Anyone else have occasional misfiring problems with Magtech ammo?

Doug.38PR · March 3, 2007, 11:18 PM

A week ago I was shooting my Official Police with above said ammo brand and one out of ever 15-30 shots out of a box of 50 seems to misfire. The firing pin isn't able to dent the primer enough to discharge the cartridge. At first I thought this was a problem with the gun, BUT it did on my Detective Special gun of the same caliber which was set to factory specifications earlier this evening.

Anyone else have problems with Magtech. Is the brass on their primers a little too strong in some cases?

**JohnKSa** · March 4, 2007, 12:14 AM

Light strikes are almost invariably indicative of a gun problem, not an ammo problem.

Jamie Young · March 4, 2007, 12:24 AM

I had 1 problem with magtech ammo in my Beretta 92FS, but I've shot thousands of rounds and never had problems. The round that didn't fire showed light strikes on the primer, but would just never go off.

DeltaWhiskey · March 4, 2007, 07:57 AM

Im using a case of their primers right now and have experienced some misfires with rounds I've loaded with them. I can't really tell if its a case of hard primers or light strikes, though.

yomama · March 4, 2007, 10:24 AM

Never had a problem. I find it to be much better than Winchester white box.

D-Ric902 · March 4, 2007, 11:09 AM

I have had problems with Magtech ammo misfiring. I've even sent some back to them and recieved replacement boxes. Interestingly only in revolver calibers, I shoot 45 ACP all day with no problems but the 357 and 38's misfired three or four times a box. I tried them in an SP101 and Det Special and a S&W 627 and had problems.
It's good to know I'm not the only one.

Prolanman · March 4, 2007, 12:15 PM

Only shot it in .45ACP, no problems with it.

hj28rules · March 5, 2007, 08:21 AM

Not yet. I have shot this brand through my CZ83, CZ75B , P95 and Para-Tac 4 with out problems. Monarch is the brand (Academy Sporting Goods) you need to watch our for IMHO.

Tokamak · March 5, 2007, 06:18 PM

I do not shoot a lot of it, but I have never had a problem with it.

I usually wind up with Remmington.

Tony C · March 6, 2007, 06:55 AM

The indoor range that I shoot at in the winter requires that we purchase the ammo from them and they sell magtech. I have put about 300 .40S&W and 150 .45ACP without a single problem. Seems to be pretty aconsistent product. Tony.

Jkwas · April 6, 2007, 09:01 AM

I know this thread is old, but I had to respond. Went shooting wednesday and shot 50rnds of Georgia Arms LSWC 38spl with no problems. Shot 1 box of Magtech 38spl LRN and had about 5 misfires. Good dimples, no fire. Sent some around for a second hit and they went off. I don't know if my gun is picky or not, but in my mind if it dimples the same as the ones that fired, it should have gone off. The guy at the range said they had also been seeing some bad batches of this stuff as well, so "Heads-up"

Effy · April 6, 2007, 01:10 PM

I regularly have problems with .357 and .38 special Magtec target ammo with my 686+ 4 inch. I have had no problems with other types of ammo. The pin dents the primer, but no bang. Some fellas were shooting a 686 6 inch next to me one day and had the same problems with the Magtec .357 ammo they were using. I get about 3-5 duds per box, thus I quit using it. I use American Eagle with no complaints.

I thought it was the gun, but after seeing others have the same problem with the same ammo, I know it's the primer. BTW my 686+ was bought new in August and has just under 2000 rounds through it--mostly .38 special ammo.

Hope this helps.

Ciao,
Effy

P.S. I've had no problems with Magtec 9mm ammo in my M&P9 Full size.

gunovice · April 6, 2007, 02:13 PM

I also had primer "problems" with my 686. Turned out that my main spring needed to be tightened up. See of that solves the problem for you. My 686 was also essentially new at the time. I suspect that S&W is not firmly seating these springs at the factory and they start loosening up with use.

BTW, I think that Magtech primers are "harder" than most others, which makes light primer strikes more apparent.

3 gun · April 6, 2007, 02:48 PM

I've had trouble with 38 and 357. Never had a problem with 9, 45, 44, 30carbine or 40. It's only been a problem in DA. Every round went off with a second hit in SA. Has happened in my 586, 686 and 605. I'll say, at least for me, it is not a pistol problem. MagTech primers just seem to be on the hard side in the 38/357 loads.

MD_Willington · April 6, 2007, 03:33 PM

Sorry can't say I've had any problems with it, 150 rounds of it all worked in my S&W 5906.

Jkwas · April 6, 2007, 05:04 PM

I've not had problems with the 9mm either, just the 38rln.

March 3, 2007, 11:18 PM	#1
Doug.38PR Junior member Join Date: January 18, 2005 Posts: 3,298	Anyone else have occasional misfiring problems with Magtech ammo? A week ago I was shooting my Official Police with above said ammo brand and one out of ever 15-30 shots out of a box of 50 seems to misfire. The firing pin isn't able to dent the primer enough to discharge the cartridge. At first I thought this was a problem with the gun, BUT it did on my Detective Special gun of the same caliber which was set to factory specifications earlier this evening. Anyone else have problems with Magtech. Is the brass on their primers a little too strong in some cases?

March 4, 2007, 12:14 AM	#2
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,994	Light strikes are almost invariably indicative of a gun problem, not an ammo problem. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

March 4, 2007, 12:24 AM	#3
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	I had 1 problem with magtech ammo in my Beretta 92FS, but I've shot thousands of rounds and never had problems. The round that didn't fire showed light strikes on the primer, but would just never go off. __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

March 4, 2007, 07:57 AM	#4
DeltaWhiskey Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2005 Posts: 226	Im using a case of their primers right now and have experienced some misfires with rounds I've loaded with them. I can't really tell if its a case of hard primers or light strikes, though. __________________ "I'm DeltaWhiskey on the other forums, too."

March 4, 2007, 11:09 AM	#6
D-Ric902 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2004 Location: Northeastern Indiana Posts: 402	I have had problems with Magtech ammo misfiring. I've even sent some back to them and recieved replacement boxes. Interestingly only in revolver calibers, I shoot 45 ACP all day with no problems but the 357 and 38's misfired three or four times a box. I tried them in an SP101 and Det Special and a S&W 627 and had problems. It's good to know I'm not the only one. __________________ mercysdad.com

March 4, 2007, 10:24 AM	#5
yomama Junior member Join Date: February 28, 2006 Posts: 509	Never had a problem. I find it to be much better than Winchester white box.

March 4, 2007, 12:15 PM	#7
Prolanman Member Join Date: October 14, 2006 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 64	Only shot it in .45ACP, no problems with it. __________________ Sig P226R-Navy, Sig P229 Nitron 9mm, S&W Model 520-HIVIZ .357, Ruger Security Six

March 5, 2007, 08:21 AM	#8
hj28rules Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Location: Texas Cross Timbers Posts: 278	Not yet. I have shot this brand through my CZ83, CZ75B , P95 and Para-Tac 4 with out problems. Monarch is the brand (Academy Sporting Goods) you need to watch our for IMHO.

March 5, 2007, 06:18 PM	#9
Tokamak Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2006 Posts: 265	Magtech I do not shoot a lot of it, but I have never had a problem with it. I usually wind up with Remmington.

March 6, 2007, 06:55 AM	#10
Tony C Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 293	The indoor range that I shoot at in the winter requires that we purchase the ammo from them and they sell magtech. I have put about 300 .40S&W and 150 .45ACP without a single problem. Seems to be pretty aconsistent product. Tony.

April 6, 2007, 09:01 AM	#11
Jkwas Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Mouth of the Rat, Florida Posts: 1,778	I know this thread is old, but I had to respond. Went shooting wednesday and shot 50rnds of Georgia Arms LSWC 38spl with no problems. Shot 1 box of Magtech 38spl LRN and had about 5 misfires. Good dimples, no fire. Sent some around for a second hit and they went off. I don't know if my gun is picky or not, but in my mind if it dimples the same as the ones that fired, it should have gone off. The guy at the range said they had also been seeing some bad batches of this stuff as well, so "Heads-up" __________________ I grew up in New Jersey, but later moved to Florida and made a complete recovery. Keltec: The BIC lighter of handguns http://jkwasblog.blogspot.com/

April 6, 2007, 01:10 PM	#12
Effy Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 39	I regularly have problems with .357 and .38 special Magtec target ammo with my 686+ 4 inch. I have had no problems with other types of ammo. The pin dents the primer, but no bang. Some fellas were shooting a 686 6 inch next to me one day and had the same problems with the Magtec .357 ammo they were using. I get about 3-5 duds per box, thus I quit using it. I use American Eagle with no complaints. I thought it was the gun, but after seeing others have the same problem with the same ammo, I know it's the primer. BTW my 686+ was bought new in August and has just under 2000 rounds through it--mostly .38 special ammo. Hope this helps. Ciao, Effy P.S. I've had no problems with Magtec 9mm ammo in my M&P9 Full size.

April 6, 2007, 02:13 PM	#13
gunovice Member Join Date: May 26, 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 34	Not Really Primer Problems I also had primer "problems" with my 686. Turned out that my main spring needed to be tightened up. See of that solves the problem for you. My 686 was also essentially new at the time. I suspect that S&W is not firmly seating these springs at the factory and they start loosening up with use. BTW, I think that Magtech primers are "harder" than most others, which makes light primer strikes more apparent.

April 6, 2007, 02:48 PM	#14
3 gun Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: N41 24.283 W81 43.370 N.E.Ohio Posts: 561	I've had trouble with 38 and 357. Never had a problem with 9, 45, 44, 30carbine or 40. It's only been a problem in DA. Every round went off with a second hit in SA. Has happened in my 586, 686 and 605. I'll say, at least for me, it is not a pistol problem. MagTech primers just seem to be on the hard side in the 38/357 loads. __________________ Change you can believe in... Pre-65 US silver coins NRA RSO & Certified Instructor in rifle, pistol, shotgun. An unloaded pistol is a paperweight. Opportunity knocks..Trouble kicks down the door.

April 6, 2007, 03:33 PM	#15
MD_Willington Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2005 Location: SE WA State. Posts: 563	JHP 9x19mm Sorry can't say I've had any problems with it, 150 rounds of it all worked in my S&W 5906.

April 6, 2007, 05:04 PM	#16
Jkwas Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Mouth of the Rat, Florida Posts: 1,778	I've not had problems with the 9mm either, just the 38rln. __________________ I grew up in New Jersey, but later moved to Florida and made a complete recovery. Keltec: The BIC lighter of handguns http://jkwasblog.blogspot.com/