you remove the barrel....you remove the ramp. I think the .22 conversion kit uses the ramp in the frame of the gun : ) __________________ Math>Grammar