Heckler & Koch or Glock?

savagehunter308 · June 30, 2001, 01:58 PM

what do u like better?

Blue Duck357 · June 30, 2001, 02:06 PM

The sad part is I value simplicity so much in a firearms design, I think I'd still favor the Glock even if it cost more than the HK's.

Flattop · June 30, 2001, 03:08 PM

I've shot both guns in various calibers. The H&K feels better to me. I went and bought a USP .45F and have no regrets. When I'm at the range with my friend I still shoot their Glocks, but I like my USP better.

Maatulf · June 30, 2001, 03:24 PM

but only slightly. I feel the Hk has a slight edge in versatility. Now if the Glock didn't have the availability of hi-caps, the margin would be wider.

CharlieTuna · June 30, 2001, 03:54 PM

HK- but it is mainly an asthetic thing. I don't care for the lines of any Glock, even though I do own a couple. Plus I enjoy not seeing a million HKs whenever I go shooting, it provides a nice change of pace from all the Glocks, 1911s, and Berettas.

George Hill · June 30, 2001, 03:56 PM

HK - No built in finger grooves, it has a HAMMER, and it had accessory rails from the start. Glock copied them.

.357SIG · June 30, 2001, 05:20 PM

This is a very difficult question for me. I voted for the HK for one simple reason; I can shoot it more accurately than the Glock.

www.glock19.com · June 30, 2001, 07:34 PM

Both great units but I prefer the Glock.

Marko Kloos · June 30, 2001, 08:10 PM

If we're talking Polymer vs. Polymer, I'd go with Glock. HK USP in all its variants is overpriced and lacks the simplicity of the Glock, although I will concede they're very fine pistols.

All the HK pistols I really like are non-polymer: P7M8, P7PSP, and the P9S. The USP never really rang my chimes.

leedesert · June 30, 2001, 08:17 PM

This is difficult to say unless you get specific. HK has models that don't fall in the same category as Glock's. For a light weight reliable combat gun I would buy a Glock.

blades67 · June 30, 2001, 10:11 PM

HK makes a fine pistol, but if you have a problem with it their Customer Service is worse than poor. I have never had a good experience with HK's Customer Service department. I have been hung-up on, ignored and otherwise endured rude behavior.

I have never had a bad experience with a Glock Representative. I have had an extractor replaced, for free, because the bluing, or parkerizing, had come off the one side visible on the side of the slide. I have had a couple of magazines replaced because the outer polymer was cracked. When I call Glock I will get an answer, or a call back, by a polite and helpful person.

Based on this alone I will have to say get a Glock first. Buy an HK if you have the money and like being ignored when you have a problem like a broken firing pin spring.

gryphon · June 30, 2001, 11:03 PM

HK, mostly because I shoot them better than the Glock.

The HK feels better to me, shoots better to me and looks better to me...

Glock236 · June 30, 2001, 11:22 PM

Both makes are great, and each have it's own advantage over the other. I, myself sold my USP .40 to buy a Glock 23 and have no regrets in doing so.

It all comes down to personal preference between H&K and Glock, I trusted my life with each.

Bob Locke · July 1, 2001, 12:33 AM

My G21 is my favorite firearm in my entire collection, followed closely by my G19.

That's not to say that H&K doesn't make truly fine pistols, because they most certainly do.

But for me, it's The Combat Tupperware,

The Drastic Plastic,

The One and Only:

GLOCK!

July 1, 2001, 01:02 AM

ohhh...after my vote, it's a tie!

Jesse H · July 1, 2001, 01:42 AM

everything aside...and just based on the feel of the gun...I'd have to go with the HK.

Today a friend of mine bought an HK USP 45. Meanwhile I rented a Glock 19, just to get a feel of it, to see if I could shoot it better than the 26.

Anyways, yes, I could shoot it better than the 26. But I couldn't shoot it as well as the HK. Sure they were different calibers, but my trigger finger still hurts from that Glock trigger. After 200 rounds my finger is sore.

Main reason I rented the G19 was because I wanted to get an idea of what the HS2000's would feel like since they are similar guns, from what I've been reading. If the HS2000 is a 300 dollar gun that felt like the Glock I shot today...and with a better trigger...I'm sold. I just have to find a place in Houston that may have them for a reasonable price.

vanguard · July 1, 2001, 02:11 AM

I have to go with a GLock.
I have a Glock 34 and 35 that I shoot USPSA.
My HK includes, HK USP40, USP match, P7m8, P7M10, P9S 9mm, P9s Target 45.....I shoot my HK way more accurately and I like HK designs FAR BETTER, fits better, and trigger is better.
BUT
My Glock is simpler, more reliable to my experience, and the parts are cheap and plentiful. Magazines are everywhere.

That was a hard choice though....It would be a toss up between the Glock 35 and P7M10.

George Helser · July 1, 2001, 03:19 AM

It depends on the application:

OFFENSIVE HANDGUN
The HK MK23 with a wet KAC suppressor has no comparison!

CCW
For IWB, the P7 suites me well.
For ankle carry, the G26 is compact.
The trigger and grip on the G26 lends to VERY accurate shooting.
The SA pull with no safeties on the Glock scares me for the potential to AD.

HOME DEFENSE
The P7 is the winner. It can be kept loaded for instant use but someone unfamiliar with a P7 cannot usually fire it.

Regards,
George
In sunny Scottsdale Arizona

tonyz · July 1, 2001, 09:18 AM

Easy The HK in any Model.

Tony Z

glh · July 1, 2001, 12:11 PM

I have owned several Glocks and HK pistols..while the HK is a fine gun..I have to say that the Glock is the fastest to first shot auto..excluding 1911s that I have used. The Glock is a fine CCW weapon and quite safe.

I really like the HK and would not feel at all underarmed with one.

I have been shooting for over thirty years and I have found there are many pistols better than the Glock for other applications..but for CCW a Glock is very hard to beat.

Gary [COLOR=blue][SIZE=3][FONT=times new roman]

vyper005 · July 1, 2001, 07:33 PM

What the hell...Get a couple of each

Shake · July 1, 2001, 08:41 PM

H&K

I have always had good luck with H&K's customer service. Rarely had to use it, but when I have, they have always been friendly, helpful, and quick to respond.

H&K's are my personal favorite as I shoot them better than all my other handguns.

Shake

twoblink · July 1, 2001, 10:09 PM

Glock or HK?

That's easy...

STEYR.

Albert

centralpadoug · July 1, 2001, 10:10 PM

Love my G17, but sleep with my H&K...ok it hangs out while I sleep next to it. Can't beat H&K's fit, reliabilty, and shear shooting fun! HOWEVER, my Glock hasn't let me down (except for the trigger spring during a steel match).

What you mean a Glock actually failed???? Yes, even the mighty Glock!

My USP .45 had an ejector prob out the box, H&K fixed it and got it back to me in 5 biz days, plus a free mag for my trouble...can't really complain about THAT service! I guess its just the touch

.

I like the SA/ DA alternative w/ H&K...where's glock there...or am I hoping for too much?

Glock236 · July 1, 2001, 11:58 PM

I thought the first 10,000 Steyr's had a problem and was recalled for an upgrade??? Not very re-assuring in my book.

***Editted***
WHat about the fact that their going out of business??? Ouch

http://www.gsifirearms.com/s-notice-steyr.html

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June 30, 2001, 01:58 PM	#1
savagehunter308 Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2001 Location: Cave Creek, AZ Posts: 134	Heckler & Koch or Glock? what do u like better? __________________ "Forgive them not....For the know exactly what they do"

June 30, 2001, 02:06 PM	#2
Blue Duck357 Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2000 Posts: 1,460	Glock The sad part is I value simplicity so much in a firearms design, I think I'd still favor the Glock even if it cost more than the HK's.

June 30, 2001, 03:24 PM	#4
Maatulf Member Join Date: November 5, 2000 Posts: 46	Hk... but only slightly. I feel the Hk has a slight edge in versatility. Now if the Glock didn't have the availability of hi-caps, the margin would be wider. __________________ "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands, which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -Samuel Adams

June 30, 2001, 03:56 PM	#6
George Hill Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,546	HK - No built in finger grooves, it has a HAMMER, and it had accessory rails from the start. Glock copied them. __________________ MAD OGRE

June 30, 2001, 03:08 PM	#3
Flattop Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 199	I've shot both guns in various calibers. The H&K feels better to me. I went and bought a USP .45F and have no regrets. When I'm at the range with my friend I still shoot their Glocks, but I like my USP better.

June 30, 2001, 03:54 PM	#5
CharlieTuna Member Join Date: June 6, 2001 Posts: 27	HK- but it is mainly an asthetic thing. I don't care for the lines of any Glock, even though I do own a couple. Plus I enjoy not seeing a million HKs whenever I go shooting, it provides a nice change of pace from all the Glocks, 1911s, and Berettas.

June 30, 2001, 05:20 PM	#7
.357SIG Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 1999 Posts: 1,023	This is a very difficult question for me. I voted for the HK for one simple reason; I can shoot it more accurately than the Glock.

June 30, 2001, 07:34 PM	#8
www.glock19.com Member Join Date: June 21, 2001 Location: Lincoln Ne. Posts: 76	Both great units but I prefer the Glock. __________________ I have some vettes and some glocks see um herehttp://www.glock19.com

June 30, 2001, 08:10 PM	#9
Marko Kloos Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2000 Location: Enfield, NH Posts: 5,521	If we're talking Polymer vs. Polymer, I'd go with Glock. HK USP in all its variants is overpriced and lacks the simplicity of the Glock, although I will concede they're very fine pistols. All the HK pistols I really like are non-polymer: P7M8, P7PSP, and the P9S. The USP never really rang my chimes. __________________ "The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." --A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapon Shops of Isher the munchkin wrangler.

June 30, 2001, 08:17 PM	#10
leedesert Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 1999 Location: Ga Posts: 633	This is difficult to say unless you get specific. HK has models that don't fall in the same category as Glock's. For a light weight reliable combat gun I would buy a Glock. __________________ "It is easier to get out of jail then it is a morgue" Live long and defend yourself! John 3:16 LEO in 2002 NRA lifer GOA GSSF KABA

June 30, 2001, 10:11 PM	#11
blades67 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA Posts: 6,014	HK makes a fine pistol, but if you have a problem with it their Customer Service is worse than poor. I have never had a good experience with HK's Customer Service department. I have been hung-up on, ignored and otherwise endured rude behavior. I have never had a bad experience with a Glock Representative. I have had an extractor replaced, for free, because the bluing, or parkerizing, had come off the one side visible on the side of the slide. I have had a couple of magazines replaced because the outer polymer was cracked. When I call Glock I will get an answer, or a call back, by a polite and helpful person. Based on this alone I will have to say get a Glock first. Buy an HK if you have the money and like being ignored when you have a problem like a broken firing pin spring. __________________ Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat! I hunt, therefore I am.

June 30, 2001, 11:03 PM	#12
gryphon Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,069	HK, mostly because I shoot them better than the Glock. The HK feels better to me, shoots better to me and looks better to me... __________________ Your suffering will be legendary, even in HELL!! --- PinHead, HellRaiser 2

June 30, 2001, 11:22 PM	#13
Glock236 Member Join Date: June 28, 2001 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 85	Both makes are great, and each have it's own advantage over the other. I, myself sold my USP .40 to buy a Glock 23 and have no regrets in doing so. It all comes down to personal preference between H&K and Glock, I trusted my life with each. __________________ Glock 30

July 1, 2001, 12:33 AM	#14
Bob Locke Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 1999 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 2,518	Glock 4 Locke! My G21 is my favorite firearm in my entire collection, followed closely by my G19. That's not to say that H&K doesn't make truly fine pistols, because they most certainly do. But for me, it's The Combat Tupperware, The Drastic Plastic, The One and Only: GLOCK!

July 1, 2001, 01:02 AM	#15
PreserveFreedom Guest Posts: n/a	ohhh...after my vote, it's a tie!

July 1, 2001, 01:42 AM	#16
Jesse H Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2001 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 573	everything aside...and just based on the feel of the gun...I'd have to go with the HK. Today a friend of mine bought an HK USP 45. Meanwhile I rented a Glock 19, just to get a feel of it, to see if I could shoot it better than the 26. Anyways, yes, I could shoot it better than the 26. But I couldn't shoot it as well as the HK. Sure they were different calibers, but my trigger finger still hurts from that Glock trigger. After 200 rounds my finger is sore. Main reason I rented the G19 was because I wanted to get an idea of what the HS2000's would feel like since they are similar guns, from what I've been reading. If the HS2000 is a 300 dollar gun that felt like the Glock I shot today...and with a better trigger...I'm sold. I just have to find a place in Houston that may have them for a reasonable price. __________________ Jesse "We’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces Singing whiskey for my men, beer for my horses" -Toby Keith

July 1, 2001, 02:11 AM	#17
vanguard Member Join Date: May 26, 2001 Posts: 18	I have to go with a GLock. I have a Glock 34 and 35 that I shoot USPSA. My HK includes, HK USP40, USP match, P7m8, P7M10, P9S 9mm, P9s Target 45.....I shoot my HK way more accurately and I like HK designs FAR BETTER, fits better, and trigger is better. BUT My Glock is simpler, more reliable to my experience, and the parts are cheap and plentiful. Magazines are everywhere. That was a hard choice though....It would be a toss up between the Glock 35 and P7M10.

July 1, 2001, 03:19 AM	#18
George Helser Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2000 Location: Scottsdale AZ Posts: 242	It depends on the application: OFFENSIVE HANDGUN The HK MK23 with a wet KAC suppressor has no comparison! CCW For IWB, the P7 suites me well. For ankle carry, the G26 is compact. The trigger and grip on the G26 lends to VERY accurate shooting. The SA pull with no safeties on the Glock scares me for the potential to AD. HOME DEFENSE The P7 is the winner. It can be kept loaded for instant use but someone unfamiliar with a P7 cannot usually fire it. Regards, George In sunny Scottsdale Arizona

July 1, 2001, 09:18 AM	#19
tonyz Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2000 Location: Wa Posts: 922	HK or GLOCK Easy The HK in any Model. Tony Z __________________ Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained

July 1, 2001, 12:11 PM	#20
glh Member Join Date: December 3, 2000 Posts: 67	I have owned several Glocks and HK pistols..while the HK is a fine gun..I have to say that the Glock is the fastest to first shot auto..excluding 1911s that I have used. The Glock is a fine CCW weapon and quite safe. I really like the HK and would not feel at all underarmed with one. I have been shooting for over thirty years and I have found there are many pistols better than the Glock for other applications..but for CCW a Glock is very hard to beat. Gary [COLOR=blue][SIZE=3][FONT=times new roman]

July 1, 2001, 07:33 PM	#21
vyper005 Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2000 Location: Delaware Posts: 350	What the hell...Get a couple of each

July 1, 2001, 08:41 PM	#22
Shake Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 1999 Location: Utah Posts: 1,004	H&K I have always had good luck with H&K's customer service. Rarely had to use it, but when I have, they have always been friendly, helpful, and quick to respond. H&K's are my personal favorite as I shoot them better than all my other handguns. Shake __________________ “The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make some other bastard die for his.” -George Patton

July 1, 2001, 10:09 PM	#23
twoblink Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 1999 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 2,025	Glock or HK? That's easy... STEYR. Albert

July 1, 2001, 10:10 PM	#24
centralpadoug Member Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: Capital Region Pennsylvania Posts: 73	Love my G17, but sleep with my H&K...ok it hangs out while I sleep next to it. Can't beat H&K's fit, reliabilty, and shear shooting fun! HOWEVER, my Glock hasn't let me down (except for the trigger spring during a steel match). What you mean a Glock actually failed???? Yes, even the mighty Glock! My USP .45 had an ejector prob out the box, H&K fixed it and got it back to me in 5 biz days, plus a free mag for my trouble...can't really complain about THAT service! I guess its just the touch . I like the SA/ DA alternative w/ H&K...where's glock there...or am I hoping for too much? __________________ Shoot straight and laugh often!

July 1, 2001, 11:58 PM	#25
Glock236 Member Join Date: June 28, 2001 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 85	I thought the first 10,000 Steyr's had a problem and was recalled for an upgrade??? Not very re-assuring in my book. *Editted* WHat about the fact that their going out of business??? Ouch http://www.gsifirearms.com/s-notice-steyr.html __________________ Glock 30