zigana pistol?

Windlord0 · June 26, 2005, 04:10 AM

Well I was just browsing around and I came across a Zigana pistol. I found it here:
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg161-e.htm

I thought the T model looked like one attractive piece, but I couldn't find any other info on them, or at least nothing in english. Can someone here inform me about this gun. Thanks in advance.

Sturmgewehr-58 · June 26, 2005, 04:49 PM

Well, your link provides pretty much all of the information you need : "These pistols are in limited use by several security companies in Turkey, as well as by some Turkish military units."

In english, that means: "Good luck ever finding one."

max popenker · June 27, 2005, 03:00 AM

Well, as far as i know there are few importers that bring the Turkish long guns into USA.
At least, stoeger does import their Model 2000 semi-auto shotgun from there; so why not to ask them (or someone else who already deals with Turks) to import these pistols? I believe these won'be too expensive, and assuming from quality of their long guns (i own a Stoeger 2000 shottie myself

) these must be not too bad at all.

Davis · June 27, 2005, 08:15 AM

Interorinance is importing the Sarlsilmaz-Tanfoglio CZ-75 copies.

Davis

1SOW · December 11, 2007, 09:04 PM

http://www.trabzonsilah.com/english/...ort_siyahbeyaz
I think this is the site where you can get info. Theres a pdf file that takes you from manufacture, testing and refences.
I found a Turkish site that listed all of them less than $300 U.S. The 45 is listed stateside at $399 on line.
The T model and the Sport the same but the Sport has the slots (that will be tough to clean), and I believe its DA.
I REALLY like the looks of "New" Semi-Auto F model If you find a price or stateside site let us know.

Adrian · December 11, 2007, 09:23 PM

I believe someone affiliated with Zigana posted a contact address for questions about US imports in an earlier thread.

You may want to check it out.

INGunGuy · February 12, 2009, 12:37 AM

Well, I just purchased a Zigana K 9mm pistol today. I really like it. it is imported by PW Arms in Redmond, WA I thought the $289 pricetag was a good value.

INGunGuy

LUPUS · February 12, 2009, 05:25 AM

The Zigana pistols are based on the mechanics of the venerable Walther P88 C pistol. Their full size models are a little bit bulky for daily carry or use, but they are pretty robust, reliable and accurate pistols especially for the range use, with considerable level of workmanship, fit and finish for the price. The triggers may be a little gritty at the beginning, but just plain shooting them is the best trigger job for them.

INGunGuy · February 13, 2009, 12:18 AM

I have not had an opportunity to fire it yet, but I will on Saturday and report back on how it shoots.

INGunGuy

sawrecker · February 13, 2009, 06:41 AM

looks like a well built pistol, I would like to hear your review after the range.

INGunGuy · February 17, 2009, 10:21 AM

Went to the range on Sunday, fired my new Zigana. I have to tell you this, it is a really nice gun. The gun performed flawlessly. I was shooting targets at 15 and 25 yards and I was able to shoot 3" groups. For shooting steel, it was even better. I enjoyed firing the gun, and really look forward to shooting it again.

INGunGuy

INGunGuy · March 12, 2009, 10:19 AM

I have had the pistol out to the range and put about 1000 rounds thru it. I have to say that it is one of the nicer 9mm pistols I have fired. Shooting steel is GREAT. I love the fit and finish. I enjoy how it feels in my hand, and shoots dead on. The only problem I am having is to find some spare mags for it.

INGunGuy

joegator · March 12, 2009, 08:35 PM

I was at a local dealer today and they had the K model on the shelf. It felt good and appeared to have a good fit and finish for the money. The guy at the shop gave one a range session and gave it a very favorable review. If you can get one for $300 it would be worth taking a chance on. The one I saw was around $400 which exceeds my what have I got to loose price range.

It will be interesting to see if these things catch on. Parts, mags, and customer service are still an unknown factor at this point.

PSP · March 12, 2009, 09:10 PM

There is a local gun show this weekend and this is one of the guns I want to fondle and inspect. All of the reports I've read have indicated these are well made. If the price is right I may take a chance.

Sgt Pepper · March 12, 2009, 10:26 PM

Not to hijack the thread, but look....ist der WaltherGlock!

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg219-e.htm

LUPUS · March 13, 2009, 10:32 AM

CD plans to imported those pistols to US.

http://www.charlesdalyforum.com/showthread.php?t=980

They are a little bit different then the Glock and the P99. The frame rails are not molded in to the frame. The rails are the part of the front locking block and the rear sear housing. The firing mechanism resembles the Glock's Safe Action, but the trigger bar does not work as a sear at the same time and the pistol has a seperate sear as the XDs. Take down lever resembles the P99, but the locking piece is exactly the same as the Glock. As I know the magazines are not interchangeable with the Glock mags nor the P99 mags. CD claims that the sights will be Novak style in the near future.

Sgt Pepper · March 14, 2009, 02:45 PM

I wasn't really talking about composition or mechanics, but commenting more on the look of the gun. Thanks for the info, though. Pretty interesting stuff.

StephenT · March 25, 2009, 09:47 PM

INGunGuy,

I'm intrigued by this gun and am tempted to get one. A few guys on gunbroker are selling them for $350-400. Where you were able to find one for $289? Do any of the large wholesalers (Aim, SOG, CDNN) carry them?

kaejr · April 3, 2009, 09:58 AM

I bought one of these pistols this past weekend at a gun show that came to town and I absolutely love it. I went looking for a 24/7 or possibly a glock 21 but when I came across this gun I found myself stuck on it right off the bat. The gun feels very solid in your hand and the sights line up very well. The seller had the firearm lying beside a P95 Ruger and I noticed the resemblances of the two right off the bat from the mags, down to the decocker feature that this weapon uses, with the external hammer.
I am on the way to the range now and I can't wait to fire this weapon, I would definitely recommend that anyone that is curious about purchasing one should go ahead and pull the trigger on the deal, I doubt that you will be disappointed. I paid $349 (plus tax, and processing) for the weapon brand new in box with 2-15 round mags. That was the average price that I have found, there were about 4 wholesalers there and they all ranged from $349-to $389. I was told that the firearms are being imported by different people because one place would have the pistol coming in a cardboard box and others were coming in plastic carrying cases. Mine does have the Redford,Wa stamp that the other guys are referring to so Im guessing that they are the main importer and the other guys are buying from that company. The only downfall that I see so far is the fact that I have not been able to find extra magazines, so the 2 that come with the weapon will have to suffice until extra mags become available.

Shadi Khalil · April 3, 2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Well, your link provides pretty much all of the information you need : "These pistols are in limited use by several security companies in Turkey, as well as by some Turkish military units."

In english, that means: "Good luck ever finding one."

They are more available than you think. We used to get a guy from Zigana posting on here...

RDak · April 7, 2009, 08:02 AM

They look like pretty well built guns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slLtsFAdLCw

cobragirl · September 4, 2009, 09:43 PM

I've been looking at these guns for MONTHS now and have pretty much finally decided to buy one after a whole lot of research. Does ANYONE know where I can get one? I'm specifically looking for the Zigana SPORT with the comfy rubber looking grips (seen in the pics above). Silver or black, doesn't matter, I'm just trying to FIND one that's actually for sale. I've seen the ones on gunbroker being sold by ATI (they call it a CS9) but it's not the same as the black gun pictured above. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

bdb benzino · September 5, 2009, 12:45 AM

I had an American Tactical Imports HP9 about six months ago. It was accurate and reliable, in the 350 rounds I put in it there were 0 malfunctions of any kind. Although I had a trigger problem and had to send it to ATI. The whole trip only took 10 days and they gave me mag's and a t-shirt and a hat, top notch service hand down!!
In the end I just didnt like and could not get over the trigger. Too bad cause it had alot of potential. I might consider another one if the trigger was better and it was inexpensive.

cobragirl · September 5, 2009, 08:52 AM

Yeah I saw one of those on gunbroker recently, glad you liked it for the most part. Generally speaking, all I've read on these guns is positive. I just haven't been able to find the specific one LUPUS posted pictures of in this thread earlier this year (it's the Zigana SPORT, 6 ports on each side, rubber grips)... is he in the states? Also if you guys can think of anywhere I could try looking, etc. please let me know! Thanks!!!

bdb benzino · September 5, 2009, 03:54 PM

I know of a store in OR that had the ported model, if you like I could call and see if it still there. If you were to get it you would have to hassel with shipping though.

June 26, 2005, 04:10 AM	#1
Windlord0 Junior Member Join Date: November 15, 2004 Posts: 5	zigana pistol? Well I was just browsing around and I came across a Zigana pistol. I found it here: http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg161-e.htm I thought the T model looked like one attractive piece, but I couldn't find any other info on them, or at least nothing in english. Can someone here inform me about this gun. Thanks in advance.

June 27, 2005, 03:00 AM	#3
max popenker Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2002 Posts: 130	Well, as far as i know there are few importers that bring the Turkish long guns into USA. At least, stoeger does import their Model 2000 semi-auto shotgun from there; so why not to ask them (or someone else who already deals with Turks) to import these pistols? I believe these won'be too expensive, and assuming from quality of their long guns (i own a Stoeger 2000 shottie myself ) these must be not too bad at all. __________________ Signed: Maxim Popenker Modern Firearms website

December 11, 2007, 09:04 PM	#5
1SOW Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: South TX Posts: 269	Tisas Zigana F, T, K, C45 http://www.trabzonsilah.com/english/...ort_siyahbeyaz I think this is the site where you can get info. Theres a pdf file that takes you from manufacture, testing and refences. I found a Turkish site that listed all of them less than $300 U.S. The 45 is listed stateside at $399 on line. The T model and the Sport the same but the Sport has the slots (that will be tough to clean), and I believe its DA. I REALLY like the looks of "New" Semi-Auto F model If you find a price or stateside site let us know.

February 12, 2009, 12:37 AM	#7
INGunGuy Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2008 Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana Posts: 142	WOW talk about bringing back an old thread Well, I just purchased a Zigana K 9mm pistol today. I really like it. it is imported by PW Arms in Redmond, WA I thought the $289 pricetag was a good value. INGunGuy __________________ Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government.

February 12, 2009, 05:25 AM	#8
LUPUS Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 463	The Zigana pistols are based on the mechanics of the venerable Walther P88 C pistol. Their full size models are a little bit bulky for daily carry or use, but they are pretty robust, reliable and accurate pistols especially for the range use, with considerable level of workmanship, fit and finish for the price. The triggers may be a little gritty at the beginning, but just plain shooting them is the best trigger job for them. Last edited by LUPUS; February 12, 2009 at 05:31 AM.

June 26, 2005, 04:49 PM	#2
Sturmgewehr-58 Member Join Date: June 19, 2004 Posts: 40	Well, your link provides pretty much all of the information you need : "These pistols are in limited use by several security companies in Turkey, as well as by some Turkish military units." In english, that means: "Good luck ever finding one."

June 27, 2005, 08:15 AM	#4
Davis Junior member Join Date: January 8, 2002 Posts: 675	Interorinance is importing the Sarlsilmaz-Tanfoglio CZ-75 copies. Davis

December 11, 2007, 09:23 PM	#6
Adrian Senior Member Join Date: November 7, 2007 Location: Free of California! Posts: 274	I believe someone affiliated with Zigana posted a contact address for questions about US imports in an earlier thread. You may want to check it out.

February 13, 2009, 12:18 AM	#9
INGunGuy Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2008 Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana Posts: 142	I have not had an opportunity to fire it yet, but I will on Saturday and report back on how it shoots. INGunGuy __________________ Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government.

February 13, 2009, 06:41 AM	#10
sawrecker Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2008 Posts: 192	looks like a well built pistol, I would like to hear your review after the range. __________________ I read about some squirrely guy, Who claims, he just don't believe in fightin'. An' I wonder just how long, The rest of us can count on bein' free."Merle Hagard"

February 17, 2009, 10:21 AM	#11
INGunGuy Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2008 Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana Posts: 142	Went to the range on Sunday, fired my new Zigana. I have to tell you this, it is a really nice gun. The gun performed flawlessly. I was shooting targets at 15 and 25 yards and I was able to shoot 3" groups. For shooting steel, it was even better. I enjoyed firing the gun, and really look forward to shooting it again. INGunGuy __________________ Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government.

March 12, 2009, 10:19 AM	#12
INGunGuy Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2008 Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana Posts: 142	I have had the pistol out to the range and put about 1000 rounds thru it. I have to say that it is one of the nicer 9mm pistols I have fired. Shooting steel is GREAT. I love the fit and finish. I enjoy how it feels in my hand, and shoots dead on. The only problem I am having is to find some spare mags for it. INGunGuy __________________ Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government.

March 12, 2009, 08:35 PM	#13
joegator Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 537	I was at a local dealer today and they had the K model on the shelf. It felt good and appeared to have a good fit and finish for the money. The guy at the shop gave one a range session and gave it a very favorable review. If you can get one for $300 it would be worth taking a chance on. The one I saw was around $400 which exceeds my what have I got to loose price range. It will be interesting to see if these things catch on. Parts, mags, and customer service are still an unknown factor at this point.

March 12, 2009, 09:10 PM	#14
PSP Senior Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Location: Bowling Green Virginia Posts: 4,487	There is a local gun show this weekend and this is one of the guns I want to fondle and inspect. All of the reports I've read have indicated these are well made. If the price is right I may take a chance.

March 12, 2009, 10:26 PM	#15
Sgt Pepper Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 811	Not to hijack the thread, but look....ist der WaltherGlock! http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg219-e.htm

March 13, 2009, 10:32 AM	#16
LUPUS Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 463	CD plans to imported those pistols to US. http://www.charlesdalyforum.com/showthread.php?t=980 They are a little bit different then the Glock and the P99. The frame rails are not molded in to the frame. The rails are the part of the front locking block and the rear sear housing. The firing mechanism resembles the Glock's Safe Action, but the trigger bar does not work as a sear at the same time and the pistol has a seperate sear as the XDs. Take down lever resembles the P99, but the locking piece is exactly the same as the Glock. As I know the magazines are not interchangeable with the Glock mags nor the P99 mags. CD claims that the sights will be Novak style in the near future. Last edited by LUPUS; March 14, 2009 at 07:13 PM.

March 14, 2009, 02:45 PM	#17
Sgt Pepper Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 811	I wasn't really talking about composition or mechanics, but commenting more on the look of the gun. Thanks for the info, though. Pretty interesting stuff.

March 25, 2009, 09:47 PM	#18
StephenT Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 1999 Location: Houston TX Posts: 337	INGunGuy, I'm intrigued by this gun and am tempted to get one. A few guys on gunbroker are selling them for $350-400. Where you were able to find one for $289? Do any of the large wholesalers (Aim, SOG, CDNN) carry them?

April 3, 2009, 09:58 AM	#19
kaejr Junior Member Join Date: April 3, 2009 Location: Richmond,Va Posts: 1	I bought one of these pistols this past weekend at a gun show that came to town and I absolutely love it. I went looking for a 24/7 or possibly a glock 21 but when I came across this gun I found myself stuck on it right off the bat. The gun feels very solid in your hand and the sights line up very well. The seller had the firearm lying beside a P95 Ruger and I noticed the resemblances of the two right off the bat from the mags, down to the decocker feature that this weapon uses, with the external hammer. I am on the way to the range now and I can't wait to fire this weapon, I would definitely recommend that anyone that is curious about purchasing one should go ahead and pull the trigger on the deal, I doubt that you will be disappointed. I paid $349 (plus tax, and processing) for the weapon brand new in box with 2-15 round mags. That was the average price that I have found, there were about 4 wholesalers there and they all ranged from $349-to $389. I was told that the firearms are being imported by different people because one place would have the pistol coming in a cardboard box and others were coming in plastic carrying cases. Mine does have the Redford,Wa stamp that the other guys are referring to so Im guessing that they are the main importer and the other guys are buying from that company. The only downfall that I see so far is the fact that I have not been able to find extra magazines, so the 2 that come with the weapon will have to suffice until extra mags become available.

April 7, 2009, 08:02 AM	#21
RDak Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 734	They look like pretty well built guns: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slLtsFAdLCw

September 4, 2009, 09:43 PM	#22
cobragirl Junior Member Join Date: September 4, 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3	I've been looking at these guns for MONTHS now and have pretty much finally decided to buy one after a whole lot of research. Does ANYONE know where I can get one? I'm specifically looking for the Zigana SPORT with the comfy rubber looking grips (seen in the pics above). Silver or black, doesn't matter, I'm just trying to FIND one that's actually for sale. I've seen the ones on gunbroker being sold by ATI (they call it a CS9) but it's not the same as the black gun pictured above. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

September 5, 2009, 12:45 AM	#23
bdb benzino Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2009 Location: Willamette valley,OR Posts: 665	I had an American Tactical Imports HP9 about six months ago. It was accurate and reliable, in the 350 rounds I put in it there were 0 malfunctions of any kind. Although I had a trigger problem and had to send it to ATI. The whole trip only took 10 days and they gave me mag's and a t-shirt and a hat, top notch service hand down!! In the end I just didnt like and could not get over the trigger. Too bad cause it had alot of potential. I might consider another one if the trigger was better and it was inexpensive. __________________ good and safe shooting, bdb. BETTER TO BE CAUGHT WITH ONE, THAN WITH OUT ONE

September 5, 2009, 08:52 AM	#24
cobragirl Junior Member Join Date: September 4, 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3	Yeah I saw one of those on gunbroker recently, glad you liked it for the most part. Generally speaking, all I've read on these guns is positive. I just haven't been able to find the specific one LUPUS posted pictures of in this thread earlier this year (it's the Zigana SPORT, 6 ports on each side, rubber grips)... is he in the states? Also if you guys can think of anywhere I could try looking, etc. please let me know! Thanks!!!

September 5, 2009, 03:54 PM	#25
bdb benzino Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2009 Location: Willamette valley,OR Posts: 665	I know of a store in OR that had the ported model, if you like I could call and see if it still there. If you were to get it you would have to hassel with shipping though. __________________ good and safe shooting, bdb. BETTER TO BE CAUGHT WITH ONE, THAN WITH OUT ONE