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June 22, 1999, 09:54 AM | #1 |
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Hi Guys,
I was talking with a very good friend of mine on the telephone and the subject of home defensse equipment came up. So I asked him what he kept to defend his homestead, wife, and three young boys. His bedside arsenal consisted of: Colt AR-15 submachine gun in 9mm Parabellum Three spare 32-shot magazines for the Colt Remington 870 with a 12 1/2 inch barrel and pistol grip Spare shells for the shotgun Browning Hi-Power in 9mm with spare mags Flashlight As he lives in the sticks of Nebraska I was rather surprised he would keep two class III weapons and a handgun for home defense. Not that I'm being critical...I was just a bit surprised. Many authorities advocate keeping a wide range of equipment next to the bed. Massad Ayoob even recommends using a police utility belt to keep everything together. So what do you, the TFL members, have in your home defense kits? Perhaps we can learn a trick or two from one another, eh? - Anthony |
June 22, 1999, 10:19 AM | #2 |
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And you work for BATF?
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June 22, 1999, 10:19 AM | #3 |
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-Colt Python .357 magnum w/3 speedloaders
-Springfield 1911 - 4 8 round MagPac magazines -Remington 870 Police model with 7 round tube -Glock 19 w/2 15round and 1 17 round magazine -Winchester 94 30-30 -Remington 700 PSS .308 2 P.A.C.A. Level IIIa body armor with Spectra shield Trauma Plates 1 3 D Cell Mag-Lite Flashlight 1 Surefire 6Z Flashlight |
June 22, 1999, 10:22 AM | #4 |
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I believe it is not just important to have a good home defense equipment, but where you have it. For instance, in the Master Bedroom is my main equipment
High Powered Flash Light Ka-Bar Knife Butt end of a Cue Stick Cellular Phone Colt 38 Special (above my head) S&W 625-4, 45 ACP Revolver Ruger 44 Mag Remington Shot Gun A safe with other firearms Next to my computer where I spend a lot of time S&W Model 410 S&W 40 Cal Buck Knife Flash Light Phone In the bathroom a flash light 38 Special In the living Room Flash Light Colt 45 ACP 1911 A1 Next to Reloading Bench Flash Light 45 ACP Colt 45 ACP Series 80 Case Knife ------------------ Society is safer when the criminal does not know who is armed |
June 22, 1999, 10:30 AM | #5 |
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Isn't it illegal to use clas III for home defense?
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June 22, 1999, 10:39 AM | #6 |
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Walkin' Man - No
My bedside. My constant companion - SW 642. |
June 22, 1999, 11:08 AM | #7 |
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Hi Kodiac,
No, I'm not BATF. Just a lowly technical writer in Texas. - Anthony |
June 22, 1999, 11:13 AM | #8 |
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i fully trust the police to take care of me should the need arrive. i have no self-defense weapons...
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June 22, 1999, 11:23 AM | #9 |
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Bedroom: 45 Auto; 12 Ga Beretta Auto riot gun
Kitchen: 9mm Luger P'08 Basement: Colt AR15 SP1 Red Car: S&W model 640 357 Magnum 2 1/8" White Car: Glock 27 40 S&W; dbl bbl 12 gauge 18" bbls. Pocket: S&W .38 Special Airweight Centennial ------------------ Son of Liberty |
June 22, 1999, 11:45 AM | #10 |
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Medium-size Chow/Newfie mix
S&W 642, +P Silvertips, two speedloaders Surefire 6Z Wolf Ears 1030A If I need more than that, I'll get the Bushmaster out of the safe.... |
June 22, 1999, 12:08 PM | #11 |
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Yeah, I trust the police to protect me too. Let's see now Home Envasion as my front door is being knocked down, which will I choose 911 or my 45 ACP. The police may be good but they are not that good to be there prior to the assault happening to you and your family. I respect your ideals and your choice of not owning a defense firearm, but I would highly suggest not to put all your trust into the police department, for it will take time for them to arrive. Most robbies are over in a manner of minutes and you and your family could be severely injured and God-Forbid killed in the process. If there were a break-in to my home I would dial 911, inform the Perp I have done so and ask him to vacate my home. I would also inform him I was armed and trained to use the firearm and I would not hesititate to do so in protecting my family and myself. I pray to God that this day will never come, but if it does I pray to God to give the strength and knowledge in making the right decisions at the time.
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June 22, 1999, 12:52 PM | #12 |
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A pre-ban Louisville Slugger with night sights.
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June 22, 1999, 01:03 PM | #13 |
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An old couch to start with.
My 2 (120 & 180lbs) black Great Danes have their own "private" couch and a free run of the place. 2nd, Moss 500a 12ga ------------------ Same Shot, Different Day |
June 22, 1999, 01:29 PM | #14 |
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At hand, always, 1911A1 and 2 spare magazines. If I am dressed the stuff is on my body. If I am not dressed it is REAL close at hand.
Remington 870, extended magazine, close by also. Loaded with #4 buck. Someplace here is a FAL with a couple of original 30 round magazines, loaded down by 3, for any distant shots required. Or for those hunkered down behind a car or some such. ------------------ Ne Conjuge Nobiscum |
June 22, 1999, 01:45 PM | #15 |
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ATTICUS, I have slugger beside my bed also, though it's a softball model not the dreaded and feared assault version.
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June 22, 1999, 01:45 PM | #16 |
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Don, I'm sure longhair was just pulling your leg. And, keeping mum.
Boy, some of you guys could invest a lot in firearms if you owned too big a home. |
June 22, 1999, 02:27 PM | #17 |
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Sheesh!! Boy do I feel naked compared to you guys! I all have (at the ready) is my Glock M17 and my Surefire 6Z flashlight, and I live in Los Angeles! The only people around here who have class III weapons are the gang members. (Fully registered of course)
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June 22, 1999, 02:34 PM | #18 |
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A highly trained, highly rational LEO friend of mine keeps a gun in almost every room of his house, including the kitchen. Compared with him (and some of the earlier posters in this thread) my home defense "arsenal" is quite modest:
Glock 21 on my side of the bed. S&W Model 10 on my wife's side of the bed. Glock 17 at the other end of the house. Winchester 12-gauge Defender in front hall closet. |
June 22, 1999, 02:42 PM | #19 |
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A pre-ban Looseyville? What, does it smack the goblin multiple times for each swing?
Ahem. My turn to tease the BATmen: Mossberg 500 12-gauge pump to the left of the bed, alternate #00 and #8; Breda 710 12-gauge auto to the right of the bed, #00; S&W .357 Magnum, on the nightstand, Cor-Bon 125gr; Ruger Mk-I .22LR auto, in the medicine cabinet, .22 Quik-Shok; Buck model 119 between the mattress and box spring; Short-handled hatchet(!) in the kitchen junk drawer; and a 20-pound satanic-looking fiercely protective black British Shorthair who takes on (and beats) bigass dawgs. ------------------ "We are going to fight. We are going to be hurt. But in the end, we will stand." --Roland Deschain |
June 22, 1999, 03:11 PM | #20 |
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2 125 lb rottweillers,(alarm and first layer)
3 40 lb aussie sheep dogs . if they get past them , i'll think of something. cmore NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM |
June 22, 1999, 04:12 PM | #21 |
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Rem 870 Marine With Turkey load
Smith&Wesson 686 357. ------------------ "Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms under our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" - Patrick Henry |
June 22, 1999, 05:35 PM | #22 |
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I am usually wearing a gun when awake. When I hit the rack, it gets put up on top of my book shelf or my wardrobe, depending on whether or not the wife is making me sleep on the couch.
There is a loaded (but not chambered) 12 gauge pump in the Walk-in Closet along with a loaded Speed Six and two speedloaders. There is also some body armor in there next to the shotgun. There are a couple other revolvers loaded and stashed elsewhere in the house. In the gun room there are mags loaded for the ARs and some other guns. My LE equipment, including armor and duty belt, is in a Grab bag which is either in my office/den or occassionaly gets left out in the truck. Flashlights in many rooms. Full Time German Security Guard/Mobile Alarm on patrol in the yard. ------------------ -Essayons |
June 22, 1999, 05:59 PM | #23 |
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Mi pocket nine is the only gun outside the gunsafe. When I leave so does it. I used to have my Moss 500 12 gauge riot gun by the bed, but in today's political climate do not want to be tried if a punk steals it and kills somebody. If 9mm is good enough to protect me outside the home it should protect me in it.( The wife has a Mak in .380 that can be found in different locals around the house)
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June 22, 1999, 06:11 PM | #24 |
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I hate to bring this up but... If I have soaked my pre ban Louisville Slugger in coal oil and I don't have a Class II have I done something illegal? Now I really haven't done this yet but I was told if I soaked it that it would stand up better during rapid fire. Just curious.
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June 22, 1999, 07:44 PM | #25 |
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A question:
It would seem that if you are going to have several different handguns around the house, that they should all have the same manual of arms. I.E. all Glocks or all USPs, all DA revolvers, ect. Does anyone agree with this? |
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