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Old October 30, 2009, 03:01 AM   #1
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cleaning rods

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I need to be educated about cleaning rods (and bore snakes).
Sizes, style, types of material, pros and cons for them all, anything else?

Thanks for your help.
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Old October 30, 2009, 03:22 AM   #2
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For My "Do-All", My .270 Winchester...

I use a Hoppe's Elite 44" 1-Piece Coated Stainless Steel Rod with Hoppe's Elite Handle...the Handle contains Ball Bearings so it rotates easily.

Iosso Eliminator Brushes, that are Polymer/Nylon Bristles on a Brass Core.

Some say that Epoxy/Polymer coated rods pick up grit from within the bore, that can scratch Barrel Steel...I don't see how that's possible...I just wipe the rod clean every time it comes out of the bore. And being Stainless Steel under the coating, it flexes less, less contact with the Rifling.

Do NOT use an aluminum rod for Rifle Bores.

I use the brushes to loosen fouling and brush away the fouling that's been disolved...I prefer the Nylon/Polymer bristled brushes because... 1) They're Non-Metallic (easier on the bore steel)... and 2) They tend to be more resistant to Solvent... I use Butch's Bore Shine, by the way.

Always remember (I know, this thread is about Rods, not overall cleaning), it's the Solvent that removes fouling... It's the Solvent that does the work... I just prefer to use a brush for some of the process, so I make it a Nylon/Polymer Brush.

But that's My take on Cleaning Rods. That's My System, and why.
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Old October 30, 2009, 05:16 AM   #3
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G'day.

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Some say that Epoxy/Polymer coated rods pick up grit from within the bore, that can scratch Barrel Steel...I don't see how that's possible...I just wipe the rod clean every time it comes out of the bore.
When you wipe the rod, do you get much 'crud' off it?


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Do NOT use an aluminum rod for Rifle Bores.
More information please.


I'll be after information about all aspects of rifle cleaning. I've been asked by a mad keen 10 year old who wants lo learn everything about rifles. I want to make sure I get my facts correct. I haven't looked too close at the finer details before, so I have a lot to learn myself.
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Old October 30, 2009, 08:01 AM   #4
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Do NOT use an aluminum rod for Rifle Bores.

More information please.
Uncoated aluminum exposed to air results in Aluminum Oxide. Where have we heard of the term, Aluminum Oxide?
Answer: In sanding paper and grinding wheels.

Aluminum Oxide has a hard crystalline structure. The Aluminum Oxide crystals that form on a cleaning rod will be very small, but they are abrasive none the less.

When I as a kid, the school that I attended switched from an external stairway fire escape to an aluminum tube intended to be used like a play ground slide. At first, it worked very well, we were ejected out the end at high speed. After a month or two, kids could not slide down the 45 degree angel of the aluminum tube. Big mystery. Microscopic crystals of Aluminum Oxide had formed. Too much friction. There as no remedy to be had, the aluminum fire escape had to be shut down as unusable...if the aluminum oxide were to be polished off, it would just form again.
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Old October 30, 2009, 08:37 AM   #5
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I use a Hoppe's Elite 44" 1-Piece Coated Stainless Steel Rod with Hoppe's Elite Handle...the Handle contains Ball Bearings so it rotates easily.
Sounds like Hoppe's copied the excellent Dewey cleaning rods:

http://www.deweyrods.com/
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Old October 30, 2009, 09:23 AM   #6
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