What are the five best 9mm's ever made?

RCS · May 28, 2000, 01:41 AM

Ok this is a topic that will stir discussion.
What are the five best nines ever made? This is overall, looks, performance, feel. Here's my list, everyone else is free to agree or disagree:

BTW, this list is not in any particular order.

1. Browning High Power
2. Glock 19
3. CZ-75
4. Beretta 92
5. HK P7M8

What isn't here that should be?
What is here that shouldn't be?

oktagon · May 28, 2000, 02:00 AM

1. Browning High Power
2. Glock 19
3. CZ-75
4. Beretta 92
5. HK P7M8

I would agree with this list, although here are some more:
HK USP
Sig P226

BTW, if you ask me what are the best 3 9mm's ever made were, I would say
Browning HP
Beretta 92
HK P7M8 (my favorite, carry very often).

What is interesting, is that very few people ever talk about 3d generation Smith 9mm pistols.
They are kind of sleepers in the stores, but in my opinion, all politics aside, they are really fine autos, especially the full size 5906 and 5903 models. I have more than 4k rounds through my 5903 and only had 3 stopages, all of them in one day and almost certanly ammo related. I am not suggesting that they belong to the 5 best list, but they should not be neglected. Many PD's issue them.

Ala Dan · May 28, 2000, 04:09 AM

Here's my list:

1) Sig P210
2) Sig P228
3) Sig P226
4) Browning Hi-Power
5) Glock's 17 & 19

I'm sure their will be a lot of varied opinions as to what's best? Guess, it's
whatever works for you.

For everyday
all around use, I would choose the Sig
P228.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Richard · May 28, 2000, 04:23 AM

I can only go by my experience and my choices are:

1) Walther P88
2) Browning High-Power
3) TZ75
4) Sig/Sauer P288
5) Glock Model 19

I own and shoot these on a regular basis.

Regards,

Richard

sigarms229 · May 28, 2000, 05:19 AM

Here they are in no paticular order:

1. Browning Hi-Power
2. Sig 210
3. Sig 226
4. Glock 17
5. HK P7M8

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John
"Never argue with an idiot, they pull you down to their level and beat you with experience"

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Stephen A. Camp · May 28, 2000, 05:56 AM

Hello. I would say the five best are:
SIG P210, Browning HP, CZ-75, HK P7, and Walther P88. Best to all.

legion3 · May 28, 2000, 06:00 AM

No particular order:

1. Beretta 92
2. Glock 19
3. Browning Hi-Power
4. H & K P7 PSP
5. CZ 75

With the Walther P 88 and historically the P38 close behind.

Nukem · May 28, 2000, 07:06 AM

SIG 226, top of the list, all the rest are also rans, IMHO

Tamara · May 28, 2000, 07:43 AM

I'm gonna cheat, and go with 5 most important:
1: P-08- the gun that established 9mm.
2: P-35 Hi-Power- showed the way to 9mm's raison d'etre: mag capacity.
3: P-38- Demonstrated that a rugged service auto can be DA.
4: *&* M659- Combined DA, high capacity, and stainless steel in one gun.
5: Glock 17- Altered the face of combat 9mm's for good with a rethink of just what a 'combat' auto should be.

Runners up would be: *&* M39, SIG P-225, H&K P7, and Beretta 92 for, repectively; legitimizing the DA 9mm in America, Proving that a DA auto can function as well w/o a safety as a DA wheelgun, approaching the idea of a combat auto from an entirely new (too new, probably) direction, and setting a new standard in 9mm service pistol reliability and ruggedness (at the expense of size and weight).

Just my thoughts...

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"..but never ever Fear. Fear is for the enemy. Fear and Bullets."
10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!

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jetrecbn1 · May 28, 2000, 08:42 AM

BHP
CZ75
Sig 226/228
Glock 17/19
Kahr K9

These are close
Beretta 92. Sig 210. Walther p88/p88c. Hk p7

Glenn E. Meyer · May 28, 2000, 09:19 AM

Glock 17
19
18
26
34

nyah

Rex Feral · May 28, 2000, 09:27 AM

Looks don't matter to me, I'll rate them by function and fit in my hand, in order:

1) Browning HP
2) H&K P7M8
3) Glock 17
4) Sig P226
5) Beretta 92FS

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Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war.

branrot · May 28, 2000, 11:49 AM

Good question. Tough call. Personally, I look for combat effectiveness, which to me is a combination of size, functionality, how it feels, accuracy, and firepower (type of round and number of rounds).

1. Beretta 92.
2. Glock 17/19.
3. Sig 225/226/228/229.
4. Walther P99.
5. HK USP.

Runners up would be the Sig 210, the S&W 5906, and the HK P7. I say runners up not to imply that they are inferior, but only to say that they're not as combat worthy IMHO.

BrokenArrow · May 28, 2000, 12:01 PM

Good post Tamara!

My favorites are (in no particualr order):

Beretta
Browning
CZ
HK
SIG

I also think the Glocks, Ruger, Walther, Syeyr, Taurus and S&W are excellent. The Star is very good too. Any quality clones of the above.

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PeterGunn · May 28, 2000, 01:07 PM

1. Sig "P" Series Pistols (no explination needed)

2. Beretta 92 Series (very reliable, but a little big in the hand for me)

3. Browning Hi-Power (handsome and very comfortable)

4. Kahr K9 (best ballance of size, weight, and capacity)

5. S&W 3rd. Generation (Pre-sellout ONLY)

If I had more choices, HK and Glock might have made the list. It isn't that I hate HK, I just hate the sharp checking on the front of the grip of hte HK. It really chews up on the hand, and is probably unnecessary for a 9mm.

The Glock is undoubtably one of the finest designs ever manufactured, but for me the grip angle is way to severe. It feels as though my hand is contorting to a weird position just to aim.

Lots of very fine 9mm available, I guess I am just a little picky. Just because a particular gun didn't make my list doesn't mean I think it's a bad gun, it just means it hasen't worked for me.

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"By His stripes we are healed..."

PeterGunn

Jeff OTMG · May 28, 2000, 01:19 PM

SIG P210
BHP
SIG P DA series (225, 220, 226, 228)
Kahr MK9

Oh no! I only have one spot left for CZ, Steyr GB, H&K P9S Competition, Glock 19, and S&W 940.

Dave Finfrock · May 28, 2000, 02:51 PM

1. P7
2. P7M8
3. P7M13
4. SIG P210
5. Browning Hi-Power

Christopher · May 28, 2000, 02:57 PM

1. HK P7
2. SIG 228
3. BHP
4. G17
5. CZ75

old hawk · May 28, 2000, 03:21 PM

hi power
po8 luger
p38 walther
s=w 659
cz52 with 9mm nato barrel

denfoote · May 28, 2000, 03:29 PM

Here's my list.
Glock 19
Ruger P95
Walther P38
P08 Luger
Browning Hi Power

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BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!!
Defend the Constitution from the foreign threat!!!!

Russell92 · May 28, 2000, 04:02 PM

somewhat in order:

1. Glock 17/19
2. Beretta 92FS
3. Sig Sauer 226/228
4. HK P7
5. HK USP

there are probably more i forgot to mention also that i like a lot.

Archie · May 28, 2000, 05:54 PM

I would add the Star BKM. The only factory pocket pistol in 9x19. Therefore, to me, the most useful 9x19.

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Archie

Ruben Nasser · May 28, 2000, 06:23 PM

Somewhat in order:
1. Glock 19/17
2. Sig 228/226
3. CZ 75
4. Beretta 92
5. Browning HP
Runners up:
6. Sig 210
7. HK P7M8
8. Walther P99
9. HK USP
10. Walther P88
S&W? They are good, but I've never liked their pistols, and certainly not 9mm Rugers!!

Gremlin · May 28, 2000, 07:35 PM

Limiting my selections to guns that I have actually shot:

1) CZ75
2) Browning Hi Power
3) Sig 228
4) Ruger P Series
5) Walther P88
6) Astra A100

The Silver Bullet 1719 · May 28, 2000, 08:35 PM

1.Glock 17
2.Glock 19
3.Browning Hi-Power
4.Sig P-228
5.CZ-75

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AK-47, When you absolutely have to kill every mother&%$#er in the room...accept no substitutes.

May 28, 2000, 01:41 AM	#1
RCS Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 2000 Posts: 159	What are the five best 9mm's ever made? Ok this is a topic that will stir discussion. What are the five best nines ever made? This is overall, looks, performance, feel. Here's my list, everyone else is free to agree or disagree: BTW, this list is not in any particular order. 1. Browning High Power 2. Glock 19 3. CZ-75 4. Beretta 92 5. HK P7M8 What isn't here that should be? What is here that shouldn't be?

May 28, 2000, 02:00 AM	#2
oktagon Junior member Join Date: April 1, 2000 Posts: 357	1. Browning High Power 2. Glock 19 3. CZ-75 4. Beretta 92 5. HK P7M8 I would agree with this list, although here are some more: HK USP Sig P226 BTW, if you ask me what are the best 3 9mm's ever made were, I would say Browning HP Beretta 92 HK P7M8 (my favorite, carry very often). What is interesting, is that very few people ever talk about 3d generation Smith 9mm pistols. They are kind of sleepers in the stores, but in my opinion, all politics aside, they are really fine autos, especially the full size 5906 and 5903 models. I have more than 4k rounds through my 5903 and only had 3 stopages, all of them in one day and almost certanly ammo related. I am not suggesting that they belong to the 5 best list, but they should not be neglected. Many PD's issue them.

May 28, 2000, 04:09 AM	#3
Ala Dan Member in memoriam Join Date: August 13, 1999 Location: In The HOT, Humid, and Mu Posts: 6,116	Here's my list: 1) Sig P210 2) Sig P228 3) Sig P226 4) Browning Hi-Power 5) Glock's 17 & 19 I'm sure their will be a lot of varied opinions as to what's best? Guess, it's whatever works for you. For everyday all around use, I would choose the Sig P228. Best Wishes, Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

May 28, 2000, 04:23 AM	#4
Richard Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 1998 Location: Southeastern Michigan Posts: 1,305	I can only go by my experience and my choices are: 1) Walther P88 2) Browning High-Power 3) TZ75 4) Sig/Sauer P288 5) Glock Model 19 I own and shoot these on a regular basis. Regards, Richard

May 28, 2000, 05:19 AM	#5
sigarms229 Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 1999 Location: Southcentral, PA Posts: 106	Here they are in no paticular order: 1. Browning Hi-Power 2. Sig 210 3. Sig 226 4. Glock 17 5. HK P7M8 ------------------ John "Never argue with an idiot, they pull you down to their level and beat you with experience" [This message has been edited by sigarms229 (edited May 28, 2000).]

May 28, 2000, 05:56 AM	#6
Stephen A. Camp Staff In Memoriam Join Date: April 16, 1999 Posts: 2,570	Hello. I would say the five best are: SIG P210, Browning HP, CZ-75, HK P7, and Walther P88. Best to all.

May 28, 2000, 06:00 AM	#7
legion3 Junior member Join Date: February 23, 2000 Posts: 56	No particular order: 1. Beretta 92 2. Glock 19 3. Browning Hi-Power 4. H & K P7 PSP 5. CZ 75 With the Walther P 88 and historically the P38 close behind.

May 28, 2000, 07:06 AM	#8
Nukem Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2000 Posts: 709	SIG 226, top of the list, all the rest are also rans, IMHO

May 28, 2000, 07:43 AM	#9
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	I'm gonna cheat, and go with 5 most important: 1: P-08- the gun that established 9mm. 2: P-35 Hi-Power- showed the way to 9mm's raison d'etre: mag capacity. 3: P-38- Demonstrated that a rugged service auto can be DA. 4: & M659- Combined DA, high capacity, and stainless steel in one gun. 5: Glock 17- Altered the face of combat 9mm's for good with a rethink of just what a 'combat' auto should be. Runners up would be: & M39, SIG P-225, H&K P7, and Beretta 92 for, repectively; legitimizing the DA 9mm in America, Proving that a DA auto can function as well w/o a safety as a DA wheelgun, approaching the idea of a combat auto from an entirely new (too new, probably) direction, and setting a new standard in 9mm service pistol reliability and ruggedness (at the expense of size and weight). Just my thoughts... ------------------ "..but never ever Fear. Fear is for the enemy. Fear and Bullets." 10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog! [This message has been edited by Tamara (edited May 28, 2000).]

May 28, 2000, 08:42 AM	#10
jetrecbn1 Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2000 Posts: 200	BHP CZ75 Sig 226/228 Glock 17/19 Kahr K9 These are close Beretta 92. Sig 210. Walther p88/p88c. Hk p7

May 28, 2000, 09:19 AM	#11
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Glock 17 19 18 26 34 nyah

May 28, 2000, 09:27 AM	#12
Rex Feral Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2000 Location: Southern NH, USA Posts: 471	Looks don't matter to me, I'll rate them by function and fit in my hand, in order: 1) Browning HP 2) H&K P7M8 3) Glock 17 4) Sig P226 5) Beretta 92FS ------------------ Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war.

May 28, 2000, 11:49 AM	#13
branrot Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: Miami Beach, FL, USA Posts: 1,367	Good question. Tough call. Personally, I look for combat effectiveness, which to me is a combination of size, functionality, how it feels, accuracy, and firepower (type of round and number of rounds). 1. Beretta 92. 2. Glock 17/19. 3. Sig 225/226/228/229. 4. Walther P99. 5. HK USP. Runners up would be the Sig 210, the S&W 5906, and the HK P7. I say runners up not to imply that they are inferior, but only to say that they're not as combat worthy IMHO.

May 28, 2000, 12:01 PM	#14
BrokenArrow Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 1998 Posts: 966	Good post Tamara! My favorites are (in no particualr order): Beretta Browning CZ HK SIG I also think the Glocks, Ruger, Walther, Syeyr, Taurus and S&W are excellent. The Star is very good too. Any quality clones of the above. ------------------ >>>>----> [This message has been edited by BrokenArrow (edited May 28, 2000).]

May 28, 2000, 01:07 PM	#15
PeterGunn Senior Member Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 738	1. Sig "P" Series Pistols (no explination needed) 2. Beretta 92 Series (very reliable, but a little big in the hand for me) 3. Browning Hi-Power (handsome and very comfortable) 4. Kahr K9 (best ballance of size, weight, and capacity) 5. S&W 3rd. Generation (Pre-sellout ONLY) If I had more choices, HK and Glock might have made the list. It isn't that I hate HK, I just hate the sharp checking on the front of the grip of hte HK. It really chews up on the hand, and is probably unnecessary for a 9mm. The Glock is undoubtably one of the finest designs ever manufactured, but for me the grip angle is way to severe. It feels as though my hand is contorting to a weird position just to aim. Lots of very fine 9mm available, I guess I am just a little picky. Just because a particular gun didn't make my list doesn't mean I think it's a bad gun, it just means it hasen't worked for me. ------------------ "By His stripes we are healed..." PeterGunn

May 28, 2000, 01:19 PM	#16
Jeff OTMG Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: OKC, OK & Austin, Tx Posts: 3,707	SIG P210 BHP SIG P DA series (225, 220, 226, 228) Kahr MK9 Oh no! I only have one spot left for CZ, Steyr GB, H&K P9S Competition, Glock 19, and S&W 940.

May 28, 2000, 02:51 PM	#17
Dave Finfrock Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 1999 Posts: 210	1. P7 2. P7M8 3. P7M13 4. SIG P210 5. Browning Hi-Power

May 28, 2000, 02:57 PM	#18
Christopher Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 1999 Location: Joliet, Il. Posts: 176	1. HK P7 2. SIG 228 3. BHP 4. G17 5. CZ75

May 28, 2000, 03:21 PM	#19
old hawk Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2000 Location: somewhere,maine. Posts: 175	hi power po8 luger p38 walther s=w 659 cz52 with 9mm nato barrel

May 28, 2000, 03:29 PM	#20
denfoote Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 1999 Location: Buckeye Arizona Posts: 5,526	Here's my list. Glock 19 Ruger P95 Walther P38 P08 Luger Browning Hi Power ------------------ BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!! Defend the Constitution from the foreign threat!!!!

May 28, 2000, 04:02 PM	#21
Russell92 Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2000 Posts: 646	somewhat in order: 1. Glock 17/19 2. Beretta 92FS 3. Sig Sauer 226/228 4. HK P7 5. HK USP there are probably more i forgot to mention also that i like a lot.

May 28, 2000, 05:54 PM	#22
Archie Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2000 Location: Hastings, Nebrasksa - the Hear Posts: 2,209	I would add the Star BKM. The only factory pocket pistol in 9x19. Therefore, to me, the most useful 9x19. ------------------ Archie

May 28, 2000, 06:23 PM	#23
Ruben Nasser Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2000 Location: Asuncion, Paraguay Posts: 280	Somewhat in order: 1. Glock 19/17 2. Sig 228/226 3. CZ 75 4. Beretta 92 5. Browning HP Runners up: 6. Sig 210 7. HK P7M8 8. Walther P99 9. HK USP 10. Walther P88 S&W? They are good, but I've never liked their pistols, and certainly not 9mm Rugers!!

May 28, 2000, 07:35 PM	#24
Gremlin Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 1999 Location: Just left of center Posts: 544	Limiting my selections to guns that I have actually shot: 1) CZ75 2) Browning Hi Power 3) Sig 228 4) Ruger P Series 5) Walther P88 6) Astra A100

May 28, 2000, 08:35 PM	#25
The Silver Bullet 1719 Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 1999 Location: Southern Pines, NC Posts: 227	1.Glock 17 2.Glock 19 3.Browning Hi-Power 4.Sig P-228 5.CZ-75 ------------------ AK-47, When you absolutely have to kill every mother&%$#er in the room...accept no substitutes.