Rossi Model R461

dabigguns357 · May 25, 2008, 09:18 PM

I was wandering if anyone owns a rossi model 461 .357 snubnose and what type of ammo would be ok to use in it.My father gave me one yesterday and i haven't been able to find out much about them.He bought it new a few years ago and has never fired it,but it appears in good working order,though i haven't taken it to the range yet.I do own a S&w 686 and the ammo i use in it is 180 grain fed hi-shok.Will this type of ammo work in the rossi or should i try 38 cal ammo.It will be for home defense only.I just don't know enough about this gun to carry it all the time.Is this a gun that will blow up in my face or can it be trusted.

scoutleader · May 26, 2008, 07:39 AM

I just bought one a month ago. So far I have run 300 rounds of 357 and 300 rounds of 38 through it at the range with no problems. Some people will say that it wont hold up to full power loads but I have not had a problem yet but mine is still pretty new. Mine has become my summer carry option using 357 wad cutters.
Danny

daveydoo · May 26, 2008, 07:45 AM

461 is the 2" blue model. If it is a new model Taurus has been involved and there lock is installed. In general Rossi has improved like Taurus. I would not fear using full loads. New Rossi are backed with lifetime warranty. So go ahead and make it day...break it if you can

dabigguns357 · May 26, 2008, 04:37 PM

I am looking at the gun and i see no lock system below the hammer like taurus has,is that a bad sign.As for ccw,do ya'll think it will be ok to carry on a regular basis.Right now i'm carrying my sig239,but it's gettin warmer and i want something a little smaller.Oh and thanks for all the replies so far.

scoutleader · May 26, 2008, 06:03 PM

I got my 461 just for shorts season, my 45 just to heavy, keep pulling my shorts down

Danny

Qwiks draw · May 27, 2008, 01:06 AM

daveydoo · May 27, 2008, 08:42 AM

No, it is not bad. It was made before Taurus took part in the interest of the company. Any late model revolver can handle 357 for the except of Alfa steel revolvers. Rossi are fine call the company and find out the date by using the serial number.

scoutleader · May 27, 2008, 10:59 AM

I think I am going to try some of the speer gold dot shorts in mine this weekend. There is not much kick in the 357 round but just don't think it is much more effective than the 38 in that short of a barrel. On the plus side of shooting 38 it is cheaper than 357!
Danny

Robby · May 27, 2008, 01:25 PM

I have run mostly 158 gr fmj, thru my 461. But It is 2007 production, and I keep the same size JHP in it for Home Defence. I will carry the same when my CC permit comes thru, hopefully this week. It has been perfect to me, just a little heavier than the 5 rd competition, and a little harder to find a good fitting holster off the racks.

dabigguns357 · May 27, 2008, 03:40 PM

Here is another question i have.Can any one tell me a good holster for it.I already have a belly band for my sig239 but it doesn't really fit well for my rossi.I will need it for ccw.Thanks for all ya'lls advice.

Qwiks draw · May 28, 2008, 02:42 AM

Here's some links on the holster issue.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=800.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=3435.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=4803.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=4175.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...30664#msg30664

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...16222#msg16222

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...14652#msg14652

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...46049#msg46049

rdoggsilva · May 28, 2008, 04:57 PM

I have the Rossi 462 stainless. I have be working up a FBI load in +p. It is a well built weapon that I use for packet carry. If you start looking for a holster get one for the Colt Detective Special.

dabigguns357 · June 8, 2008, 09:19 PM

Well i finilly got the 461 to the range the other day and it went quit well,In fact my wife liked it as much as i did.She told me that with more practice she wanted to conceal carry but only with .38 rounds in it.So off to the gun/pawn shop i went to find me something else,and found a rossi m677 that was only 125.00 and in perfect condition.With any luck i'll be at the gun range again this week for more shooting

.Ya'll were right about the 461 being a trustworthy gun.Thanks so much for all the imput.Now to find me a left handed holster for my new gun,great.

Hey any thoughts on the m677 will helpful.Thanks again

Qwiks draw · June 9, 2008, 08:49 AM

Supposedly any holster that fits a Colt Detective Special is fits a 461 or 677. Or what fits a461/ 462 will fit a 677.

I'd check out Galco,Bianchi,High Noon,Michael's of Oregon and Don Hume for starters to see what they have.
www.uncle-mikes.com www.kdholstes.com www.usgalco.com
www.desantisholster.com
www.bianchi-intl.com
www.holsterstor.com www.donhume.com

These should have something in that area.

apr1775 · June 11, 2008, 08:32 PM

I carry my 461 in a Detective Special holster.

Loads, I carry Federal 38 special +P+ hydra-shocks. With a 2in barrel, 357 mag loads will just give a lot of noise and flash with little velocity increases. When I shot some 357 mag handloads and the bullets in adjacent chambers jumped the crimp, which locked up the gun. No fault of the gun, just having a short barrel caused sharp muzzle jump and inertia issues.

azredhawk44 · June 12, 2008, 04:41 PM

Quote:

I do own a S&w 686 and the ammo i use in it is 180 grain fed hi-shok.Will this type of ammo work in the rossi or should i try 38 cal ammo.It will be for home defense only.

180's for home defense sound a bit stout and dense. I personally wouldn't stoke a .357 with 180's unless I was out for a walk in the woods... typically my .357's wear 140-158gr loads.

The 686 Smith can certainly handle the big 180's but I would refrain from a regular diet of the same load in the Rossi.

dabigguns357 · June 13, 2008, 09:20 PM

I wanted to thank everybody for all the input to my questions.I have made my decision on my carry ammo.I'm going to use a low recoil federal 110gr hydra-shok in .38.It took almost $100.00 and a moring at the range to get the results{fun} i wanted

.I'll leave the big ammo for my 686 s&w.

May 25, 2008, 09:18 PM	#1
dabigguns357 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2008 Location: Ona,West Virginia Posts: 1,215	Rossi Model R461 I was wandering if anyone owns a rossi model 461 .357 snubnose and what type of ammo would be ok to use in it.My father gave me one yesterday and i haven't been able to find out much about them.He bought it new a few years ago and has never fired it,but it appears in good working order,though i haven't taken it to the range yet.I do own a S&w 686 and the ammo i use in it is 180 grain fed hi-shok.Will this type of ammo work in the rossi or should i try 38 cal ammo.It will be for home defense only.I just don't know enough about this gun to carry it all the time.Is this a gun that will blow up in my face or can it be trusted.

May 26, 2008, 07:45 AM	#3
daveydoo Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2008 Location: AZ where is the rain Posts: 170	461 is the 2" blue model. If it is a new model Taurus has been involved and there lock is installed. In general Rossi has improved like Taurus. I would not fear using full loads. New Rossi are backed with lifetime warranty. So go ahead and make it day...break it if you can __________________ He that has never suffered extreme adversity knows not the full extent of his own depravation. - Charles Caleb Colton

May 26, 2008, 04:37 PM	#4
dabigguns357 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2008 Location: Ona,West Virginia Posts: 1,215	rossi I am looking at the gun and i see no lock system below the hammer like taurus has,is that a bad sign.As for ccw,do ya'll think it will be ok to carry on a regular basis.Right now i'm carrying my sig239,but it's gettin warmer and i want something a little smaller.Oh and thanks for all the replies so far.

May 27, 2008, 08:42 AM	#7
daveydoo Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2008 Location: AZ where is the rain Posts: 170	No, it is not bad. It was made before Taurus took part in the interest of the company. Any late model revolver can handle 357 for the except of Alfa steel revolvers. Rossi are fine call the company and find out the date by using the serial number. __________________ He that has never suffered extreme adversity knows not the full extent of his own depravation. - Charles Caleb Colton

May 27, 2008, 03:40 PM	#10
dabigguns357 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2008 Location: Ona,West Virginia Posts: 1,215	Rossi Here is another question i have.Can any one tell me a good holster for it.I already have a belly band for my sig239 but it doesn't really fit well for my rossi.I will need it for ccw.Thanks for all ya'lls advice.

May 26, 2008, 07:39 AM	#2
scoutleader Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2007 Location: WestTN Posts: 121	I just bought one a month ago. So far I have run 300 rounds of 357 and 300 rounds of 38 through it at the range with no problems. Some people will say that it wont hold up to full power loads but I have not had a problem yet but mine is still pretty new. Mine has become my summer carry option using 357 wad cutters. Danny

May 26, 2008, 06:03 PM	#5
scoutleader Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2007 Location: WestTN Posts: 121	I got my 461 just for shorts season, my 45 just to heavy, keep pulling my shorts down Danny

May 27, 2008, 01:06 AM	#6
Qwiks draw Junior member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Posts: 879	Here's some links to ponder about ammo for a .357 magnum,ammo for a snubbie, or about the snubbie itself. http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=6929.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=5941.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=5344.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=4679.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=3595.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=2132.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=1816.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=2485.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=4916.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=2661.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=3169.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=3383.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=945.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=2349.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=2805.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=791.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=3192.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=2689.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=935.0

May 27, 2008, 10:59 AM	#8
scoutleader Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2007 Location: WestTN Posts: 121	I think I am going to try some of the speer gold dot shorts in mine this weekend. There is not much kick in the 357 round but just don't think it is much more effective than the 38 in that short of a barrel. On the plus side of shooting 38 it is cheaper than 357! Danny

May 27, 2008, 01:25 PM	#9
Robby Member Join Date: December 28, 2007 Location: Horse Country Posts: 44	I have run mostly 158 gr fmj, thru my 461. But It is 2007 production, and I keep the same size JHP in it for Home Defence. I will carry the same when my CC permit comes thru, hopefully this week. It has been perfect to me, just a little heavier than the 5 rd competition, and a little harder to find a good fitting holster off the racks.

May 28, 2008, 02:42 AM	#11
Qwiks draw Junior member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Posts: 879	Here's some links on the holster issue. http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=800.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=3435.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=4803.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...p?topic=4175.0 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...30664#msg30664 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...16222#msg16222 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...14652#msg14652 http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/in...46049#msg46049

May 28, 2008, 04:57 PM	#12
rdoggsilva Member Join Date: May 28, 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 44	I have the Rossi 462 stainless. I have be working up a FBI load in +p. It is a well built weapon that I use for packet carry. If you start looking for a holster get one for the Colt Detective Special. __________________ John Steinbeck: Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

June 8, 2008, 09:19 PM	#13
dabigguns357 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2008 Location: Ona,West Virginia Posts: 1,215	Rossi 461 Well i finilly got the 461 to the range the other day and it went quit well,In fact my wife liked it as much as i did.She told me that with more practice she wanted to conceal carry but only with .38 rounds in it.So off to the gun/pawn shop i went to find me something else,and found a rossi m677 that was only 125.00 and in perfect condition.With any luck i'll be at the gun range again this week for more shooting.Ya'll were right about the 461 being a trustworthy gun.Thanks so much for all the imput.Now to find me a left handed holster for my new gun,great.Hey any thoughts on the m677 will helpful.Thanks again

June 9, 2008, 08:49 AM	#14
Qwiks draw Junior member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Posts: 879	Supposedly any holster that fits a Colt Detective Special is fits a 461 or 677. Or what fits a461/ 462 will fit a 677. I'd check out Galco,Bianchi,High Noon,Michael's of Oregon and Don Hume for starters to see what they have. www.uncle-mikes.com www.kdholstes.com www.usgalco.com www.desantisholster.com www.bianchi-intl.com www.holsterstor.com www.donhume.com These should have something in that area.

June 11, 2008, 08:32 PM	#15
apr1775 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 425	I carry my 461 in a Detective Special holster. Loads, I carry Federal 38 special +P+ hydra-shocks. With a 2in barrel, 357 mag loads will just give a lot of noise and flash with little velocity increases. When I shot some 357 mag handloads and the bullets in adjacent chambers jumped the crimp, which locked up the gun. No fault of the gun, just having a short barrel caused sharp muzzle jump and inertia issues.

June 13, 2008, 09:20 PM	#17
dabigguns357 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2008 Location: Ona,West Virginia Posts: 1,215	Thanks I wanted to thank everybody for all the input to my questions.I have made my decision on my carry ammo.I'm going to use a low recoil federal 110gr hydra-shok in .38.It took almost $100.00 and a moring at the range to get the results{fun} i wanted.I'll leave the big ammo for my 686 s&w.