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October 11, 2007, 06:34 AM | #1 |
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Gunzilla: One-Step Cleaner/Lubricant A Winner!
IN CASE ANYONE IS WONDERING: I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION WITH GUNZILLA OR ANYONE CONNECTED WITH IT. I AM A USER, CLEAR & SIMPLE
I tried this stuff- cleans whole gun from bore to finish, you don't need anything else. cleans powder, copper, lead, rust; it lubricates as well; plant-based so no chemicals or astringents; easy on nose, easy on hands, supposed to markedly reduce malfunctions (can't comment there since I shoot either a Glock or one of three revolvers, none have malfunctions anyway.) It's definitely worth a $9 try. Here's some military comments, who I believe it was developed for: http://www.gunzilla.us/testimonials.htm More Info and Company: www.topduckproducts.com An example of feedback if you don't like web-links: I am the firearms training specialist and armorer for a large Federal Agency. We currently have approximately 3,000+ assorted weapons assigned to this Sector. In this part of the country, we have quite a lot of blowing dust and sand with extreme heat. For us to find a firearm cleaner and lubricant that does not attract and "trap" the sand onto or within our weapons, is an achievement. I have been using your product in large quantities since February of this year and I am amazed at how much cleaner our weapons are now. We have test fired over 1,000 rounds of ammunition through various weapons using Gunzilla, without having any problems. The guns fired flawlessly and remained relatively clean. After the firings, I disassembled the weapons, semi-auto pistols, 12 gauge shotguns, and M-4 rifles to see how the cleaner performed. The weapons showed no unusual or excessive wear and they cleaned up easier and quicker than with other CLP types. I retired from the Air Force where I served 21 years working on aircraft weapons and gun systems, as well as assorted small arms and explosives, where I used thousands of new or different type cleaners/lubricants trying to find one that eased our workload. I have never used any product that kept weapons as clean or as well lubricated as this new "Gunzilla" CLP. Another great quality of this product is how "easy" it is on your hands. We use gun cleaners at our firing ranges where many times we don't have access to a place where we can clean-up after cleaning the guns. Gunzilla is very mild on your skin and doesn't contain any harsh chemicals that burn or dry-out your skin. The scent of Gunzilla isn't like other cleaners that are petroleum based. I have recommended this product to other law enforcement agencies also. Many agencies do not know of the product, and if they have firearms, then they need to use this Gunzilla. - Joe Todd - Retired Air Force Last edited by gvf; October 11, 2007 at 11:52 PM. |
October 11, 2007, 02:04 PM | #2 |
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What a crock, all a bunch of no-names. No real information here to get me to give up my CLP.
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October 11, 2007, 02:41 PM | #3 |
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Ok, so don't try it. As far as it being a crock, you won't actually know if it's a crock, so that's fine too.
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October 11, 2007, 02:57 PM | #4 |
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I use it now and enjoy it as it does a good job of cleaning and I don't have to worry about the smell or that chemical crap soaking into my skin. I am not quite sure about using it as a lube though, yet. I guess I am halfway there? The post looks like a advertisement though. Guess it is in demand in SW Asia area for cleaning the service rifles. Good gift to send to your GI over there. I do use CLP and FP 10 for a lot of lubrication duties but don't consider them cleaners.
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October 11, 2007, 03:17 PM | #5 |
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Well, if someone wants to send me a free sample I'll do the same sort of informal test I did on the "What Lube is This" thread.
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October 11, 2007, 03:35 PM | #6 |
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Gunzilla outperforms any cleaner/lubricant I have used. I have no affiliation with them whatsoever - just an impressed fan of the product.
Tom 2, feel free to use it as a lubricant. I too was a little hesitant to use it like that, but since I have switched over it has performed very well. The more you use it, the better it performs. Zespectre, PM me your mailing info and I will send you a free bottle. I am an FFL dealer and recommend this stuff to everyone who purchases guns from me...no complaints yet. Average Joe, with all due respect, those "no names" could and would out shoot any of us any day of the week. I personally know the MI State Police shooters and they are no joke in the Bullseye arena. Send me your info as well and I will get a bottle to you. TNT |
October 11, 2007, 03:43 PM | #7 |
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PM sent
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October 11, 2007, 04:39 PM | #8 |
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Cool! So can anyone send me some free guns to test?
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October 11, 2007, 06:47 PM | #9 |
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And what does "outshooting us" have to do with a new untested cleaning product, with no scientific data ?
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October 11, 2007, 08:52 PM | #10 |
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I've never tried the lube but 1 cleaning tool I can swear by is the bore snake, 1st purchase I ever made where all the claims were true or better.
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October 11, 2007, 09:03 PM | #11 |
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Average Joe
I think you are looking into this a lot more than it needs to be. Here is what I took offense to with your original post: Average Joe said: What a crock, all a bunch of no-names. No real information here to get me to give up my CLP. You are correct that I can not correlate your above arrogance with them "outshooting" you. It just boils me that you make such a statement without knowing a thing about the product. Those "no names" are big names in certain circles...and they are friends of mine. Not everyone knows "Average Joe" either. By the way, CLP is not the end all, be all of gun cleaning products. (Smile Joe, its just a friendly forum.) FACT: This product has extensive testing. Here is Don Kettles (President of the company) direct line. Please call him and have him send you the test reports. I am not sure, but if you google Gunzilla there has to be data out there. 517.321.8416 [email protected] www.topduckproducts.com Again, I have no ties to this product at all. However, I do not make a judgement call without first doing my homework. Average Joe, I am sure you are a nice guy...let's keep it friendly TNT |
October 12, 2007, 04:22 AM | #12 |
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I'm game to give it a try. I read the 'testimonials' and some BP shooter claimed he cleaned his smokepole with 4 damp patches. maybe after 1 or a very few shots, but a range session of say, 24-30 shots? the ONLY way to clean real BP or Pyro residue is with water (preferably hot and soapy) or my favorite, windshield washer fluid. and this after bore brushing to loosen then patching to get the most of the loose stuff out.
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October 12, 2007, 06:55 AM | #13 |
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TNT, do a google search for Breakfree CLP military testing requirements. Then do a search for your product. See my point ? Just because the president of an company says his product is best, dosen't meany anything. You must have stats to back it up. By the way, no anger is intended, just pure facts, so don't get all upset if somebody questions your comments. We are all friends here.
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October 12, 2007, 07:27 AM | #14 |
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Fair enough Average Joe. I do know there are published reports. I saw them at Camp Perry last July.
All products are new at some point. Why don't you try some before passing comment? Like I said, Don Kettles is a nice guy. Give him a call and he will send you info and some product. What could it hurt? I do not care if you ever use the stuff, but how can you chime in when you haven't been given full disclosure? Also, there are plenty of military folks using Gunzilla...and I am sure more to come. It does not bother me when someone challenges my posts. It is the shear arrogance of your original comments (before I even made my original post) that scream closed-mindedness. Just give something a chance before pushing it aside. I don't take it personal....I'm having a ball! TNT |
October 12, 2007, 07:37 AM | #15 |
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The reason military testing requirements may not be readily available for Gunzilla, or quite a few other cleaners, guns, vehicles, clothing, soap, boots, knives and on and on and on, is because of the difficulty of getting a huge bureaucracy to accept - for even possible use and initial testing - a new product, any new product - (recall the "new" US Handgun of many years and ultimately futile confusion.) - particularly a huge government bureaucracy. And even more so a product from a tiny new company. We're talking about the US Government here.
If you want to wait until military testing is done on any new product you try you'll be trying very few products, especially in the general weapon or weapon maintenance area. And that's fine. |
October 12, 2007, 02:32 PM | #16 |
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I couldn't have said it any better. Thanks. TNT |
October 13, 2007, 11:43 AM | #17 |
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"but 1 cleaning tool I can swear by is the bore snake, 1st purchase I ever made where all the claims were true or better."
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October 13, 2007, 01:00 PM | #18 |
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Werewolf,
A boresnake is a rope-like cleaning tool that can be packed in a very small space. It's similar to the early 1903 Springfield rifle cleaning rope, but much better. Boresnakes are caliber sized braided ropes with a bronze bristle brush embedded in them. A brass weight on one end allows you to pass the rope down the bore and pull it through. Since they're sized for the caliber, the thick end of the rope can be treated with bore cleaner such that one or two passes usually cleans the bore quickly. These are especially handy in the field where you may need to clean a barrel but can't carry a cleaning kit.
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October 13, 2007, 01:07 PM | #19 |
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You can just use it dry also, and also after using patches to put solvent in bore - it can be used in variety of ways. Works real nice, especially for light to moderate cleaning.
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October 14, 2007, 04:49 AM | #20 |
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The bore snake is a GREAT product and I have one for every caliber gun I own.
Where do you guy this gunzilla product anyway? Im willing to try it at least once
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October 15, 2007, 12:10 PM | #22 |
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I've seen those bore snakes but never tried it. When it gets dirty how do you clean it?
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October 15, 2007, 12:15 PM | #23 |
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cleaning bore snakes
A bucket of hot soapy water works. If you dare put it in a sock bag and toss it in the washer.
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October 15, 2007, 12:25 PM | #24 |
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So you need a separate one for each caliber?
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October 15, 2007, 06:52 PM | #25 |
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yes, a separate one of each caliber or rather each bore size. you can use the same snake in any of the many 22 cal barrels eg 223, 22-250 etc.
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