Can we save TFL together?

Preacherman · December 18, 2002, 01:57 PM

Dear shooting friends,

I fully understand and respect Rich's decision, even though it's heartbreaking to see such a great forum close down. The question is - can we keep our TFL community going?

My idea is this. How about if we, as a community, represented (perhaps) by our administrators and moderators, were to look for a Web host that would house a "new" TFL (perhaps under a different name), but carrying over our existing membership list, screen names, post counts, etc.?

I assume this would cost money. I'm personally willing to pony up an annual fee to run the new online community. I'm guessing many of us would be able to find $20-$30 per year to support a new forum. This should give more than enough money to operate it, even with only a tenth of our present 18,000 members (after all, assuming a $25 membership fee, this will produce revenue of some $45,000 per year!). We could let new members in for a free period, after which, if they wanted to stay, we'd have to ask them to pony up as well.

This may be a forlorn hope, but I hate to see such a vibrant and interesting community close down. Any comments or suggestions? Let's hear 'em!

God bless.

Atc1man · December 18, 2002, 01:59 PM

www.ezboard.com
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Oleg Volk · December 18, 2002, 02:00 PM

This has been discussed extensively already. TFL won't stay on as an active forum but there's an allied forum in the spirit of TFL that's about to happen. Check your email please.

MitchSchaft · December 18, 2002, 02:01 PM

I think we should let TFL die in peace. Rich is responsible for everything that we have learned here. We should take that and spread it to others.

spacemanspiff · December 18, 2002, 02:05 PM

the 'free' ezboards are peppered with ads, and the pricing to pay for no ads is dependant on how many 'views' your board gets.
my guess is that ezboards would be cost prohibitive.

that said, i am willing to pay for something similar to what we have here at TFL.

labgrade · December 18, 2002, 02:05 PM

With all due respect, Atc1man, I don't care to have anything less than what I am accustommed to.

TFL or nothing.

Oleg's last gives me hope & waiting for that e-mail to come up .... I'm away for now.

$20-30? Kidding, right?

I've ponied up a few scoots here 'n there for The Cause & will do $100+ (actually, just seem to have that on-hand about now) in a heartbeat for TFL to remain up & running as is.

C'mon.

If we can't do this ourselves in Rich's most exemplary style, we ain't jack.

Any reason this can't be leveraged off-a & maintained?

MitchSchaft · December 18, 2002, 02:09 PM

A bunch of us, including caliban and Ala Dan, have already signed up here: http://www.gun-talk.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php

Kirk Keller · December 18, 2002, 02:20 PM

I'm with PreacherMan. Oleg, count me in on the allied forum. If it costs, I'm still there.

Correia · December 18, 2002, 02:25 PM

Whatever you guys need.

Long Path · December 18, 2002, 02:26 PM

Please send good site suggestions to: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...hreadid=146270

At least one new site will flourish from the TFL Members. I hope there'll be many more.

New sites would have to be under a different name, because "The Firing Line" is Rich's site. Let's open NEW venues, not a "TFL2".

FPrice · December 18, 2002, 02:33 PM

If there is a good forum developing out of the TFL membership I would like to participate.

Seeker · December 18, 2002, 02:51 PM

Quote:

allied forum in the spirit of TFL that's about to happen.

Please let me know what this is and where I can find it.

Leatherneck · December 18, 2002, 03:00 PM

Had an experience last year with a good forum (Taunton Press woodworking/homebuilding) that simply changed servers/OS software to a new format. It was a similar mix of old/young, friendly/not, and pro/newbies that always seemed to have just the right flavor under the original system. After it changed, a few old hands stayed on, a lot of new ones boarded, but the old flavor was gone. It would be nice to preserve the thoughtful, respectful and informed aspects of TFL in any new forum. Count me in.
Semper Fi
TC

22x9 · December 18, 2002, 03:01 PM

Oleg..

Count me in. Where do I need to send the check/money order?

Preacherman · December 18, 2002, 03:04 PM

To all of you - Oleg is getting something going, although I don't have any details yet. I suggest that if you want to keep the TFL family together, post your interest on this thread, and I'll e-mail Oleg to ask him to respond to us all when things get firmed up a little. Thank you all VERY much for the support!

God bless.

**Mike Irwin** · December 18, 2002, 03:13 PM

Yes, I'm interested in any new boards starting up.

I'm also over at www.familyfriendsfirearms.com

Seeker · December 18, 2002, 03:29 PM

Just checked in at gun talk.

They have a flashing banner that says "Welcome T F L Members"

I predict their membership grows

, they have added 13 members since I joined.

johnr · December 18, 2002, 03:35 PM

Oleg, I am certainly interested- kindly drop me a line when something gels.
JR

Zak Smith · December 18, 2002, 03:37 PM

I'm very interested in the new "allied forum" that Oleg is allegedly getting going.

-z

Preacherman · December 18, 2002, 03:37 PM

SIGN UP NOW!!!

See Oleg's thread here, and add your names. We'll keep the family together if it kills us! Molon labe!

Legionnaire · December 18, 2002, 03:39 PM

Oleg, keep us posted. Moving to gun-talk in the interim.

ajaxinacan · December 18, 2002, 04:21 PM

Please don't forget http://www.thearmedcitizen.net

It's a cozy little site, with ground rules very similar to TFL. Welcome all.

Gila Jorge · December 18, 2002, 04:41 PM

Oleg and Preacherman: count me in...also willing to subscribe...Blessings.

MarineTech · December 18, 2002, 07:29 PM

Oleg,

Another volunteer for a subscription site. I'm willing to pony up for the cause and assist in any other way that I can.

Blackhawk · December 18, 2002, 07:50 PM

Quote:

We'll keep the family together if it kills us!

Right, we'll survive if it kills us!

(Why does that seem reasonable right now?)

December 18, 2002, 01:57 PM	#1
Preacherman Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2002 Posts: 791	Can we save TFL together? Dear shooting friends, I fully understand and respect Rich's decision, even though it's heartbreaking to see such a great forum close down. The question is - can we keep our TFL community going? My idea is this. How about if we, as a community, represented (perhaps) by our administrators and moderators, were to look for a Web host that would house a "new" TFL (perhaps under a different name), but carrying over our existing membership list, screen names, post counts, etc.? I assume this would cost money. I'm personally willing to pony up an annual fee to run the new online community. I'm guessing many of us would be able to find $20-$30 per year to support a new forum. This should give more than enough money to operate it, even with only a tenth of our present 18,000 members (after all, assuming a $25 membership fee, this will produce revenue of some $45,000 per year!). We could let new members in for a free period, after which, if they wanted to stay, we'd have to ask them to pony up as well. This may be a forlorn hope, but I hate to see such a vibrant and interesting community close down. Any comments or suggestions? Let's hear 'em! God bless.

December 18, 2002, 02:00 PM	#3
Oleg Volk Staff Alumnus Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 7,022	This has been discussed extensively already. TFL won't stay on as an active forum but there's an allied forum in the spirit of TFL that's about to happen. Check your email please. __________________ Oleg "peacemonger" Volk blog.olevolk.net

December 18, 2002, 02:05 PM	#5
spacemanspiff Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2002 Location: alaska Posts: 3,498	the 'free' ezboards are peppered with ads, and the pricing to pay for no ads is dependant on how many 'views' your board gets. my guess is that ezboards would be cost prohibitive. that said, i am willing to pay for something similar to what we have here at TFL. __________________ "Every man alone is sincere; at the entrance of a second person hypocrisy begins." - Ralph Waldo Emerson "People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use." - Soren Kierkegaard

December 18, 2002, 02:20 PM	#8
Kirk Keller Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2001 Location: NC Posts: 808	I'm with PreacherMan. Oleg, count me in on the allied forum. If it costs, I'm still there. __________________ Proud TFL Alumnus

December 18, 2002, 02:26 PM	#10
Long Path Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: N. Texas Posts: 5,899	Please send good site suggestions to: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...hreadid=146270 At least one new site will flourish from the TFL Members. I hope there'll be many more. New sites would have to be under a different name, because "The Firing Line" is Rich's site. Let's open NEW venues, not a "TFL2". __________________ "Welcome to The Firing Line, a virtual community dedicated to the discussion and advancement of responsible firearms ownership."T.F.L. Policy Page Will you, too, be one who stands in the gap? ____________

December 18, 2002, 01:59 PM	#2
Atc1man Junior member Join Date: January 2, 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 422	www.ezboard.com is Free

December 18, 2002, 02:01 PM	#4
MitchSchaft Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2001 Posts: 1,197	I think we should let TFL die in peace. Rich is responsible for everything that we have learned here. We should take that and spread it to others.

December 18, 2002, 02:05 PM	#6
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	With all due respect, Atc1man, I don't care to have anything less than what I am accustommed to. TFL or nothing. Oleg's last gives me hope & waiting for that e-mail to come up .... I'm away for now. $20-30? Kidding, right? I've ponied up a few scoots here 'n there for The Cause & will do $100+ (actually, just seem to have that on-hand about now) in a heartbeat for TFL to remain up & running as is. C'mon. If we can't do this ourselves in Rich's most exemplary style, we ain't jack. Any reason this can't be leveraged off-a & maintained?

December 18, 2002, 02:09 PM	#7
MitchSchaft Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2001 Posts: 1,197	A bunch of us, including caliban and Ala Dan, have already signed up here: http://www.gun-talk.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php

December 18, 2002, 02:25 PM	#9
Correia Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 1998 Location: SLC Utah Posts: 3,740	Whatever you guys need.

December 18, 2002, 02:33 PM	#11
FPrice Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2000 Location: People's Commonwealth of Massachusetts Posts: 1,456	Oleg... If there is a good forum developing out of the TFL membership I would like to participate. __________________ Frosty Price "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai

December 18, 2002, 03:00 PM	#13
Leatherneck Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 292	Had an experience last year with a good forum (Taunton Press woodworking/homebuilding) that simply changed servers/OS software to a new format. It was a similar mix of old/young, friendly/not, and pro/newbies that always seemed to have just the right flavor under the original system. After it changed, a few old hands stayed on, a lot of new ones boarded, but the old flavor was gone. It would be nice to preserve the thoughtful, respectful and informed aspects of TFL in any new forum. Count me in. Semper Fi TC

December 18, 2002, 03:01 PM	#14
22x9 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2001 Location: Northern VA, USA Posts: 147	Oleg.. Count me in. Where do I need to send the check/money order? __________________ TFL Alumnus - and proud of it.

December 18, 2002, 03:04 PM	#15
Preacherman Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2002 Posts: 791	To all of you - Oleg is getting something going, although I don't have any details yet. I suggest that if you want to keep the TFL family together, post your interest on this thread, and I'll e-mail Oleg to ask him to respond to us all when things get firmed up a little. Thank you all VERY much for the support! God bless.

December 18, 2002, 03:13 PM	#16
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Yes, I'm interested in any new boards starting up. I'm also over at www.familyfriendsfirearms.com __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

December 18, 2002, 03:29 PM	#17
Seeker Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2001 Location: Lacomb, Oregon Posts: 1,393	Just checked in at gun talk. They have a flashing banner that says "Welcome T F L Members" I predict their membership grows , they have added 13 members since I joined. __________________ Molon Labe Seeker "The oppressed should rebel, and they will continue to rebel and raise disturbance until their civil rights are fully restored to them and all partial distinctions, exclusions and incapacitations are removed." --Thomas Jefferson Don't Tread On Me! "Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political; peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none" -- Thomas Jefferson In order to rally people, governments need enemies. They want us to be afraid, to hate, so we will rally behind them. And if they do not have a real enemy, they will invent one in order to mobilize us. -Thich Nhat Hanh

December 18, 2002, 03:35 PM	#18
johnr Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 695	Oleg, I am certainly interested- kindly drop me a line when something gels. JR __________________ Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...

December 18, 2002, 03:37 PM	#19
Zak Smith Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 1999 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA Posts: 2,682	I'm very interested in the new "allied forum" that Oleg is allegedly getting going. -z

December 18, 2002, 03:39 PM	#21
Legionnaire Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2000 Location: Central TX Posts: 1,503	Oleg, keep us posted. Moving to gun-talk in the interim. __________________ Cogito, ergo armatus sum.

December 18, 2002, 04:21 PM	#22
ajaxinacan Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2000 Location: New Mexico Posts: 436	Please don't forget http://www.thearmedcitizen.net It's a cozy little site, with ground rules very similar to TFL. Welcome all. __________________ When the going gets tough, sprinters quit.

December 18, 2002, 04:41 PM	#23
Gila Jorge Member Join Date: November 21, 2002 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 91	Oleg and Preacherman: count me in...also willing to subscribe...Blessings.

December 18, 2002, 07:29 PM	#24
MarineTech Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2002 Location: Southern Maine US Posts: 299	Oleg, Another volunteer for a subscription site. I'm willing to pony up for the cause and assist in any other way that I can. __________________ Morituri Nolumus Mori - We who are about to die, don't want to. -