308 semi auto rifle poll

stellite · December 22, 2009, 01:39 PM

Ok, if you have to buy only one, which one would it be.
Choose the best of each for your pick. So with the FAL say a DSA. Same goes with M14's, HK-91's, AR-10's, whatever is in your mind the best of each is what I am looking to compare to, so pick that in your mind. Cost is no option, just the gun itelf
FN-FAL/DSASA58 etc
HK-91/SAR3/8 etc.
M14/M1A etc.
AR-10/SR-25 etc.
VEPR/Russian 308's.

RangerHAAF · December 22, 2009, 04:19 PM

For long range shooting using a 308 rifle I prefer the new FN-AR. I have previously owned both the DSA-SA58 and an AR-10. The SA58 was not accurate and the AR-10 uses the gas impingement system that I don't like. So far the FNAR is the best shooting of all of the newer model "black" rifles on the market(IMO), even Winchester is coming out with one that's an exact copy of it; it's called the SX-AR.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...terfire-rifle/

Brenten · December 22, 2009, 04:33 PM

POF's 308 AR based rifles are piston not DI and shoot sub moa. The new LWRC REPR is as well. as is the Knight Arms SR-25. So there are many options. The FNAR looks like it is extremely accurate, however. I have seen M1A's with NM parts and good stocks shoot sub moa. But accuracy is not the only thing here. I have not voted yet, but I noticed that one of the least accurate rifles is getting the most votes...lol. The FAL, why? simple, it is rugged and well designed, reliable and very ergonomic. It's not always about accuracy.

scorpiusdeus · December 22, 2009, 04:57 PM

All depends on what we're using them for. Over all I like the M1A and HK 91.

SR420 · December 22, 2009, 05:07 PM

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Brenten POF's 308 AR based rifles are piston not DI and shoot sub moa. The new LWRC REPR is as well. as is the Knight Arms SR-25.

Are you saying the KAC SR-25 uses a piston?

Brenten · December 22, 2009, 05:20 PM

my bad. I thought I had heard that KA was making piston uppers for their guns now. I guess it is just a rumor. But I could swear I read that somewhere. I guess that leaves LWRC and POF.

Brenten · December 22, 2009, 05:23 PM

curious as to what bullpup design was voted on?

RT · December 22, 2009, 07:51 PM

Well, If you are gonna buy it I would say a LRB or Smith enterprises M14.

qwman68 · December 23, 2009, 12:17 AM

+1 on the FNAR..

jgcoastie · December 23, 2009, 01:22 AM

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So far the FNAR is the best shooting of all of the newer model "black" rifles on the market(IMO), even Winchester is coming out with one that's an exact copy of it; it's called the SX-AR.

You mean FN is stamping Winchester on the side of FNAR's? Both use the Browning BAR Short-Trac receiver. Both Browning and Winchester are owned by FN...

The only thing that FN messed up on is developing a proprietary magazine instead of using an existing mag such as the AR-10 type magazine.

smee78 · December 23, 2009, 07:35 AM

+1 for scorpiusdeus

All depends on what we're using them for. Over all I like the M1A.

Brenten · December 23, 2009, 07:36 AM

yup, but if you look at it as a cost basis, you can get an FN fairly cheap, about 1300-1400, plus 6 mags put you at 1800 or so. not to bad. The bigger issue is spare parts and future spare mags. In this climate of possibly banning of assault weapons, this could be a factor.

I am not surprised at the early outcome of this poll. SA M1A owners outnumber all others when it comes to 308's. AR's are close and HK's due to the PTR's are not far behind. What does surprise me is the FAL. You hardly ever see them at the range, yet they are in 2nd place. Where are all those closet FAL owners

Great rifle obviously.

Firepower! · December 23, 2009, 10:06 AM

HK91 no question about it.

SR420 · December 23, 2009, 10:12 AM

If you can buy only one make sure it's an M14/M1A.

Stumper · December 23, 2009, 10:18 AM

I voted for the Vepr since it is the .308 semi auto that excited me into a purchase. The Vepr is , at least to my eyes, a beautiful "battle rifle" (of course it is really a Kalashnikov based sporting rifle). From a practical standpoint the AR10 based rifles are probably superior in accuracy and the Hk 91 mags are now dirt cheap so one of those makes good sense......but I still love the Vepr.

svaz · December 23, 2009, 10:59 AM

I voted for the Dragunov. Simply put, it is, to me, the most visually appealing and is more accurate than I am.

Naturally, I'd prefer it in x54R (if I could pick up a couple of crates of 7N1 or 7N14, I'd be all set), but I'd be ok w/ a x51 version too (or BOTH!)

stubbicatt · December 23, 2009, 01:55 PM

I like nearly all of these rifles. Just that these days I really like the PTR91. so many cool accessories available for them, and they shoot as good as the others. Very reliable rifle too.

LordofWar · December 23, 2009, 02:26 PM

FYI, Dragunov SVD is 7.62x54R & not .308 aka 7.62x51mm NATO.

MHbushmaster · December 23, 2009, 03:09 PM

FAL: The right arm of the free world.

Drummer101 · December 23, 2009, 03:52 PM

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FYI, Dragunov SVD is 7.62x54R & not .308 aka 7.62x51mm NATO.

you beat me to it

But it does have about the same effect

MHbushmaster · December 23, 2009, 04:00 PM

There are some SVD Drag's that are in .308Winchester here in the USA.

But yes, most are chambered in 7.62x54R

LukeA · December 23, 2009, 09:18 PM

Can't pick between FAL and M-14.

Palmetto-Pride · December 23, 2009, 09:28 PM

The FN SCAR would be my pick.

Brenten · December 23, 2009, 09:53 PM

M14/M1A for me, as I have owned nearly as many as I have digits.

NWCP · December 23, 2009, 10:14 PM

Why only own one. I'd be hard pressed to give up either my HK91, or CZ SA VZ58. Both are great rifles.

View Poll Results: pick your favorite style
FN-FAL/SA58 series	46	22.22%
AR10/SR-25/REPR series	39	18.84%
HK-91/SAR3/8/ PTR91 series	26	12.56%
M14/M1A series	75	36.23%
Russian VEPR/Dragunov series	9	4.35%
Bull pup style	4	1.93%
everything else not listed	8	3.86%
Voters: 207. You may not vote on this poll

December 22, 2009, 01:39 PM	#1
stellite Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2009 Location: all over Posts: 153	308 semi auto rifle poll Ok, if you have to buy only one, which one would it be. Choose the best of each for your pick. So with the FAL say a DSA. Same goes with M14's, HK-91's, AR-10's, whatever is in your mind the best of each is what I am looking to compare to, so pick that in your mind. Cost is no option, just the gun itelf FN-FAL/DSASA58 etc HK-91/SAR3/8 etc. M14/M1A etc. AR-10/SR-25 etc. VEPR/Russian 308's.

December 23, 2009, 07:35 AM	#11
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	+1 for scorpiusdeus All depends on what we're using them for. Over all I like the M1A. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

December 23, 2009, 10:12 AM	#14
SR420 Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,336	If you can buy only one make sure it's an M14/M1A. __________________ The History and Development of the M14 EBR

December 23, 2009, 10:18 AM	#15
Stumper Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 438	I voted for the Vepr since it is the .308 semi auto that excited me into a purchase. The Vepr is , at least to my eyes, a beautiful "battle rifle" (of course it is really a Kalashnikov based sporting rifle). From a practical standpoint the AR10 based rifles are probably superior in accuracy and the Hk 91 mags are now dirt cheap so one of those makes good sense......but I still love the Vepr. __________________ "Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready." Theodore Roosevelt "If only God has magic, how does Santa get down the chimney?" Natalie Peters age 4

December 22, 2009, 04:19 PM	#2
RangerHAAF Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2007 Location: Decatur, GA Posts: 269	For long range shooting using a 308 rifle I prefer the new FN-AR. I have previously owned both the DSA-SA58 and an AR-10. The SA58 was not accurate and the AR-10 uses the gas impingement system that I don't like. So far the FNAR is the best shooting of all of the newer model "black" rifles on the market(IMO), even Winchester is coming out with one that's an exact copy of it; it's called the SX-AR. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...terfire-rifle/

December 22, 2009, 04:33 PM	#3
Brenten Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2009 Posts: 208	POF's 308 AR based rifles are piston not DI and shoot sub moa. The new LWRC REPR is as well. as is the Knight Arms SR-25. So there are many options. The FNAR looks like it is extremely accurate, however. I have seen M1A's with NM parts and good stocks shoot sub moa. But accuracy is not the only thing here. I have not voted yet, but I noticed that one of the least accurate rifles is getting the most votes...lol. The FAL, why? simple, it is rugged and well designed, reliable and very ergonomic. It's not always about accuracy.

December 22, 2009, 04:57 PM	#4
scorpiusdeus Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2007 Location: Ventura County, CA Posts: 300	All depends on what we're using them for. Over all I like the M1A and HK 91.

December 22, 2009, 05:20 PM	#6
Brenten Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2009 Posts: 208	my bad. I thought I had heard that KA was making piston uppers for their guns now. I guess it is just a rumor. But I could swear I read that somewhere. I guess that leaves LWRC and POF.

December 22, 2009, 05:23 PM	#7
Brenten Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2009 Posts: 208	curious as to what bullpup design was voted on?

December 22, 2009, 07:51 PM	#8
RT Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2000 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2,194	Well, If you are gonna buy it I would say a LRB or Smith enterprises M14.

December 23, 2009, 12:17 AM	#9
qwman68 Junior member Join Date: May 10, 2009 Location: Crimson Tide Country Posts: 359	+1 on the FNAR..

December 23, 2009, 07:36 AM	#12
Brenten Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2009 Posts: 208	yup, but if you look at it as a cost basis, you can get an FN fairly cheap, about 1300-1400, plus 6 mags put you at 1800 or so. not to bad. The bigger issue is spare parts and future spare mags. In this climate of possibly banning of assault weapons, this could be a factor. I am not surprised at the early outcome of this poll. SA M1A owners outnumber all others when it comes to 308's. AR's are close and HK's due to the PTR's are not far behind. What does surprise me is the FAL. You hardly ever see them at the range, yet they are in 2nd place. Where are all those closet FAL owners Great rifle obviously.

December 23, 2009, 10:06 AM	#13
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	HK91 no question about it.

December 23, 2009, 10:59 AM	#16
svaz Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2009 Location: KFHU Posts: 177	I voted for the Dragunov. Simply put, it is, to me, the most visually appealing and is more accurate than I am. Naturally, I'd prefer it in x54R (if I could pick up a couple of crates of 7N1 or 7N14, I'd be all set), but I'd be ok w/ a x51 version too (or BOTH!) __________________ At your local library, 973.931 PAU

December 23, 2009, 01:55 PM	#17
stubbicatt Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2007 Posts: 1,707	Didn't we just do this? I like nearly all of these rifles. Just that these days I really like the PTR91. so many cool accessories available for them, and they shoot as good as the others. Very reliable rifle too.

December 23, 2009, 02:26 PM	#18
LordofWar Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2009 Location: Pakistan Posts: 646	FYI, Dragunov SVD is 7.62x54R & not .308 aka 7.62x51mm NATO.

December 23, 2009, 03:09 PM	#19
MHbushmaster Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2007 Location: near Rochester, NY Posts: 116	FAL: The right arm of the free world.

December 23, 2009, 04:00 PM	#21
MHbushmaster Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2007 Location: near Rochester, NY Posts: 116	There are some SVD Drag's that are in .308Winchester here in the USA. But yes, most are chambered in 7.62x54R

December 23, 2009, 09:18 PM	#22
LukeA Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2009 Posts: 542	Can't pick between FAL and M-14.

December 23, 2009, 09:28 PM	#23
Palmetto-Pride Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,071	The FN SCAR would be my pick. __________________ “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” -Margaret Thatcher-

December 23, 2009, 09:53 PM	#24
Brenten Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2009 Posts: 208	M14/M1A for me, as I have owned nearly as many as I have digits.

December 23, 2009, 10:14 PM	#25
NWCP Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2006 Posts: 1,903	Why only own one. I'd be hard pressed to give up either my HK91, or CZ SA VZ58. Both are great rifles.