Rare Glock

Tankist · October 20, 2001, 08:23 AM

Came across this pic while surfing around. This is rare version of a G17 which is in use with some Israeli SF undercover units.

note: Not all in service are like that, this one is a rare example.

Tankist · October 20, 2001, 08:26 AM

Here's one in a holster

Blue Duck357 · October 20, 2001, 09:03 AM

Is it a safety or a selector switch (ala Glock 18) ?

Tankist · October 20, 2001, 09:36 AM

I believe the caption said thumb safety...

Tecolote · October 20, 2001, 04:31 PM

Is that pic from www.isayeret.com That's the only place I've ever seen a pic of that Glock associated with Israel. If it's from that page then the caption is A very rare photo of a modified Glock 17 with a safety catch and adjustable sights. Note that the Glock 17 usually only come with a Safe Action Trigger System, rather then a manual thumb safety lever as seen in this photo.

www.isayeret.com/weapons/glock17.htm

It doesn't say anything about a Glock with a safety in service with the IDF. I'd really like to get more info on that. Could you please post a link?

Tankist · October 20, 2001, 04:54 PM

Yeah, that's the place where I saw it. (ton's of interesting stuff on that site. Did you see the sawn off CAR15?)

You are correct, Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like they are all modified like that. Just that some units use G17's. This one must have been part of a batch modified for some reason maybe testing. I also remember hearing a while ago that Glock actually modified some guns in this fashion (manual safety) while trying to get them accepted by some armed forces/police departments. I don't think any of them were ever mass produced though.

Tamara · October 20, 2001, 08:08 PM

...a modification originally ordered by the Tasmanian police. (Dunno if anyone else has used them officially)

Angel · October 20, 2001, 08:43 PM

I saw one on one of the auction boards for sale this week. It is either on auctionarms or for the hunt.com. Description was a 17 modified with external safety.
Angel

Angel · October 20, 2001, 09:19 PM

found it look here:
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...p?Item=2246748

the auction is almost up but at least you can see what I was talking about
angel

VictorLouis · October 21, 2001, 09:19 PM

That's an aftermarket modification and parts. The gun pictured earlier is supposedly the Taz police gun, as Tamara pointed out.

Master Blaster · October 22, 2001, 07:48 AM

I read soemwhere that the IDF is going to the glock 17 as their new service pistol. They used to carry (and still do) the browning highpower, the high power has a safety mounted on the frame.
This maybe the IDF contract pistol we see with a manual safety?

Read somewhere that the Austrian police wnated a g-17 with a safety also.

Tecolote · October 22, 2001, 08:16 AM

Some elite counter terrorist units use the Glock 17, but the Glock of choice for the IDF is the Glock 19C. It doesn't have any frame mounted safety other than Glock's Safe-Action. The transition won't happen over night so lots of units still use Browning HP, Jericho, and SIG Sauer.

Nightcrawler · October 22, 2001, 09:05 AM

According to Israyet.com, the Israelis use several 9mm pistols.

IMI Jericho 941 (Imported by Magnum Research as the Baby Eagle)
Sig P226
Sig P228
Glock 17
Browning Hi-Power (FN Mk. 3)

Tecolote · October 22, 2001, 09:13 AM

Israyet.com is probably the best and most reliable web source on the IDF, but I think it's just behind the curve on the G19C. There was a discussion on www.glocktalk.com and a couple of IDF members said that the G19C was the new issue sidearm. If you do a thread search I'm sure you'll find the info.

GLOCKT · October 22, 2001, 10:56 PM

Theres several companies here that will convert Glocks to external safety models.In doing this you void warranties with Glock.It's an old picture the Glock is a G17, 2nd generation.There are serrations on front or rear of grip, and no grooves or accessory rail on frame.SAFE-SHOOTING!

blades67 · October 23, 2001, 12:41 AM

A solution in search of a problem.

October 20, 2001, 04:31 PM	#5
Tecolote Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 1999 Posts: 1,999	In service? Is that pic from www.isayeret.com That's the only place I've ever seen a pic of that Glock associated with Israel. If it's from that page then the caption is A very rare photo of a modified Glock 17 with a safety catch and adjustable sights. Note that the Glock 17 usually only come with a Safe Action Trigger System, rather then a manual thumb safety lever as seen in this photo. www.isayeret.com/weapons/glock17.htm It doesn't say anything about a Glock with a safety in service with the IDF. I'd really like to get more info on that. Could you please post a link? __________________ “I've been beat up, I've been thrown out, but I'm not down.” The Clash

October 20, 2001, 08:08 PM	#7
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	That's the elusive Glock w/manual safety: ...a modification originally ordered by the Tasmanian police. (Dunno if anyone else has used them officially) __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

October 21, 2001, 09:19 PM	#10
VictorLouis Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2000 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,302	That's not the factory version That's an aftermarket modification and parts. The gun pictured earlier is supposedly the Taz police gun, as Tamara pointed out.

October 22, 2001, 08:16 AM	#12
Tecolote Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 1999 Posts: 1,999	Glock 19 Some elite counter terrorist units use the Glock 17, but the Glock of choice for the IDF is the Glock 19C. It doesn't have any frame mounted safety other than Glock's Safe-Action. The transition won't happen over night so lots of units still use Browning HP, Jericho, and SIG Sauer. __________________ “I've been beat up, I've been thrown out, but I'm not down.” The Clash

October 22, 2001, 09:05 AM	#13
Nightcrawler Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2000 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,945	According to Israyet.com, the Israelis use several 9mm pistols. IMI Jericho 941 (Imported by Magnum Research as the Baby Eagle) Sig P226 Sig P228 Glock 17 Browning Hi-Power (FN Mk. 3) __________________ Nightcrawler- TFL Alumnus

October 20, 2001, 09:03 AM	#3
Blue Duck357 Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2000 Posts: 1,460	Is it a safety or a selector switch (ala Glock 18) ?

October 20, 2001, 09:36 AM	#4
Tankist Senior Member Join Date: August 15, 2000 Posts: 222	I believe the caption said thumb safety...

October 20, 2001, 04:54 PM	#6
Tankist Senior Member Join Date: August 15, 2000 Posts: 222	Yeah, that's the place where I saw it. (ton's of interesting stuff on that site. Did you see the sawn off CAR15?) You are correct, Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like they are all modified like that. Just that some units use G17's. This one must have been part of a batch modified for some reason maybe testing. I also remember hearing a while ago that Glock actually modified some guns in this fashion (manual safety) while trying to get them accepted by some armed forces/police departments. I don't think any of them were ever mass produced though.

October 20, 2001, 08:43 PM	#8
Angel Member Join Date: January 27, 2001 Posts: 23	I saw one on one of the auction boards for sale this week. It is either on auctionarms or for the hunt.com. Description was a 17 modified with external safety. Angel

October 20, 2001, 09:19 PM	#9
Angel Member Join Date: January 27, 2001 Posts: 23	found it look here: http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...p?Item=2246748 the auction is almost up but at least you can see what I was talking about angel

October 22, 2001, 07:48 AM	#11
Master Blaster Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: One of the original 13 Colonies Posts: 2,281	I read soemwhere that the IDF is going to the glock 17 as their new service pistol. They used to carry (and still do) the browning highpower, the high power has a safety mounted on the frame. This maybe the IDF contract pistol we see with a manual safety? Read somewhere that the Austrian police wnated a g-17 with a safety also.

October 22, 2001, 09:13 AM	#14
Tecolote Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 1999 Posts: 1,999	Source Israyet.com is probably the best and most reliable web source on the IDF, but I think it's just behind the curve on the G19C. There was a discussion on www.glocktalk.com and a couple of IDF members said that the G19C was the new issue sidearm. If you do a thread search I'm sure you'll find the info. __________________ “I've been beat up, I've been thrown out, but I'm not down.” The Clash

October 22, 2001, 10:56 PM	#15
GLOCKT Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: 394203n/860406w Posts: 216	Theres several companies here that will convert Glocks to external safety models.In doing this you void warranties with Glock.It's an old picture the Glock is a G17, 2nd generation.There are serrations on front or rear of grip, and no grooves or accessory rail on frame.SAFE-SHOOTING! __________________ "Those who try running, will only die tired" Guns and more guns! How much is too much?

October 23, 2001, 12:41 AM	#16
blades67 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 6,014	A solution in search of a problem. __________________ Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat! I hunt, therefore I am.