Manurhin PPK/S Opinions

FPrice · December 22, 2002, 06:20 PM

Does anyone here have a Manurhin copy of the Walther PPK/S? My dealer has a used one on sale for $295. It has a pretty good trigger feel, especially in SA. Walthers in this area are pretty high, way out of my price range, usually $600 and up from the few I have seen.

Thanks.

tbeb · December 22, 2002, 07:07 PM

No, but I have a .32 Manurhin PP and it is a fine pistol. It is reliable with FMJ's and Speer Gold Dot hollowpoints. (These pistols were manufactured to function with round nose jacketed ammunition so don't expect it to be reliable with hollowpoints.) I think mine is early production, 1950-1954, because the Manurchin trademark is on the slide and grips.

A year ago at a sporting goods store I paid $225. Came with owner's manual (1 English, 1 German), cleaning rod, spare magazine, and box. .380's seem to be more popular these days so will cost a little more. I feel a good price is one you're happy with.

maxwayne · December 22, 2002, 07:38 PM

After WWII all Walther pistols were made in France and then shipped to Germany for assembly. Sounds like a bargain to me. I have a pre-war PP in 22 and a 380 ppk/s.

Dfariswheel · December 22, 2002, 08:40 PM

That price is great.
One of gunmakings dirty little secrets, is that those "Wonderful quality German made Walther PP pistols", were made by Manurhin
in France.
In Europe, it's a common business practice to ship products to other countries and mark them as from that country. There, where a gun is actually proofed, is considered the country of manufacture. Manurhin made the guns, they were shipped a few miles over the border to the Walther plant at Ulm, proof fired, had grips mounted, and boxed. Instant "German manufacturing quality"

The Walther and Manurhin marked guns were made on the same production lines by the same people. the only difference is, the Manurhin guns owner's manual had the Walther logo's airbrushed off the pictures and a Manurhin's airbrushed in. my two guns had the exact same manual as the Walther marked guns, and came in the exact same plastic box, with a Manurhin label on the end.

In other words, you're getting a Walther PPK/s with a different mark on the slide, at a great price.

WIL TERRY · December 23, 2002, 12:34 PM

WERE MANUFACTURED BY MANURHIN IN FRANCE UNTIL INTERARMS MOVED THEIR MANUFACTURE OVER HERE IN THE '80'S...[ I THINK IT WAS THE 80'S ]
These are damn fine pistols though. One of my PP7.65MM pistols has all WALTHER markings down one side of the pistol and all MANURHIN markings on the other side. It came in a WALTHER box.
It shoots beautifully with numerous loads...all but CORBON'S...

Nomadz · December 23, 2002, 05:24 PM

As already stated the 'Euros' are all French post WW2
my PPK/s Euro is a superb piece never failed and is carried
alot in the summer.

check out SOG they have "German" Walthers for
$279

SOG LINK

December 22, 2002, 06:20 PM	#1
FPrice Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2000 Location: People's Commonwealth of Massachusetts Posts: 1,456	Manurhin PPK/S Opinions Does anyone here have a Manurhin copy of the Walther PPK/S? My dealer has a used one on sale for $295. It has a pretty good trigger feel, especially in SA. Walthers in this area are pretty high, way out of my price range, usually $600 and up from the few I have seen. Thanks. __________________ Frosty Price "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai

December 23, 2002, 12:34 PM	#5
WIL TERRY Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2000 Location: BLACK HILLS Posts: 1,322	AS NOTED HERE ALREADY, ALL WALTHERS MADE AFTER WWII WERE MANUFACTURED BY MANURHIN IN FRANCE UNTIL INTERARMS MOVED THEIR MANUFACTURE OVER HERE IN THE '80'S...[ I THINK IT WAS THE 80'S ] These are damn fine pistols though. One of my PP7.65MM pistols has all WALTHER markings down one side of the pistol and all MANURHIN markings on the other side. It came in a WALTHER box. It shoots beautifully with numerous loads...all but CORBON'S...

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December 22, 2002, 07:07 PM	#2
tbeb Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 100	No, but I have a .32 Manurhin PP and it is a fine pistol. It is reliable with FMJ's and Speer Gold Dot hollowpoints. (These pistols were manufactured to function with round nose jacketed ammunition so don't expect it to be reliable with hollowpoints.) I think mine is early production, 1950-1954, because the Manurchin trademark is on the slide and grips. A year ago at a sporting goods store I paid $225. Came with owner's manual (1 English, 1 German), cleaning rod, spare magazine, and box. .380's seem to be more popular these days so will cost a little more. I feel a good price is one you're happy with.

December 22, 2002, 07:38 PM	#3
maxwayne Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2001 Posts: 402	After WWII all Walther pistols were made in France and then shipped to Germany for assembly. Sounds like a bargain to me. I have a pre-war PP in 22 and a 380 ppk/s.

December 22, 2002, 08:40 PM	#4
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	That price is great. One of gunmakings dirty little secrets, is that those "Wonderful quality German made Walther PP pistols", were made by Manurhin in France. In Europe, it's a common business practice to ship products to other countries and mark them as from that country. There, where a gun is actually proofed, is considered the country of manufacture. Manurhin made the guns, they were shipped a few miles over the border to the Walther plant at Ulm, proof fired, had grips mounted, and boxed. Instant "German manufacturing quality" The Walther and Manurhin marked guns were made on the same production lines by the same people. the only difference is, the Manurhin guns owner's manual had the Walther logo's airbrushed off the pictures and a Manurhin's airbrushed in. my two guns had the exact same manual as the Walther marked guns, and came in the exact same plastic box, with a Manurhin label on the end. In other words, you're getting a Walther PPK/s with a different mark on the slide, at a great price.

December 23, 2002, 05:24 PM	#6
Nomadz Member Join Date: April 4, 2002 Location: washington Posts: 33	As already stated the 'Euros' are all French post WW2 my PPK/s Euro is a superb piece never failed and is carried alot in the summer. check out SOG they have "German" Walthers for $279 SOG LINK