Sig vs. H&K

Stalker · April 28, 2002, 09:07 PM

Which would you pick up? A Sig Sauer or a Heckler & Koch?

George Hill · April 28, 2002, 10:14 PM

I'll take a SIG over an HK... but its a REAL CLOSE call.
#3 is Glock, but back by 1/2 a track length.

branrot · April 28, 2002, 10:38 PM

Depends on which model and for what use. For carry, I'd prefer the USP because it's lighter. For a heavier carry gun, I'd prefer the P7M13, but it is not a good range gun because it gets too hot after 50 rounds.

Shoney · April 28, 2002, 10:43 PM

Only you can answer that! You have to shoot them both and decide which fits YOU. They are both fine pistols.

I chose the HK, you might like the Sig.

Regards Shoney

Shmackey · April 28, 2002, 10:49 PM

H&K hands down. I have no doubt that the Sigs are of equal--or even greater--quality, but their single mode of use (DA/SA, no safety ever) is my least favorite. But if you really love it, well, you could use your H&K that way too. You can do pretty much whatever you want.

Incursion · April 28, 2002, 11:22 PM

It depends on whether or not you're talking about old school HK (P9S and P7) or new school HK (USP). If it's old school, then definitely HK. If it's new school, I would choose SIG.

Kermit · April 28, 2002, 11:29 PM

HK w/o a doubt. Have been happy w/ all the HK's I've shot or owned. I've owned one Sig in the past, but I've shot a few. I've only been impressed by one, a W. German P226 9mm. Now, that's a sweet pistol. But for the most part, HK's do it for ME.

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Ala Dan · April 29, 2002, 02:39 AM

By far and away, SIG.

A closer race would be H&K vs. Glock.

And it's the GLOCK,
by the length of one chicken sandwhich.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Stalker · April 29, 2002, 06:49 AM

Which is more expensive, a Sig Sauer P226 or H&K USP?

Ewok_Guy · April 29, 2002, 08:24 AM

HK is more expensive, and more ugly.

Tamara · April 29, 2002, 09:49 AM

I prefer real HK's (P7/P9) over SIGs, but I like SIGs better than HK Lite (USP).

tetchaje · April 29, 2002, 10:17 AM

I've got both HKs (P7, USPc) and a SIG (239 9mm), and they are both great manufacturers. I think it comes down to application.

In a combat situation, where I was going to beat the heck out of the gun, both would do quite well, but the finish on the HK is more durable than the SIG.

Trigger is FAR better on the SIG.

Both are extremely accurate.

HK (USP) allows C&L
HK P7 is probably the fastest gun on the planet to get into action during reloads

SIG ergonomics are excellent

Takedown and maintenance on both is a breeze.

Soooooo, take your pick of which one fits your hands better, and shoot with confidence.

Clemmo · April 29, 2002, 11:15 AM

I couldn't decide so I own both.

I think if I had to choose just 1 it would be my USP40f SS because of the more durable finish, and no roll pins to back out.

meat · April 29, 2002, 11:56 AM

Talk about a tough question to answer! I'd have to say both, followed very closely by the glock. The Sig 210 and the Hk P7 are 2 of the best pitols there are period (right up there w/ the 1911a1 and the hi-power)! I like the Sig classics (220, 226, 228, etc.) better for their accuracy and their triggers, But I think the HK has them beat as far as their durability, finish, etc. According to my friend, they both have that "snob" appeal in the handgun world. I think he's just jealous because he's a cheapskate.

Just kidding! Whichever one you choose you can't go wrong.

chris93473 · April 29, 2002, 03:35 PM

i voted of the H&K because i think durability and relibility is more important that accuracy. H&K guns are accurate but not as accurate as SIGs are.
But the only SIGs i like are the P210 any SIG sport with a steel frame.

voodooman · April 30, 2002, 02:28 AM

close call, but SIG. here is why.

i get more accurate groupings with my p 229. but thats just me and i'm a lousy shooter.

the trigger pull is much smoother and lighter on the sigs. the HK (usp) has a longer more resistant pull.

but really i like' em both!

SVTNate · April 30, 2002, 04:09 AM

I don't understand how people think SIG's look better. They are UG-LEE! I think the 229 is a nasty looking gun, the P220 ain't bad though.

I think that both the USP and Glocks look better than SIG's. Then again, I am only 21 years old (22 on Saturday!), and I just got into guns less than 2 years ago. My tastes are hardly "traditional". Heck, my first gun was a Glock!

I think a stainless Ed Brown Kobra looks better than any of them, though

So does the 92FS.

the duck of death · April 30, 2002, 01:53 PM

Don't have an HK and have nothing against them. I do have a SP 2340 and love it. Its accurate and reliable and come up on target like my 1911s. The SP comes with 2 grips so you can find the grip that fits best.

ump45 · April 30, 2002, 02:12 PM

I don't like HK because it comes with:

1. DA/SA + decocker
2. SA + external safety
3. Controls on both sides of the gun.

Seriously, who wants that many possibilities on a self-defense gun?

My vote is for SIG, which will ALWAYS fire when you pull the trigger--Assuming it's loaded and there's a round in the tube

George Hill · April 30, 2002, 02:42 PM

SIG's come with polished rails and better triggers.
That gives it an edge.

blades67 · April 30, 2002, 08:20 PM

I chose SIG Sauer first, and second, third and fourth.

I may get an HK, but not soon. With my SIG Sauers I get better quality at a lower price.

Caseless · April 30, 2002, 09:07 PM

9mm - HK P7M8 wins
357 SIG - Sig P229/P239 win
40 S&W - HK USP 40 wins
45 ACP - HK 45 Expert wins

So I guess HK wins overall.

harrydog · May 1, 2002, 07:12 AM

Overall it's the HK for me, although I like most SIGs as well.

rauchman · May 1, 2002, 07:53 AM

Tough choice, I own both. If I had to pick one though it would be the HK. I have a USP 45F that I am able to shoot the best with out of any gun in my collection (Sig 226 9mm, Sig 225 9mm, Beretta 92FS, and of course the HK). Ergonomics are excellent on the Sig and the trigger is better as well, however I can SHOOT the HK much better. Both are very reliable, however the finish on the HK's are more durable.

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April 28, 2002, 09:07 PM	#1
Stalker Member Join Date: April 24, 2002 Posts: 50	Sig vs. H&K Which would you pick up? A Sig Sauer or a Heckler & Koch?

April 28, 2002, 10:14 PM	#2
George Hill Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,546	I'll take a SIG over an HK... but its a REAL CLOSE call. #3 is Glock, but back by 1/2 a track length. __________________ MAD OGRE

April 28, 2002, 10:43 PM	#4
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	Only you can answer that! You have to shoot them both and decide which fits YOU. They are both fine pistols. I chose the HK, you might like the Sig. Regards Shoney __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111

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April 28, 2002, 10:38 PM	#3
branrot Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: Miami Beach, FL, USA Posts: 1,367	Depends on which model and for what use. For carry, I'd prefer the USP because it's lighter. For a heavier carry gun, I'd prefer the P7M13, but it is not a good range gun because it gets too hot after 50 rounds.

April 28, 2002, 10:49 PM	#5
Shmackey Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,117	H&K hands down. I have no doubt that the Sigs are of equal--or even greater--quality, but their single mode of use (DA/SA, no safety ever) is my least favorite. But if you really love it, well, you could use your H&K that way too. You can do pretty much whatever you want.

April 28, 2002, 11:22 PM	#6
Incursion Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2000 Location: TX Posts: 803	It depends on whether or not you're talking about old school HK (P9S and P7) or new school HK (USP). If it's old school, then definitely HK. If it's new school, I would choose SIG.

April 28, 2002, 11:29 PM	#7
Kermit Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,020	HK w/o a doubt. Have been happy w/ all the HK's I've shot or owned. I've owned one Sig in the past, but I've shot a few. I've only been impressed by one, a W. German P226 9mm. Now, that's a sweet pistol. But for the most part, HK's do it for ME.

April 29, 2002, 02:39 AM	#9
Ala Dan Member in memoriam Join Date: August 13, 1999 Location: In The HOT, Humid, and Mu Posts: 6,116	Sig vs. H&K? By far and away, SIG. A closer race would be H&K vs. Glock. And it's the GLOCK, by the length of one chicken sandwhich. Best Wishes, Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

April 29, 2002, 06:49 AM	#10
Stalker Member Join Date: April 24, 2002 Posts: 50	Which is more expensive, a Sig Sauer P226 or H&K USP?

April 29, 2002, 08:24 AM	#11
Ewok_Guy Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2001 Location: Endor Posts: 1,664	HK is more expensive, and more ugly. __________________ "Death and honor are thought to be the same, but today I have learned that sometimes they are not." --------------------- " I like big fat men like you. When they fall they make more noise! ...and sometimes they never get up." -Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

April 29, 2002, 09:49 AM	#12
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	I prefer real HK's (P7/P9) over SIGs, but I like SIGs better than HK Lite (USP). __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

April 29, 2002, 10:17 AM	#13
tetchaje Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2002 Location: Utah Posts: 234	I've got both HKs (P7, USPc) and a SIG (239 9mm), and they are both great manufacturers. I think it comes down to application. In a combat situation, where I was going to beat the heck out of the gun, both would do quite well, but the finish on the HK is more durable than the SIG. Trigger is FAR better on the SIG. Both are extremely accurate. HK (USP) allows C&L HK P7 is probably the fastest gun on the planet to get into action during reloads SIG ergonomics are excellent Takedown and maintenance on both is a breeze. Soooooo, take your pick of which one fits your hands better, and shoot with confidence.

April 29, 2002, 11:15 AM	#14
Clemmo Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Posts: 53	I couldn't decide so I own both. I think if I had to choose just 1 it would be my USP40f SS because of the more durable finish, and no roll pins to back out.

April 29, 2002, 11:56 AM	#15
meat Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 273	Talk about a tough question to answer! I'd have to say both, followed very closely by the glock. The Sig 210 and the Hk P7 are 2 of the best pitols there are period (right up there w/ the 1911a1 and the hi-power)! I like the Sig classics (220, 226, 228, etc.) better for their accuracy and their triggers, But I think the HK has them beat as far as their durability, finish, etc. According to my friend, they both have that "snob" appeal in the handgun world. I think he's just jealous because he's a cheapskate. Just kidding! Whichever one you choose you can't go wrong.

April 29, 2002, 03:35 PM	#16
chris93473 Member Join Date: April 10, 2002 Location: R. Daley is stupid Posts: 72	i voted of the H&K because i think durability and relibility is more important that accuracy. H&K guns are accurate but not as accurate as SIGs are. But the only SIGs i like are the P210 any SIG sport with a steel frame. __________________ American as Apple Pie

April 30, 2002, 02:28 AM	#17
voodooman Member Join Date: April 20, 2002 Posts: 18	close call, but SIG. here is why. i get more accurate groupings with my p 229. but thats just me and i'm a lousy shooter. the trigger pull is much smoother and lighter on the sigs. the HK (usp) has a longer more resistant pull. but really i like' em both!

April 30, 2002, 04:09 AM	#18
SVTNate Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 191	I don't understand how people think SIG's look better. They are UG-LEE! I think the 229 is a nasty looking gun, the P220 ain't bad though. I think that both the USP and Glocks look better than SIG's. Then again, I am only 21 years old (22 on Saturday!), and I just got into guns less than 2 years ago. My tastes are hardly "traditional". Heck, my first gun was a Glock! I think a stainless Ed Brown Kobra looks better than any of them, though So does the 92FS. __________________ NRA member, SoCal Libertarian USP9/USP45/G30/P220ST

April 30, 2002, 01:53 PM	#19
the duck of death Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2002 Posts: 299	Don't have an HK and have nothing against them. I do have a SP 2340 and love it. Its accurate and reliable and come up on target like my 1911s. The SP comes with 2 grips so you can find the grip that fits best.

April 30, 2002, 02:12 PM	#20
ump45 Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2001 Posts: 286	I don't like HK because it comes with: 1. DA/SA + decocker 2. SA + external safety 3. Controls on both sides of the gun. Seriously, who wants that many possibilities on a self-defense gun? My vote is for SIG, which will ALWAYS fire when you pull the trigger--Assuming it's loaded and there's a round in the tube

April 30, 2002, 02:42 PM	#21
George Hill Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,546	SIG's come with polished rails and better triggers. That gives it an edge. __________________ MAD OGRE

April 30, 2002, 08:20 PM	#22
blades67 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 6,014	I chose SIG Sauer first, and second, third and fourth. I may get an HK, but not soon. With my SIG Sauers I get better quality at a lower price. __________________ Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat! I hunt, therefore I am.

April 30, 2002, 09:07 PM	#23
Caseless Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2002 Location: P.R.C. Posts: 121	My choices 9mm - HK P7M8 wins 357 SIG - Sig P229/P239 win 40 S&W - HK USP 40 wins 45 ACP - HK 45 Expert wins So I guess HK wins overall.

May 1, 2002, 07:12 AM	#24
harrydog Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2000 Posts: 283	Overall it's the HK for me, although I like most SIGs as well.

May 1, 2002, 07:53 AM	#25
rauchman Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2001 Location: nj Posts: 186	Tough choice, I own both. If I had to pick one though it would be the HK. I have a USP 45F that I am able to shoot the best with out of any gun in my collection (Sig 226 9mm, Sig 225 9mm, Beretta 92FS, and of course the HK). Ergonomics are excellent on the Sig and the trigger is better as well, however I can SHOOT the HK much better. Both are very reliable, however the finish on the HK's are more durable.

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