Oh no...

Paul K · January 22, 2002, 10:03 PM

Honestley i cant tell if this is a joke or a real website...
http://www.goodbyeguns.com/
Dry heves...:barf:

Elizabeth Petersen · January 22, 2002, 10:13 PM

"We, the people, call upon you, our elected representatives, to enact laws to:

Create a one year period for the United States of America to purchase at fair market value all guns and firearms, including hand guns, rifles, and even antique guns and rifles from domestic private ownership.

Prohibit and criminalize the domestic sale of guns and firearms, whether new or used.

Seize and destroy any gun or firearm found after the termination of the purchase period without compensation.

Prohibit and criminalize the domestic possession of a gun or firearm after the termination of the one year purchase period.

Provide exemptions for governmental law enforcement agencies, the armed services, and bona fide museums."

What the hell kind of bonzo crack are these people smoking???

Whoa...I think they are actually serious.

:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

Hemicuda · January 22, 2002, 10:23 PM

I think some people need to step away from the bong and let the smoke clear...

those crackpost are OBVIOUSLY wacked out on something!

OF · January 22, 2002, 10:25 PM

It's for real. They're insane.

- Gabe

Lennyjoe · January 22, 2002, 10:30 PM

Heres an e-mail I sent them. We'll see how they respond to it shortly.

You the people should look at England and see what happened when they took the guns away from their populous. The gun related crimes rose over 66% last year. Why do you think that is? Cause the bad guys will get guns illegally anyway if they are banned and they can walk around with the perception that the victims will not be able to defend themself cause you the people took the only means of self defense away from them with your idiotic ideas. Good luck trying to take away peoples rights under the Second Amendment to the Constitution. Better yet,if you cut out your tongue and give up your rights under the 1st Amendement ( freedom of speech) then I'll give you my gun and my rights under the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Are you willing to give up your rights? Thought not.

Chatch · January 22, 2002, 10:32 PM

Notice where the political cartoon on the home page came from . . . The Detroit Free Press. I'm glad that I stopped getting that newspaper. It made me sick to read it. It is one of the most biased publications on firearms I've ever read.

Zundfolge · January 22, 2002, 10:37 PM

Notice that the "evidence" he puts forth to counter "gun control myths" are nothing but political cartoons

And this guy has a show called "Think Radio"? I don't think he could define the word "Think" if you dropped an unabridged dictionary on him.

faraway · January 22, 2002, 10:38 PM

It's real...and the lifting of the ed. cartoons is quite effective. The use of the pistols as pointers isn't bad either. Where's the kid who did 'mommy liberty', gonna need him.

Kaylee · January 22, 2002, 10:47 PM

not worth bothering with. One guy who's been breathing the fetid byproducts of his own mental masturbation so long he actually believes it, and who furthermore thinks his opinion matters to the outside world 'cause he blew sixty bucks on a domain name.

Small fry. Save the energy for those we can actually reach.

-K

PS.. on this page:
http://www.goodbyeguns.com/myth1.html

Cartoon 2
I don't think he's reading it quite right. I see it as... "so... you want to ban 'em hunh? How ya gonna take 'em?" Of course, I'm sure he hasn't thought that far ahead.

Elizabeth Petersen · January 22, 2002, 10:53 PM

Quote:

One guy who's been breathing the fetid byproducts of his own mental masturbation

Oh my GOD, Kaylee...I just wet myself.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

faraway · January 23, 2002, 01:26 AM

"mental masturbation"... now Kaylee don't go Dali on us.....

blades67 · January 23, 2002, 01:37 AM

This guys masterbation is all mental, and he still can't get it up!

**Mike Irwin** · January 23, 2002, 01:51 AM

Who wants to put together a competing web site, something like helloguns...

Governmental arming of citizen in the US.

Laws requriring citizens to carry a gun at all times.

Etc.

I think we'd have to work overtime just to field the hate mail.

ReverendHobo · January 23, 2002, 01:54 AM

The website is a co-operation of Lew Payne and Kimberly Tracey. It is operated under the shield of Lew Payne Publishing, Inc. Kimberly Tracey also owns Apache Moon Productions, which in turn publishes (together with Lew Payne) http://www.babe.net/

Visit it. Kevin Mitnick is their hero. That, and they promote some porn.

SteelyDan · January 23, 2002, 02:01 AM

Hey, come on, a person's mind can't atrophy that badly just from breathing masturbatory vapors, can it? I mean, that was just a figure of speech, right? Because, um, I have a friend who'd want to know.

Besides, the petition was sponsored by "Think Radio," so they must be right, if you just stop and think...

thumbtack · January 23, 2002, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Clark believes a small group of con artists are fooling our citizens into throwing away the rights our founding fathers paid for with their lives. Think Radio advocates "awareness and thought" as tools to defeat these evil and sinister con artists.

This was taken from the bottom of page.
http://www.goodbyeguns.com/victims.html

He is one of them.

chaim · January 23, 2002, 03:48 PM

Interesting.

In the bio of Clark Garen you find this:

Quote:

. In his legal practice, he relishes cases that emphasize the rights of the individual. "Even though the preservation of individual rights is out of fashion now," Clark explains, "I've always admired Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren, who understood that the primary purpose of the Court was protecting every individual from being oppressed by the Government."

His #1 philosophy is protecting individual rights. Yet the site is militantly anti-gun and anti-gun rights and EVERY link is anti-2nd amendment. Oh yea, I forgot in the second amendment "...the right of the people..." means "the right of the state".

:barf:

Another piece that doesn't quite fit: "In his legal practice, he relishes cases that emphasize the rights of the individual" yet, according to his bio, he spent 27 years in the collection agency business (last I saw that meant he represented companies against individuals).

coati · January 23, 2002, 04:22 PM

Folks that are this rabid anti are marketing their "product" creatively and would shut up if they walked off their daisy farm into the light of day.

Archer1440 · January 23, 2002, 04:28 PM

ROTFL.

Clark Garen was denied entrance to the bar of Washington state because of what the Washington State Court of Appeals called "morally reprehensible conduct".

I love the "12 years as a 900 phone number information provider" he lists on his resume.

Juxtapose the two facts and what do you get ?

Bwahahaha !!

Don Gwinn · January 23, 2002, 06:09 PM

Sooooo......does that mean phone-sex entrepeneurs can't be lawyers?

THAT'S (snurk) NOT FAIR!

And (kfffttt) it's NOT FUNNY!

sumabich · January 23, 2002, 08:02 PM

Was that Kimberly in the yellow "T" shirt? Yes I visited the site!

January 22, 2002, 10:13 PM	#2
Elizabeth Petersen Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 571	"We, the people, call upon you, our elected representatives, to enact laws to: Create a one year period for the United States of America to purchase at fair market value all guns and firearms, including hand guns, rifles, and even antique guns and rifles from domestic private ownership. Prohibit and criminalize the domestic sale of guns and firearms, whether new or used. Seize and destroy any gun or firearm found after the termination of the purchase period without compensation. Prohibit and criminalize the domestic possession of a gun or firearm after the termination of the one year purchase period. Provide exemptions for governmental law enforcement agencies, the armed services, and bona fide museums." What the hell kind of bonzo crack are these people smoking??? Whoa...I think they are actually serious. :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: __________________ March all you want, sister. This mom prefers to protect her children with a 12 gauge. Vulnus pectoris sugens ne properetis mos naturae dicendi est Ask me about my Hemingway Death Wish. I dare you.

January 22, 2002, 10:23 PM	#3
Hemicuda Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,757	I think some people need to step away from the bong and let the smoke clear... those crackpost are OBVIOUSLY wacked out on something! __________________ Hemi. gun and car collector. Rare cars, and rarer guns.

January 22, 2002, 10:30 PM	#5
Lennyjoe Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2001 Location: Southwest Ohio Posts: 1,150	Heres an e-mail I sent them. We'll see how they respond to it shortly. You the people should look at England and see what happened when they took the guns away from their populous. The gun related crimes rose over 66% last year. Why do you think that is? Cause the bad guys will get guns illegally anyway if they are banned and they can walk around with the perception that the victims will not be able to defend themself cause you the people took the only means of self defense away from them with your idiotic ideas. Good luck trying to take away peoples rights under the Second Amendment to the Constitution. Better yet,if you cut out your tongue and give up your rights under the 1st Amendement ( freedom of speech) then I'll give you my gun and my rights under the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Are you willing to give up your rights? Thought not. __________________ If you see a Military man or a Vet, stop him and say "Thanks".

January 22, 2002, 10:37 PM	#7
Zundfolge Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2001 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,749	Notice that the "evidence" he puts forth to counter "gun control myths" are nothing but political cartoons And this guy has a show called "Think Radio"? I don't think he could define the word "Think" if you dropped an unabridged dictionary on him. __________________ "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws...you create a nation of law-breakers â€“ and then you cash in on guilt." Ayn Rand

January 23, 2002, 01:37 AM	#12
blades67 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 6,014	This guys masterbation is all mental, and he still can't get it up! __________________ Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat! I hunt, therefore I am.

January 22, 2002, 10:03 PM	#1
Paul K Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 674	Oh no... Honestley i cant tell if this is a joke or a real website... http://www.goodbyeguns.com/ Dry heves...:barf:

January 22, 2002, 10:25 PM	#4
OF Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2000 Posts: 2,239	It's for real. They're insane. - Gabe

January 22, 2002, 10:32 PM	#6
Chatch Junior Member Join Date: July 9, 2001 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 5	Notice where the political cartoon on the home page came from . . . The Detroit Free Press. I'm glad that I stopped getting that newspaper. It made me sick to read it. It is one of the most biased publications on firearms I've ever read.

January 22, 2002, 10:38 PM	#8
faraway Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2001 Location: ne montana Posts: 437	It's real...and the lifting of the ed. cartoons is quite effective. The use of the pistols as pointers isn't bad either. Where's the kid who did 'mommy liberty', gonna need him.

January 22, 2002, 10:47 PM	#9
Kaylee Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: The Last Homely House Posts: 1,677	not worth bothering with. One guy who's been breathing the fetid byproducts of his own mental masturbation so long he actually believes it, and who furthermore thinks his opinion matters to the outside world 'cause he blew sixty bucks on a domain name. Small fry. Save the energy for those we can actually reach. -K PS.. on this page: http://www.goodbyeguns.com/myth1.html Cartoon 2 I don't think he's reading it quite right. I see it as... "so... you want to ban 'em hunh? How ya gonna take 'em?" Of course, I'm sure he hasn't thought that far ahead.

January 23, 2002, 01:26 AM	#11
faraway Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2001 Location: ne montana Posts: 437	"mental masturbation"... now Kaylee don't go Dali on us.....

January 23, 2002, 01:51 AM	#13
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Who wants to put together a competing web site, something like helloguns... Governmental arming of citizen in the US. Laws requriring citizens to carry a gun at all times. Etc. I think we'd have to work overtime just to field the hate mail. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 23, 2002, 01:54 AM	#14
ReverendHobo Member Join Date: January 13, 2002 Location: Silicon Valley, PRK Posts: 80	The website is a co-operation of Lew Payne and Kimberly Tracey. It is operated under the shield of Lew Payne Publishing, Inc. Kimberly Tracey also owns Apache Moon Productions, which in turn publishes (together with Lew Payne) http://www.babe.net/ Visit it. Kevin Mitnick is their hero. That, and they promote some porn.

January 23, 2002, 02:01 AM	#15
SteelyDan Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 262	Hey, come on, a person's mind can't atrophy that badly just from breathing masturbatory vapors, can it? I mean, that was just a figure of speech, right? Because, um, I have a friend who'd want to know. Besides, the petition was sponsored by "Think Radio," so they must be right, if you just stop and think...

January 23, 2002, 04:22 PM	#18
coati Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2001 Location: Just outside the beltway, VA Posts: 288	Folks that are this rabid anti are marketing their "product" creatively and would shut up if they walked off their daisy farm into the light of day. __________________ coati

January 23, 2002, 04:28 PM	#19
Archer1440 Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 519	ROTFL. Clark Garen was denied entrance to the bar of Washington state because of what the Washington State Court of Appeals called "morally reprehensible conduct". I love the "12 years as a 900 phone number information provider" he lists on his resume. Juxtapose the two facts and what do you get ? Bwahahaha !!

January 23, 2002, 06:09 PM	#20
Don Gwinn Staff Emeritus Join Date: March 9, 2000 Location: Virden, IL Posts: 5,917	Sooooo......does that mean phone-sex entrepeneurs can't be lawyers? THAT'S (snurk) NOT FAIR! And (kfffttt) it's NOT FUNNY! __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don Gwinn: Chicago Gun Rights Examiner

January 23, 2002, 08:02 PM	#21
sumabich Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2000 Location: NC,USA Posts: 861	Hey Revhobo Was that Kimberly in the yellow "T" shirt? Yes I visited the site!